Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-09 Thread Michael Nelson
Thanks Dylan, Joshua and Nick (and Amit), for the info! Talk about 6-degrees of separation between the backend and presentation :) I'm currently facilitating a class learning HTML/CSS/JavaScript as part of a Certificate IV in WebDesign. We've been learning XHTML 1.0 from the start, separating ou

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-09 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Joshua, Why did you choose to go the XML route and in what way? I went down a similar path with earlier versions of systems I'd built, however, I didn't use XSLT which I'm guessing is how you're doing it. To keep this on topic I'm asking because clean XHTML used with CSS allows data that is

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-09 Thread Chris Stratford
I know what you mean. When I originally started SS Coding with PERL I used templates for EVERYTHING... Then i learnt PHP, and integrated HTML into EVERYTHING! Now I still integrate HTML but differntly. I have 4 basic PHP files. _build_start _build_header _build_footer _build_end start and end are S

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-08 Thread Dylan Egan
Hi, Couldn't agree more. One other suggestion, though, is to extend that separation a little further by generating XML with PHP, and then parsing that XML into whatever templating engine you end up using. This just provides another degree of separation, and reduces the temptation to hard-code ANY

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-08 Thread Joshua Street
Couldn't agree more. One other suggestion, though, is to extend that separation a little further by generating XML with PHP, and then parsing that XML into whatever templating engine you end up using. This just provides another degree of separation, and reduces the temptation to hard-code ANY HTM

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-08 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Michael, One thing I'd suggest if you're learning PHP is to from the very start try as much as possible to avoid having PHP generate your HTML (as in your example). I started coding PHP over 4 years ago using an e-commerce system that generated large amounts of the HTML and I still now ha

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

2004-09-07 Thread Vlad Alexander \(XStandard\)
Hi Michael, This is what you are looking for: http://www.juicystudio.com/tutorial/php/index.asp Regards, -Vlad http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:39 PM Subject: [WSG] Standard