Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread Sam Sherlock
MS is on board but for vista & windows 7 users only So ie pre ie9 is still going to be out there; I think that ie9 should be released as an xp version also the other browsers all make versions that work for xp and support html5; though though some things would only work on ie9 (pinning tasks) mi

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 29/09/2010 09:59, Sam Sherlock wrote: So ie pre ie9 is still going to be out there; I think that ie9 should be released as an xp version also the other browsers all make versions that work for xp and support html5; though though some things would only work on ie9 (pinning tasks) let's not g

Re: [WSG] CSS support of HTML5 tags not ready yet?

2010-09-29 Thread Oliver Boermans
I don't have any personal experience with this stuff but your discussion rereminded me of a page I bookmarked recently: http://jdbartlett.github.com/innershiv/ Sorry if it is not relevant, have not read the whole thread in detail. Hope it helps! -- Cheers Ollie @ollicle On Wednesday, September 2

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread cat soul
On Sep 29, 2010, at 1:59 AM, Sam Sherlock wrote: MS is on board but for vista & windows 7 users only Quite true. All for-profit companies are in things for themselves. No news flash there. But if I could tease out the original purpose of my question once more, it'd be to say that Flash

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread Jason Arnold
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:06 AM, cat soul wrote: >Flash offers a one-stop shopping > tool, and as has been said, most/many people have the flash plug-in, so > playback is more or less assured across the intertoobs. Except when dealing with the Mobile market where Flash isn't universal and if you

Re: [WSG] CSS support of HTML5 tags not ready yet?

2010-09-29 Thread Rob Crowther
Oliver Boermans wrote: I don't have any personal experience with this stuff but your discussion rereminded me of a page I bookmarked recently: http://jdbartlett.github.com/innershiv/ Yep, that looks like the root of the problem: "doesn't work in Internet Explorer when an element's content is ad

RE: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread Foskett, Mike
Strange, My answer would've been not yet. Too many differences in supported video codecs cross-browser. A bit of a mare in production unless you've a transcoding service on your media server. For the maximum audience: Flash 8 preferably (9 if full screen is a requirement), ON2 VP6 Codec, with H

Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash

2010-09-29 Thread Sam Sherlock
@patrick yes pinning tasks is an example of what does not need to be done - flourish added by microsoft for extra flare :) - bet that was the result of some blue sky idea in some board room / focus group; more reason for ie 9ish being on xp (50% users) @mike some of the eloquence/stats I was looki