Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 8/23/05 10:25 PM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: i just downloaded the accessibar at the mozdev web site. it's got a built in reader; so if you have speakers or a headset you can hear how accessible your page is in a reader. it's not superior quality audio, but it

Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread dwain alford
Rick Faaberg wrote: On 8/23/05 10:25 PM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: i just downloaded the accessibar at the mozdev web site. it's got a built in reader; so if you have speakers or a headset you can hear how accessible your page is in a reader. it's not superior quality

Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 8/23/05 11:42 PM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Is there some way to install and execute on Mac OSX? Anybody has done it? i would assume so, it's a browser extension, so it should function on mac osx. I would assume that also, but the installation complained greatly

Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities

2005-08-24 Thread Geoff Deering
Stuart Sherwood wrote: Are any of the validation tools: Bobby, Cynthiasays, Watchfire...more respected then the others? Regards, Stuart. You can use any of these, and all of them, but you should combine them with your own knowledge base and common sense. I also use Marc Gueury's HTML

[WSG] body onload=blah not working in Mac IE 5.2, any suggestions?

2005-08-24 Thread Bennie, Jack
Title: body onload=blah not working in Mac IE 5.2, any suggestions? Hey Guys Got a problem, which only occurs in IE Mac 5.2, with using the onload function in an HTML BODY tag, any suggestions how I might be able to get around it? html head titlerandom Masthead background/title meta

[WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Bennie, Jack
Title: Randomly load images into the background-image selector... Does anyone know any neat code [JScript/CSS - not PHP] that can randomly load a selection of images into the 'background-image' selector? TY in advance Regards Jack Bennie Web Developer - Web Services WorkCover NSW

Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread Joshua Street
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 01:42 -0500, dwain alford wrote: Rick Faaberg wrote: it's a browser extension, so it should function on mac osx. Actually, it's probably using Windows' built in text-to-speech for rendering audio, so possibly not. Kind Regards, Joshua Street base10solutions Website:

RE: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread Patrick Lauke
Joshua Street Actually, it's probably using Windows' built in text-to-speech for rendering audio, so possibly not. Actually, it's using a java text-to-speech engine, so it's cross platform as long as you have a working JRE (although these things can often be very fickle with regards to what

RE: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread Joshua Street
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 12:01 +0100, Patrick Lauke wrote: Joshua Street Actually, it's probably using Windows' built in text-to-speech for rendering audio, so possibly not. Actually, it's using a java text-to-speech engine, so it's cross platform as long as you have a working JRE

[WSG] Nice plug-in for FireFox - Html Validator

2005-08-24 Thread Jacobus van Niekerk
Thought I just share this nice plug-in for FireFox, with everyone, helped me a lot with validating websites. It's based on HTMLTidy. https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=249 Kind Regards Jacobus van Niekerk Creative Consultant web:

Re: [WSG] Nice plug-in for FireFox - Html Validator

2005-08-24 Thread alejandro poch
Hi list You should try asswell the Opera browser 8. Ctrl + Alt V and you validate the web you're in on the W3C validator, even if the page is on locate server. It helps a lot! Regards jandropoch Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Thought I just share this nice plug-in for FireFox, with everyone,

[WSG] cross-cultural (Asia/US) usability differences

2005-08-24 Thread Vicki Berry
This article: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,68626,00.html says Asians notice more background detail than folks from the U.S. Have others found this to be true? I'd be interested in the implications of this, assuming it's true. The web is global, so where does that leave us? And

Re: [WSG] body onload=blah not working in Mac IE 5.2, any suggestions?

