RE: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
Funny this should come up as I felt like being fussy a couple of weeks ago. If you happen to be building a site with dotNet (.NET) 2008 you can override the server MIME type inline by adding the following to the @Page directive: contenttype="application/xhtml+xml" This comes in handy if you have a mobile site living in the same directory as your regular site. I know this may not help you, Kevin, but maybe it will help someone...someday. :-) Michael "Spell" Spellacy http://www.spellacy.net @spellacy > I am hoping someone can help me with a MIME for mobile sites problem I am having. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
I agree that serving XHTML with the text/html MIME type isn't a cardinal sin. Also, as ever, you need to work around IE which offers a download dialogue when given the (correct) application/xhtml+xml MIME type. The good news is that IE9 /will/ support the XHTML MIME type (as well as SVG and more) so we might yet live in a world where cross-browser issues can be less dominant in developers' minds. When devising the mobileOK tests (as implemented by mobiready and our own mobileOK checker http://validator.w3.org/mobile/) we wanted it to be possible to pass without scripting and/or server config. You'll get warnings, but not a fail condition. HTH Phil. Andrew Harris wrote: Well, well, well, you learn something new every day eh? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, wrote: Just cancel on the login but load the page into the test site please to see the results. I still couldn't get into a page, but it doesn't matter - I think I see the problem. According to dot-mobi: "For XHTML-MP, the recommended MIME type is application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml or application/xhtml+xml. Unlike HTML, XHTML-MP should not be served as text/html." Consequently the mobile site I maintain at: http://m.unimelb.edu.au also generates a warning. On the other hand, I get the feeling it's pretty much an 'edge case' as far as failure goes. Serving as text/html isn't going to break many browsers. I suspect only most primitive wap only browsers will fail to load the content. If you look at dot-mobi's little graph, it indicates that such browsers are likely to be on mobiles greater than 5 years old - pretty minor stuff given that, if you're anything like our site, more than 95% of your mobile traffic is going to be from Apple devices. However, there's nothing wrong with being fussy, so getting you server to use the correct MIME type will require you either getting into the apache.conf file or using .htaccess to set the mime type for the file extensions you're using. This can get tricky and will break things if you don't know what you're doing. (I don't!) In my case - using the MySource Matrix CMS, it's just a matter of adding a line to the beginning of my mobile template, if you are running a CMS you may have a similar setting. I'm going to leave that until Monday when I've got time to back out of it if it causes problems :-) -- Phil Archer W3C Open Media Web http://www.w3.org/ http://philarcher.org @philarcher1 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
Well, well, well, you learn something new every day eh? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, wrote: > Just cancel on the login but load the page into the test site please to see > the results. I still couldn't get into a page, but it doesn't matter - I think I see the problem. According to dot-mobi: "For XHTML-MP, the recommended MIME type is application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml or application/xhtml+xml. Unlike HTML, XHTML-MP should not be served as text/html." Consequently the mobile site I maintain at: http://m.unimelb.edu.au also generates a warning. On the other hand, I get the feeling it's pretty much an 'edge case' as far as failure goes. Serving as text/html isn't going to break many browsers. I suspect only most primitive wap only browsers will fail to load the content. If you look at dot-mobi's little graph, it indicates that such browsers are likely to be on mobiles greater than 5 years old - pretty minor stuff given that, if you're anything like our site, more than 95% of your mobile traffic is going to be from Apple devices. However, there's nothing wrong with being fussy, so getting you server to use the correct MIME type will require you either getting into the apache.conf file or using .htaccess to set the mime type for the file extensions you're using. This can get tricky and will break things if you don't know what you're doing. (I don't!) In my case - using the MySource Matrix CMS, it's just a matter of adding a line to the beginning of my mobile template, if you are running a CMS you may have a similar setting. I'm going to leave that until Monday when I've got time to back out of it if it causes problems :-) -- Andrew Harris and...@woowoowoo.com http://www.woowoowoo.com ~~~ <*>< ~~~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
Just cancel on the login but load the page into the test site please to see the results. Thanks Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Phil Archer Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:25:44 To: Subject: Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test Kevin, That's a password protected page so I can't see it. Not sure what you man by the 'Mobile MIME type'. Can you elaborate please? Phil. Kevin Erickson wrote: > Hello all, > I am hoping someone can help me with a MIME for mobile sites problem I am > having. I have a page, > http://devel.virginiainteractive.org/demo/portalredesign2010/mobile/mobile_p > ages/, that will not pass the test for mobile MIME type using the > http://mobiready.com/launch.jsp mobile site tester. I have tested other big > brand mobile sites for government and commercial and none seem to pass this > either. Can someone please advise? > > Thank you very much, > Kevin > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > > -- Phil Archer W3C Open Media Web http://www.w3.org/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)1473 434770 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
Sorry. Meant to say hit CANCEL button and you should be able to see it. Thanks Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Phil Archer Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:25:44 To: Subject: Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test Kevin, That's a password protected page so I can't see it. Not sure what you man by the 'Mobile MIME type'. Can you elaborate please? Phil. Kevin Erickson wrote: > Hello all, > I am hoping someone can help me with a MIME for mobile sites problem I am > having. I have a page, > http://devel.virginiainteractive.org/demo/portalredesign2010/mobile/mobile_p > ages/, that will not pass the test for mobile MIME type using the > http://mobiready.com/launch.jsp mobile site tester. I have tested other big > brand mobile sites for government and commercial and none seem to pass this > either. Can someone please advise? > > Thank you very much, > Kevin > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > > -- Phil Archer W3C Open Media Web http://www.w3.org/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)1473 434770 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
Kevin, That's a password protected page so I can't see it. Not sure what you man by the 'Mobile MIME type'. Can you elaborate please? Phil. Kevin Erickson wrote: Hello all, I am hoping someone can help me with a MIME for mobile sites problem I am having. I have a page, http://devel.virginiainteractive.org/demo/portalredesign2010/mobile/mobile_p ages/, that will not pass the test for mobile MIME type using the http://mobiready.com/launch.jsp mobile site tester. I have tested other big brand mobile sites for government and commercial and none seem to pass this either. Can someone please advise? Thank you very much, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Phil Archer W3C Open Media Web http://www.w3.org/ http://philarcher.org +44 (0)1473 434770 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Help with mobile MIME type always fails test
Hello all, I am hoping someone can help me with a MIME for mobile sites problem I am having. I have a page, http://devel.virginiainteractive.org/demo/portalredesign2010/mobile/mobile_p ages/, that will not pass the test for mobile MIME type using the http://mobiready.com/launch.jsp mobile site tester. I have tested other big brand mobile sites for government and commercial and none seem to pass this either. Can someone please advise? Thank you very much, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
