Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Nick Cowie
Hi It is the State Library of WA. Looking further into our stats, over one third of our visitors come from the 80 public access machines around the building, which accounts for the heavy bias of IE7 on windows. Making these stats unrepresentative, sorry I did not expect that many when I start

Re: [WSG] Javascript Accessibility

2009-03-03 Thread Matt Morgan-May
As someone who's on the working group producing ARIA, I have to say the editors have done a pretty remarkable job in terms of documenting a specification that hasn't even advanced past Working Draft. First, there's the spec itself: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/ Then there's the User Agent

Re: [WSG] The notion of accessibility [was: Javascript Accessibility]

2009-03-03 Thread Steven Faulkner
HI Mathew So now a slight rant... I dont understand how: span role=aria-checkbox is better than: input type=checkbox ... ? 3 points 1. The ARIA spec recommends the use of native semantics where ever possible: Use native markup when possible. Use the semantic elements that are

RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Kear
In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. All I was saying is it's the first time I've seen IE as not the top

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats.

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread William Donovan
You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing? I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves of my bias. William Donovan mobile: 0403 263 284 2009/3/3 Mike Kear

RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Foskett, Mike
Tesco's (a major UK online retailer) stats concur with Matt's results within 1%. mike From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Sent: 03 March 2009 11:52 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

[WSG] Accessible popup help

2009-03-03 Thread ClareLewis
Hi there, We have hidden divs (popup help) on a page that are shown either by onClick or onMouseOver. When the div is shown, Jaws will not read the contents, any ideas on how to get it to work without users having to disable JS? Also does anyone have any good examples of pop up help? Thanks

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread William Donovan
I use a couple of sources but here are my best 2: This one uses 6 different sources to build it's list http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm And W3C Schools: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Lets not forget thought that Mike is sampling his site. Like the W3C Schools

Re: [WSG] Accessible popup help

2009-03-03 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi Clare, Please see if this, or any part of it will be of help: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/accessible-context-sensitive-help-with-u/ There are two formats described with working examples and code samples. Hope this may be of help. Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread kevin_erickson
That is fine with me. I always test it with new designs along with IE5.5 6 7, Opera, Firefox ans Safari. I have to do all of these tests on Ms Vista although I would love to one day have a Mac as well. Sent from my Centro Wireless Device. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear

RE: [WSG] Accessible popup help

2009-03-03 Thread Foskett, Mike
Take a look at this method: http://websemantics.co.uk/resources/accessible_ajax_glossary/ An AJAX method which embeds the help into the page upon demand. Alternatively: http://direct.tesco.com/homepage/furniture.aspx Click on Spare parts or Customer services. With JS you get a pop-up, without

RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Kear
Enough people have told me their figures are completely different to mine, but I don't much care about that. The point is the same - while IE is no longer the towering majority in the web browser wars, we have a fighting chance of bringing sanity to browsers. If IE7 became the 80%-90% browser

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, William Donovan donovan.will...@gmail.comwrote: You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing? I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean

RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Kear
As I said I hardly ever browse the production site. It's hardly worth the effort.Out of the 54,000 page views in the figures I was quoting earlier, my own browsing would account for maybe 50 . Hardly more than that - I do my development off line using my own dev server, then only check a

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Al Sparber
From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com Hi It is the State Library of WA. Looking further into our stats, over one third of our visitors come from the 80 public access machines around the building, which accounts for the heavy bias of IE7 on windows. Making these stats unrepresentative, sorry

Re: [WSG] Accessible popup help

2009-03-03 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
HereĀ¹s a couple (well, 3) links to creating accessible popups to check out: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html The ever-popular Lightbox - http://www.lokeshdhakar.com/projects/lightbox2/ And from Accessify - http://accessify.com/features/tutorials/the-perfect-popup/ Cheers

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2009-03-03 Thread info
I am currently out of the office running a training course returning the morning of the 04/03/2009. For technical assitance please contact Anthony Johnston - anthony.johns...@spotlessdesign.com I will have limited access to email but will try to respond to your enquiry. If your enquiry is