Artemis,
If you're moving to Firefox then you can install the 'HMTL Tidy'
extension the list have informed you of, this hopefully will help when
hand-coding in the followingopen source software I'm
recommending:
Notepad++
http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm
Download
since before I joined the list... so I was one step ahead in that
department at least lol.
Thanks for the links!
Artie
Original Message
From: "Alex James" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re:[WSG] editor
Date: 12/6/2005 02:19
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:53:30 -0500, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
When I first started really getting into web design I began with DW
To be clear, and get back to editors, I posted in favor of DW8. That's
with an _8_. And mentioned I use it in code-view only. But, I also
Artemis ink wired:
Could you pretty please elaborate on rubbish?
I mean, I know what you're saying, but I am
curious as to what code Frontpage and Dreamweaver
puts out that is rubbish.
Like many M$ tools, FrontPage assumes that it is smarter than you are and
puts non-standard items into
: "Conyers, Dwayne, Mr [C]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'" wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re:[WSG] editor
Date: 12/5/2005 07:24
Artemis ink wired:
Could you pretty please elaborate on "rubbish"?
I mean, I know what you're saying, but
Artemis wrote:
I'm confused lol. My personal site is XHTML and I don't get any popup
box when viewing in IE. What is this ?xml? used for? Why would the
average personal site need it? If you could explain in beginner
speak, I would greatly appreciate it :)
Information at the end of these
Artemis wrote:
I'm confused lol. My personal site is XHTML and I don't get any popup
box when viewing in IE.
That is because the MIME type sent in the HTTP Content-Type header would
be set to text/html. As has been discussed in this thread, the correct
MIME type is application/xhtml+xml,
On 12/3/05, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Be aware that an XML 1.0 parser that was not built for XML 1.1 as well,
will fail with a well-formedness error if version=1.1 is encountered
in the declaration. For XML 1.0, the XML declaration is optional.
Wait, so you are saying that I could
Christian Montoya wrote:
Wait, so you are saying that I could serve application/xhtml+xml to
modern browsers without the xml declaration? What about declaring the
stylesheets in xml declarations at the top of the document? I thought
that was required.
As we're talking about xhtml (rather than
On 12/3/05, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
Wait, so you are saying that I could serve application/xhtml+xml to
modern browsers without the xml declaration? What about declaring the
stylesheets in xml declarations at the top of the document? I thought
Anne van Kesteren wrote:
There was this note once from the W3C which said that the XML Style
Sheet PI should be used when the media type of the XHTML file is
application/xhtml+xml[1]. And as should is similar to a must...
Ah, I see, cheers Anne. On the should issue:
from
Christian Montoya wrote:
On 12/3/05, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Be aware that an XML 1.0 parser that was not built for XML 1.1 as well,
will fail with a well-formedness error if version=1.1 is encountered
in the declaration. For XML 1.0, the XML declaration is optional.
Wait, so
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:38:31 -0500, Steve Clason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd suggest avoiding WYSIWYG editors (Dreamweaver, Frontpage, etc.)
FrontPlague, yes - avoid it. DreamWeaver 8, i'd think about. It's pricy
(compared to NotePad and TextEdit), sure, but it has excellent CSS support
Hi Lori
Welcome to the list
HTML Tidy is a third party tool, rather than an editor. It comes in
very handy when you want to convert some code to standards compliant
code. Your best introduction to Tidy is probably via the Firefox
extension @
: Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re:[WSG] editor
Date: 12/1/2005 18:38
Avoid MS Frontpage like the plague, it will output rubbish for even
the most experienced users.
**
The discussion list for http
: Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re:[WSG] editor
Date: 12/1/2005 19:31
Try this in IE:
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=XHTMLwithHeader=1
Oops, that's served as application/xhtml+xml, so it won't work.
Here's the same article as text/html
Artemis wrote:
Could
you pretty please elaborate on "rubbish"? I mean, I know what you're
saying, but I am curious as to
what code Frontpage and Dreamweaver puts out that is rubbish. I've seen
it said so many times, but no one
ever elaborates.
Many thanks,
Artemis
From: Lori Cole
...using XHTML and would like to know what HTML editor
Like HTMLTidy?
HTML-Kit (incorporates Tidy) will work, as will just about any
plain text editor, with or without syntax highlighting.
EditPad, jEdit, Notetab and so on.
jEdit is pretty clever and it runs on most platforms
Before we get a flood of posts along the lines of my favourite
editor is and mine too ...
Have you looked at the resources section of the WSG website?
http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/
Regards
--
Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading,
On 12/1/2005 6:43 PM Lori Cole wrote:
I am new to (trying to learn how) constructing standards conforming web
pages using XHTML and would like to know what HTML editor you folks that
are light years ahead of me would recommend? Like HTMLTidy? I am
Windows based with IE v6 which I will soon
Lori Cole wrote:
I am new to (trying to learn how) constructing standards conforming web
pages using XHTML
Since you're new, you might want to stick with HTML4 until a) browser
support for XHTML increases (IE does not support XHTML), and b) you've
learned and understand all the differences
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Since you're new, you might want to stick with HTML4 until a) browser
support for XHTML increases (IE does not support XHTML),
Heh... please elabourate on how IE doesn't support XHTML.
.Matthew Cruickshank
http://holloway.co.nz/
Matthew Cruickshank wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Since you're new, you might want to stick with HTML4 until a) browser
support for XHTML increases (IE does not support XHTML),
Heh... please elabourate on how IE doesn't support XHTML.
Try this in IE:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Try this in IE:
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=XHTMLwithHeader=1
Oops, that's served as application/xhtml+xml, so it won't work.
Here's the same article as text/html:
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=XHTML
One other thing that doesn't
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:08 +1000, Tatham Oddie (Fuel Advance) wrote:
Hi all,
I’m looking for some advice on editor controls (like JS controls) for
a CMS type ‘thing’ I’m building.
First off, I'm foreseeing an admin saying this should be on the CMS list
instead...
Any ideas?
... but yes,
www.xstandard.com they
are very serious about standars =) even got some firefox/mozilla behavior
modified to allow better compatibility with their editor
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From:
Tatham Oddie (Fuel Advance)
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Sunday, August 07,
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