2005-08-24 Thread Ben Curtis
On Aug 24, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Bennie, Jack wrote: Got a problem, which only occurs in IE Mac 5.2, with using the onload function in an HTML BODY tag, any suggestions how I might be able to get around it? I suspect your Mac IE is firing the onload just fine, but the value you give to it

Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread dwain alford
Rick Faaberg wrote: I would assume that also, but the installation complained greatly about my Java environment and then I had to abort installation. that's interesting, especially if you have the latest java environment. i think there is a link to contact the owner of the project on one

Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread dwain alford
Joshua Street wrote: As an aside, I imagine this text-to-speech engine would only be a component of Sun's JRE? Are any other JREs in use on mainstream platforms, so far as people are aware? The other pertinent question would be what versions introduced this functionality, as alluded to in

Re: [WSG] Can this function be duplicated using CSS

2005-08-24 Thread Ben Curtis
On Aug 24, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Jeff wrote: http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/05bikes/cls/05_cls_01.html The scrolling section...can this feature/function be duplicated using nothing but CSS? The entire scroll effect, the links and targets, etc. If it could, it wouldn't be a good thing

RE: [WSG] Can this function be duplicated using CSS

2005-08-24 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Jeff The answer/question is not whether this can be done with CSS, but rather can it be done with standards-based design. CSS defines the presentation of a page and not the behavior. Your example is using a hover activity to cause a section to scroll. This would be better done with DOM

[WSG] Image Drop Caps

2005-08-24 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, I glued this rule together after deciding I didn't want in inline image for a drop cap. Does this violate any coding practices? div#content-primary span#drop_b{ float: left; width: 1.25em; height: 1.25em; font-size: 4em; line-height: 83%; text-indent: -px;

Re: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 24 Aug 2005, at 6:47 PM, Bennie, Jack wrote: Does anyone know any neat code [JScript/CSS - not PHP] that can randomly load a selection of images into the 'background-image' selector? Which makes me wonder - will a browser call and execute javascript if it's contained within, or linked

Re: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Nick Gleitzman wrote: On 24 Aug 2005, at 6:47 PM, Bennie, Jack wrote: Does anyone know any neat code [JScript/CSS - not PHP] that can randomly load a selection of images into the 'background-image' selector? Which makes me wonder - will a browser call and execute javascript if it's

Re: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Paul Novitski
For IE only, you can use Microsoft's proprietary expression extension to execute JavaScript from the stylesheet, e.g.: div#header { width: expression(window.clientWidth / 2); } Use of expression() is currently* an IE-only filter, e.g.: div#blob

Re: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On 8/24/05, Bennie, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know any neat code [JScript/CSS - not PHP] that can randomly load a selection of images into the 'background-image' selector? Should be simple. Merely dig up any decent image fade script and replace the 'image swap' with this:

RE: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities

2005-08-24 Thread Focas, Grant
In my opinion WatchfireXM is a terrible product - it considers perfectly valid things to be problems, has misleading documentation and is not very intuitive. DreamweaverMX has a good but not completely thorough accessibility checking feature. Online tools will only check one page at a time.

Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox

2005-08-24 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 8/24/05 9:55 AM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Rick Faaberg wrote: I would assume that also, but the installation complained greatly about my Java environment and then I had to abort installation. that's interesting, especially if you have the latest java environment.

Re: [WSG] weird three menu on IE 5

2005-08-24 Thread setiawan77th
http://embun.net http://embun.net/ http://embun.net/style/style_black.css http://embun.net/script/script.js dear all... sorry if I'm not describing the problem.. told that I have put the link.. :) In mozzila.. vertical menu space between other are fine.. but in IE it look more space for

Re: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Aaaah, I over thought the situation -- I thought you wanted to *fade* between the images, not just choose one at random... Here you go :) html head script function randomBG(targetObjID) { var obj, imgs, randNum; obj = document.getElementById(targetObjID); imgs = new

RE: [WSG] Randomly load images into the background-image selector...

2005-08-24 Thread Ryan Blunden
Hey Andrew, I'd like to see a script that does that! Have fun digging. Regards, Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Krespanis Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2005 11:21 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Randomly load

[WSG] another 'open new window' dilemma

2005-08-24 Thread tee
Hi accessible care takers, I know open new window even for external site is no good and have put it in practise for most sites I have done, however I am kind of stuck on a site that has over 100 links to external sites. My client, understands no accessible issues however she was willing

Re: [WSG] another 'open new window' dilemma

2005-08-24 Thread Terrence Wood
You can suggest some user testing and run an A/B test (no new windows/new windows) on the same design and see what the actual user preference is instead of relying on assumptions. Alternatively, you could provide a prefernce link somewhere on the page that set's a cookie and writes the page