Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Chris Kennon

Hi,

Butterfly.com looks good in Safari 2.0.1, Firefox 1.5.1 Beta, Opera  
8.0.2


nav_bar shifts to the left in IE 5.2 in the mac.




On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:


http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/

I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on  
the Mac

side...

Thanks,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

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Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Paul Dwyer
Looks good on FF, OS10.3.9

The menu tab slides away when the window is resized too small, but it
is not likely people will go as far as I did.

Love the content!

pd

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 http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/
 
 I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac
 side...
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread David Laakso

Thierry Koblentz wrote:


http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/

I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac
side...

Thanks,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com


 


XP_SP2 IE/Moz/FF/Opera
It is an attractive and aesthetically pleasing site, Thierry. The two 
butterflies hitting the right viewport is a nice touch.

That, said-- here comes the nit-picking:
-- Extremely difficult to read the content text. There is just not 
enough contrast.
-- The off-red color and the underlined links punch holes in and rip and 
tear the fabric of the text.
-- The page is not working as well as I think you may want at 800 in any 
of my browsers. The viewport edge butterflies get chopped, difficulty 
with a  sidebar in place, and a slight h-scroll bar in FF.

There are some Safari, Mac/IE5.2, Win/2000, and XP screen captures here:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=191185
Best,
~dL



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RE: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Thierry

If were gonna git nitpicky.
I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart:

tr valign=top class=altRowOdd 
tdinput name=lineID2 type=hidden value=59 /
label for=qty2a href=details.asp?prodID=72Marbled White/a
(023-BAXS)/label
br / 
raquo; Color: Black
br / 
raquo; Size: X-Small
/td 
td class=aligncenter$75.00/td 
td class=aligncenterinput id=qty2 name=qty2 type=text value=1
size=3 onblur=cleanField(this) //td 
td class=alignright$75.00/td 
td class=aligncenter input name=remove type=checkbox
class=formCheckbox value=59 //td 
/tr

To:

tr (alternating row class inserted with js) 
td class=colproduct
ul
liinput name=lineID2 type=hidden value=59 / 
label for=qty2a href=details.asp?prodID=72Marbled White/a
(023-BAXS)/label/li
liColor: Black/li
liSize: X-Small/li
/ul
/td 
td $75.00/td 
td class=colquantityinput id=qty2 name=qty2 type=text value=1
size=3 onblur=cleanField(this) //td 
td class=coltotal$75.00/td 
td class=colremove input name=remove type=checkbox
class=formCheckbox value=59 //td 
/tr


Use CSS to define the alignment on the cells, use an unordered list instead
of br tags.

I like the even/odd rows for tables and divs in this page and the product
page.  If you are not already using the zebraAll.js script from list member
Patrick Lauke, give him a holler. It handles the striping of divs, tables,
lists, and more from one script. I've been using it and absolutely love it.


Will you be releasing this as a package soon? E-commerce forms are a dime a
dozen but there is so little out there that is as well thought-out as this.

Nice work.

Ted




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Thierry Koblentz wrote:

http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/

I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac
side...

Thanks,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com


  
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Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Ted,

 If were gonna git nitpicky.
 I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart:

Ouch! I guess I still have more work to do then :)
I've started with a commercial (shopping cart) package.
Out of the box, the markup doesn't validate, tables are all over the place,
deprecated markup, bunch of anchors not in list items, divitis, classitis,
no accessibility features, etc.
I've cleaned up most of it, but obviously I missed a few things... Not easy
to go through the markup inside *lines* of ASP scripts, I did *not* even see
the event handler in there ;)
(the Admin section shows the type of markup the original SS-Scripts
generate).

 I like the even/odd rows for tables and divs in this page and the
 product page.  If you are not already using the zebraAll.js script
 from list member Patrick Lauke, give him a holler. It handles the
 striping of divs, tables, lists, and more from one script. I've been
 using it and absolutely love it.

I prefer to do that Server-Side, but I'll take a look at the JS solution,
thanks for the pointer.

 Will you be releasing this as a package soon? E-commerce forms are a

Since it is based on a commercial product, I don't think the license allows
me to *resell* it as a package. Even it is *very far* from the original
product. ;-(

 dime a dozen but there is so little out there that is as well
 thought-out as this.
 Nice work.

Thanks,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

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Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Drake, Ted C.  wrote:
 If were gonna git nitpicky.
 I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart:

I was going to change the markup as you suggested, but then I thought that a
list may not be the correct markup for this. Because it would suggest that
there are 3 different items when in fact it is one single item followed by
options related to it.
Don't you think this:
Product Name (Reference), Color: Black, Size: X-Small
makes more sense than:
- Product Name (Reference)
- Color: Black
- Size: X-Small

In the markup, BRs are just used in lieu of the , to make the content of
the cell more legible.

Best,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

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Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Chris Kennon

A standards Compliant e-solution for future reference:

(http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/)

C
On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:


Hi Ted,



If were gonna git nitpicky.
I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart:



Ouch! I guess I still have more work to do then :)
I've started with a commercial (shopping cart) package.
Out of the box, the markup doesn't validate, tables are all over  
the place,
deprecated markup, bunch of anchors not in list items, divitis,  
classitis,

no accessibility features, etc.
I've cleaned up most of it, but obviously I missed a few things...  
Not easy
to go through the markup inside *lines* of ASP scripts, I did *not*  
even see

the event handler in there ;)
(the Admin section shows the type of markup the original SS-Scripts
generate).



I like the even/odd rows for tables and divs in this page and the
product page.  If you are not already using the zebraAll.js script
from list member Patrick Lauke, give him a holler. It handles the
striping of divs, tables, lists, and more from one script. I've been
using it and absolutely love it.



I prefer to do that Server-Side, but I'll take a look at the JS  
solution,

thanks for the pointer.



Will you be releasing this as a package soon? E-commerce forms are a



Since it is based on a commercial product, I don't think the  
license allows
me to *resell* it as a package. Even it is *very far* from the  
original

product. ;-(



dime a dozen but there is so little out there that is as well
thought-out as this.
Nice work.



Thanks,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

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Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)

2005-09-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Drake, Ted C.  wrote:
 I like using definition lists over paragraphs for their inherit
 structure and the hooks they provide for CSS.
 Do you see any reasons to not use a dl?

I like DLs too ;)
I have 2 or 3 in this site already. But here I don't think it would be the
correct markup.
Beside that, server-side, it would create a loop inside another loop, not
what I'm really after...

 This is probably making several people on the list grab their
 forehead and scream ... who cres!

;)

Best,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

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