Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
On 04/07/07, Brian Cummiskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Meta tags are all but depreciated at this point. That's a bold - and largely incorrect - statement. Perhaps the META tags that were covered in most Beginning HTML type books a few years ago aren't needed any more (although description is still used by Google, content-type can be useful, robots is needed to refuse entry to bots - it's really only the keywords meta tag that is pointless now), but meta tags are still needed for applying stuff like Dublin Core metadata. -- Matthew Pennell // m: 07904 432123 // www.thewatchmakerproject.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
No all meta tags are depreciated, and i cant see them being either, google still uses the meta=description , as also bruce has pointed out. Regards On 7/4/07, Bruce Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 19:04 -0400, Brian Cummiskey wrote: Joyce Evans wrote: Is it important to include the following as part of the meta tags on web pages? meta name=robots content=index,follow No. Meta tags are all but depreciated at this point. he only common one still being used is the langauge/charset type. Most possibly getting off topic but meta name=description content =meta description here / WILL be used by google for the description under the title in search results. Cheers Bruce -- Bruce Morrison Solution Architect designIT Pty Ltd Website Content Management Specialists *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
James Jeffery wrote: No all meta tags are depreciated, and i cant see them being either, google still uses the meta=description , as also bruce has pointed out. Not to pick on you, James, because Bruce already used it, but the word is deprecated not depreciated. And before someone picks on me for being a spelling-nazi, the words have significantly different meanings, and it's important to use the right one. Regards Mark Harris *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
Sorry, that was a type error, sometimes i wizz so fast on the keyboard i miss keys and hit extra keys, must be my fat fingers. Depreciated means to lessen the value, and the value of meta tags has gone down hill from the days when they got abused to boost page rankings, but its not going to be cut from HTML because the HTML 5 Working Draft have included it in the manual. It still gets used across the internet, and in the future there may be even more reason to use it, who knows. On 7/4/07, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Jul 2007, at 10:42, Mark Harris wrote: Not to pick on you, James, because Bruce already used it, but the word is deprecated not depreciated. And before someone picks on me for being a spelling-nazi, the words have significantly different meanings, and it's important to use the right one. Well. Meta tags are depreciated too - their value has been reduced from 'some' to 'almost nothing'. ;) -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
Although meta tags are depreciated, I was reading yesterday, you can still include meta information for specific spiders, like only telling yahoo spiders to go away On 7/4/07, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, that was a type error, sometimes i wizz so fast on the keyboard i miss keys and hit extra keys, must be my fat fingers. Depreciated means to lessen the value, and the value of meta tags has gone down hill from the days when they got abused to boost page rankings, but its not going to be cut from HTML because the HTML 5 Working Draft have included it in the manual. It still gets used across the internet, and in the future there may be even more reason to use it, who knows. On 7/4/07, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Jul 2007, at 10:42, Mark Harris wrote: Not to pick on you, James, because Bruce already used it, but the word is deprecated not depreciated. And before someone picks on me for being a spelling-nazi, the words have significantly different meanings, and it's important to use the right one. Well. Meta tags are depreciated too - their value has been reduced from 'some' to 'almost nothing'. ;) -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
Although meta tags are depreciated, I was reading yesterday, you can still include meta information for specific spiders, like only telling yahoo spiders to go away I think Google and Yahoo also see rel=nofollow on links (to prevent the link from being counted for a page's ranking - such as for user posts where people might try to post link spam) http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html but I don't think that stops the pages from being indexed *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
Hi Mark On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 21:42 +1200, Mark Harris wrote: James Jeffery wrote: No all meta tags are depreciated, and i cant see them being either, google still uses the meta=description , as also bruce has pointed out. Not to pick on you, James, because Bruce already used it, but the word is deprecated not depreciated. Actually I didn't use the word at all in my post. And before someone picks on me for being a spelling-nazi, the words have significantly different meanings, and it's important to use the right one. Thanks for pointing out the difference, was a new one to me. I actually think that in the context that meta tags have depreciated (lost value over time) in a SEO sense. I'd tend to see deprecated as a more technical term and as far as I know meta tags have not been marked as deprecated in current specifications. Anyway English is not my favourite subject but if you'd like to debate it further lets do it off list. Cheers Bruce -- Bruce Morrison Solution Architect designIT Pty Ltd Website Content Management Specialists *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Robot meta tags
I'm new to this group, so if this discussion has occurred in the past, I'm not aware of it. Is it important to include the following as part of the meta tags on web pages? meta name=robots content=index,follow Joyce *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:45:26 -0500, Joyce Evans wrote: Is it important to include the following as part of the meta tags on web pages? meta name=robots content=index,follow No. 'index' and 'follow' are the default values for the robots meta - any robot will assume these values if there is no robots meta element on the page. You only need to include them if you are resetting them to eg 'noindex' or 'nofollow', etc. Of course, it isn't *wrong* to include them, just redundant. warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane, Australia *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 19:04 -0400, Brian Cummiskey wrote: Joyce Evans wrote: Is it important to include the following as part of the meta tags on web pages? meta name=robots content=index,follow No. Meta tags are all but depreciated at this point. he only common one still being used is the langauge/charset type. Most possibly getting off topic but meta name=description content =meta description here / WILL be used by google for the description under the title in search results. Cheers Bruce -- Bruce Morrison Solution Architect designIT Pty Ltd Website Content Management Specialists *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
