Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
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Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
Help me if I mis-interpret the writer's fine article, but this pertains to Javascript rollovers, too. The end user doesn't know and doesn't care whether that thing popping up was a CSS Hover, or a Javascript rollover. S/he only knows that, by innocently mousing around, something popped up

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
Well, I am down with that..I never did care for the jumpy, spinny, whizzy things... As a print designer, I'm all about good design, good typography, quality imagery and clear communication. however, you sometimes get the idea that if you don't pay obeisance to that fashion (jumpy, spinny,

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 10/20/10 10:19 AM, cat soul wrote: The picture I am developing now is this: HTML and CSS should be used strictly for content, structure and formatting. *Behaviors* are best left to things like Javascript. But it's not that cut and dried -- CSS has always had behaviors, e.g. :hover,

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
I agree thoroughly, Hassan. Yet as this is a best-practices discussion and group, and since we've been hearing that these things A) don't always work and B) aren't always well-received by end users, we're left with a need. And that need is to know: out of the universe of what we can do,

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Jason Arnold
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM, cat soul cats...@thinkplan.org wrote: I agree thoroughly, Hassan. Yet as this is a best-practices discussion and group, and since we've been hearing that these things A) don't always work and B) aren't always well-received by end users, we're left with a need.

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 10/20/10 11:42 AM, cat soul wrote: I agree thoroughly, Hassan. Yet as this is a best-practices discussion and group, and since we've been hearing that these things A) don't always work and B) aren't always well-received by end users, we're left with a need. And that need is to know: out of

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Jon McInerney
stop sending me emails On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Hassan Schroeder has...@webtuitive.com wrote: On 10/20/10 11:42 AM, cat soul wrote: I agree thoroughly, Hassan. Yet as this is a best-practices discussion and group, and since we've been hearing that these things A) don't always work

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread cat soul
Heh! That is pretty funny! However, clients may have the need to ensure a universal experience. One example of this is in their brand values, which may call for a certain look and feel. If a person experiences one thing on their iPad and another experiences something different on their HP

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Russ Weakley
stop sending me emails We've stopped sending this person emails. no need to comment on this. :) Continue with this great thread! Thanks Russ BTW, every WSG email that goes out has an unsubscribe link at the bottom. Better to click that that tell 7,000 people you don't want any emails :)