RE: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Hi Bob, Bert Doorn recently suggested to me that I try: object data=whatever.swf width=x height=y type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=movie value=whatever.swf / param name=quality value=high / pNo Flash?/p /object and so far I haven't found anywhere that it doesn't work! I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem to have issues. See: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026 All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
I notice that I forgot to include a link to the page with the problem. My apologies - here it is: http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/dhha/home4.html Bob, I didn't put in the code you suggested yet. I did try it locally. IE6 STUBBORNLY refuses to show the Flash. The above link will take you to the page with code for the container movie which calls the flash. Works great in FF and Opera. IE6 never seems to load it. It goes and goes and goes, but never gets there. I got the same result testing your solution locally. I'm determined to find a good, standards compliant way to serve Flash clips in IE as well as other browsers, and I know some of the population who will view the site may have Javascript turned off, so that's the reason for wanting a Javascript-less solution. hi Leslie, Bert Doorn recently suggested to me that I try: object data=whatever.swf width=x height=y type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=movie value=whatever.swf / param name=quality value=high / pNo Flash?/p /object and so far I haven't found anywhere that it doesn't work! I've tested it in IE5.5, 6, FF1, Opera8 and with Flash file sizes up to 90K. I haven't found any evidence of streaming problems at all. I haven't reported back to Bert about this, as I was going to test on bigger Flash files first, so if you're reading this Bert, Thank you! Incidentally, it validates as xhtml 1.0 strict! This seems like a revelation to me, and I'd be interested if anyone else knows of any problems? Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Leslie Riggs wrote: http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/dhha/home4.html Bob, I didn't put in the code you suggested yet. I did try it locally. IE6 STUBBORNLY refuses to show the Flash. You have an error in your markup. Try changing param name=top_dhha value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf / to param name=movie value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf / -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Ian Fenn wrote: I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem to have issues. See: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026 Those are known issues of the Satay method, some of which are even outlined in the original ALA article www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Thanks heaps, Patrick. That did the trick. I'd completely overlooked that the param name had to be movie. It validates! It WORKS! Thank you again. Leslie Riggs You have an error in your markup. Try changing param name=top_dhha value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf / to param name=movie value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf / ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
I'm confused as to what is happening here. Will someone please try the opening page of www.kernowimages.co.uk , confirm that it works in IE, and save my sanity? For me it works in WinXP running IE5.5 and 6, as well as FF1, Opera 8. If you have time, you could check the 'credits' page as well. That works too. (well, it does here :-) So what is happening? Duh. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Ian Fenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue Hi Bob, Bert Doorn recently suggested to me that I try: object data=whatever.swf width=x height=y type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=movie value=whatever.swf / param name=quality value=high / pNo Flash?/p /object and so far I haven't found anywhere that it doesn't work! I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem to have issues. See: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026 All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Works for me using IE6/W2K Kim ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Since you helped me, I'll help you. For just a split second, I see a broken image icon in the upper left corner of the area with the Flash (using WinXP Pro SP2 with IE6 on a cable connection), then the Flash loads fine. Same with the credits page. I think the first time someone loads this, that's what happens, but it's only a split second, then the flash loads. Probably the file takes just that wee extra time to load and IE likes to wait till it's all there before it runs the Flash. Leslie Riggs I'm confused as to what is happening here. Will someone please try the opening page of www.kernowimages.co.uk , confirm that it works in IE, and save my sanity? For me it works in WinXP running IE5.5 and 6, as well as FF1, Opera 8. If you have time, you could check the 'credits' page as well. That works too. (well, it does here :-) So what is happening? Duh. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Patrick wrote: I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem to have issues. See: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026 Those are known issues of the Satay method, some of which are even outlined in the original ALA article www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ I know - I just thought running the given example through browser.com might help someone. All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
last week i poted a question on this topic asking list members what they thought of the variousmethods of embedding flash below is a link to flash object so far it has never failed any test posed to it http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best-practices/ an example site which i found to be using the flashObject method http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/ one pf the highest profile sites i know i am extremeley interested to hear opinions on it. whilst on the subject of satay i found it far to complex, and the entire has to load so i hear - or am i wrong SS Ian Fenn wrote: Patrick wrote: I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem to have issues. See: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026 Those are known issues of the Satay method, some of which are even outlined in the original ALA article www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ I know - I just thought running the given example through browser.com might help someone. All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Sam wrote: below is a link to flash object so far it has never failed any test posed to it http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best -practices/ I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the code to work from my server. Unfortunately I didn't have time to carry out a thorough investigation as to why. All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
I wrote: I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the code to work from my server. I forgot to add that it crashed with a JavaScript error - object expected. All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue
Ian Fenn wrote: I wrote: I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the code to work from my server. I forgot to add that it crashed with a _javascript_ error - object expected. All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media http://www.chopstixmedia.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** what browser were you using? it has a wide coverage of the various browsers evrey time it works when I have tested it.
