Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Hi, Butterfly.com looks good in Safari 2.0.1, Firefox 1.5.1 Beta, Opera 8.0.2 nav_bar shifts to the left in IE 5.2 in the mac. On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:51 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/ I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac side... Thanks, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Looks good on FF, OS10.3.9 The menu tab slides away when the window is resized too small, but it is not likely people will go as far as I did. Love the content! pd On 9/15/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/ I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac side... Thanks, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/ I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac side... Thanks, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com XP_SP2 IE/Moz/FF/Opera It is an attractive and aesthetically pleasing site, Thierry. The two butterflies hitting the right viewport is a nice touch. That, said-- here comes the nit-picking: -- Extremely difficult to read the content text. There is just not enough contrast. -- The off-red color and the underlined links punch holes in and rip and tear the fabric of the text. -- The page is not working as well as I think you may want at 800 in any of my browsers. The viewport edge butterflies get chopped, difficulty with a sidebar in place, and a slight h-scroll bar in FF. There are some Safari, Mac/IE5.2, Win/2000, and XP screen captures here: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=191185 Best, ~dL -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Hi Thierry If were gonna git nitpicky. I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart: tr valign=top class=altRowOdd tdinput name=lineID2 type=hidden value=59 / label for=qty2a href=details.asp?prodID=72Marbled White/a (023-BAXS)/label br / raquo; Color: Black br / raquo; Size: X-Small /td td class=aligncenter$75.00/td td class=aligncenterinput id=qty2 name=qty2 type=text value=1 size=3 onblur=cleanField(this) //td td class=alignright$75.00/td td class=aligncenter input name=remove type=checkbox class=formCheckbox value=59 //td /tr To: tr (alternating row class inserted with js) td class=colproduct ul liinput name=lineID2 type=hidden value=59 / label for=qty2a href=details.asp?prodID=72Marbled White/a (023-BAXS)/label/li liColor: Black/li liSize: X-Small/li /ul /td td $75.00/td td class=colquantityinput id=qty2 name=qty2 type=text value=1 size=3 onblur=cleanField(this) //td td class=coltotal$75.00/td td class=colremove input name=remove type=checkbox class=formCheckbox value=59 //td /tr Use CSS to define the alignment on the cells, use an unordered list instead of br tags. I like the even/odd rows for tables and divs in this page and the product page. If you are not already using the zebraAll.js script from list member Patrick Lauke, give him a holler. It handles the striping of divs, tables, lists, and more from one script. I've been using it and absolutely love it. Will you be releasing this as a package soon? E-commerce forms are a dime a dozen but there is so little out there that is as well thought-out as this. Nice work. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:44 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore) Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.tjkdesign.com/eStore/ I've put it through a few browsers on PC, but I'm pretty limited on the Mac side... Thanks, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Hi Ted, If were gonna git nitpicky. I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart: Ouch! I guess I still have more work to do then :) I've started with a commercial (shopping cart) package. Out of the box, the markup doesn't validate, tables are all over the place, deprecated markup, bunch of anchors not in list items, divitis, classitis, no accessibility features, etc. I've cleaned up most of it, but obviously I missed a few things... Not easy to go through the markup inside *lines* of ASP scripts, I did *not* even see the event handler in there ;) (the Admin section shows the type of markup the original SS-Scripts generate). I like the even/odd rows for tables and divs in this page and the product page. If you are not already using the zebraAll.js script from list member Patrick Lauke, give him a holler. It handles the striping of divs, tables, lists, and more from one script. I've been using it and absolutely love it. I prefer to do that Server-Side, but I'll take a look at the JS solution, thanks for the pointer. Will you be releasing this as a package soon? E-commerce forms are a Since it is based on a commercial product, I don't think the license allows me to *resell* it as a package. Even it is *very far* from the original product. ;-( dime a dozen but there is so little out there that is as well thought-out as this. Nice work. Thanks, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Drake, Ted C. wrote: If were gonna git nitpicky. I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart: I was going to change the markup as you suggested, but then I thought that a list may not be the correct markup for this. Because it would suggest that there are 3 different items when in fact it is one single item followed by options related to it. Don't you think this: Product Name (Reference), Color: Black, Size: X-Small makes more sense than: - Product Name (Reference) - Color: Black - Size: X-Small In the markup, BRs are just used in lieu of the , to make the content of the cell more legible. Best, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
A standards Compliant e-solution for future reference: (http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/) C On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Hi Ted, If were gonna git nitpicky. I'd clean up this code on the shopping cart: Ouch! I guess I still have more work to do then :) I've started with a commercial (shopping cart) package. Out of the box, the markup doesn't validate, tables are all over the place, deprecated markup, bunch of anchors not in list items, divitis, classitis, no accessibility features, etc. I've cleaned up most of it, but obviously I missed a few things... Not easy to go through the markup inside *lines* of ASP scripts, I did *not* even see the event handler in there ;) (the Admin section shows the type of markup the original SS-Scripts generate). I like the even/odd rows for tables and divs in this page and the product page. If you are not already using the zebraAll.js script from list member Patrick Lauke, give him a holler. It handles the striping of divs, tables, lists, and more from one script. I've been using it and absolutely love it. I prefer to do that Server-Side, but I'll take a look at the JS solution, thanks for the pointer. Will you be releasing this as a package soon? E-commerce forms are a Since it is based on a commercial product, I don't think the license allows me to *resell* it as a package. Even it is *very far* from the original product. ;-( dime a dozen but there is so little out there that is as well thought-out as this. Nice work. Thanks, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check (eStore)
Drake, Ted C. wrote: I like using definition lists over paragraphs for their inherit structure and the hooks they provide for CSS. Do you see any reasons to not use a dl? I like DLs too ;) I have 2 or 3 in this site already. But here I don't think it would be the correct markup. Beside that, server-side, it would create a loop inside another loop, not what I'm really after... This is probably making several people on the list grab their forehead and scream ... who cres! ;) Best, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **