RE: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread Michael MD
> http://rahulgonsalves.com/research/site/ > > I'm throwing together a quick site to try and fund my travel to an > accessibility conference. I haven't had too much time to check it, or > think it through, but I would appreciate a page check, and general > suggestions/comments. Also, I don't hav

[WSG] SIte Maps?

2007-11-18 Thread Designer
I have never done a site map/index. I have Googled, but the results seem complicated, at least for a newcomer to site maps. I want to provide a way for visitor to a site to get where they want easily. Of course, the basic structure of the site is key, but when, e.g., there is a link to an obscu

Re: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread James Jeffery
On Nov 18, 2007 1:19 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Jeffery wrote: > >> Not every anchor needs extra advisory information, so I don't see an > >> issue here. > > > > The title attribute is optional, but a title can help to clearly and > > accurately describe a link and for

RE: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread Steve Green
People with assistive technologies rarely benefit from 'title' attributes. They are not displayed by text browsers, they are not accessible using keyboard navigation (or devices that emulate keyboards) and they are not read by screen readers with default settings. They are only accessible to someon

Re: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread James Jeffery
[quote cite="http://juicystudio.com/article/using-title-attribute.php";] Values of the title attribute may be rendered by user agents in a variety of ways. For instance, visual browsers frequently display the title as a "tool tip" (a short message that appears when the pointing device pauses over a

RE: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread Steve Green
"If a user wants to magnify the screen there are alternative methods for making link text bigger" People don't spend hundreds of pounds on magnifiers to do something that any browser can do. Most sites would break horribly if you increased the text to even 4x its normal size, and many people run m

Re: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
James Jeffery wrote: Some do, some don't. I would rather provide to those that do and give the disabled a greater benifit for those that make use of the title attribute. Link text should make sense to *everybody*. If they don't, don't just fix it for the "poor disabled users", fix it for ever

Re: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread James Jeffery
I see where you are coming from, in a way. It seems that there is a problem, not with developers, but with accessibility overall if there is no way to provide additional information for link text. Anchor text such as "The Future" or "Our Projects" may be intended, but to the average user they can

Re: [WSG] AccessResearch // Page Check

2007-11-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
James Jeffery wrote: Anchor text such as "The Future" or "Our Projects" may be intended, but to the average user they can scan the page quickly and get an idea about what "The Future" is relating to. If they're written and constructed well, even completely blind users with screen readers can