Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
Hi Mike, On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:56:38 +1200, you wrote: Honestly, there is no reason to send a simple thanks to the *whole* list. Just a reply to the person you're thanking would be appropriate and wouldn't increase the email overload for thousands of others on this list. Speaking strictly for myself, I do appreciate knowing when a suggestion made on this list actually works or not. So, for me, a simple thanks is useful feedback. Just a FYI -- Your point is valid, too. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
Ok here it is-Im just putting this up here as a last ditch effort. http://67.199.64.89/newtable3.html Can anyone offer advice on fixing/locking table cell/row height across browsers? The main problem is making the two adjacent tables appear to be one continuous table. Getting the cell height to line up is proving very difficult, maybe impossible. It aligns ok in ff3 but breaks in ie6 and ie7 both in different ways. Im using the height html attribute right now because i cant think of another way to fix the height of cells with the differnt kinds of different data in them. Im trying to fix a broken .net layout with css and html. Its never going to validate, theres nothing i can do about that. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
If the markup has to stay as it is now, your problems are probably
coming from images for one thing. IE7 adds the 3 pixel padding to the
bottom of the images so getting equal heights will be tough.
You should be able to get the cells to behave somewhat with this classic:
td {
min-height: 50px;
_height: 50px; /* for IE7 */
}
Then again...
Why IS this 2 different tables? It seems the data in the left table is
part of the grid of the 2nd table.
Putting the tables together in markup would alleviate the issues you are
having in the presentation and make the relationship of the data more
proper.
I'd do something like this:
table
captionAllocation Table/caption
thead
tr
th scope=colRoom Type amp; Period Totals/th
th scope=rowDate/th
th scope=colTue 05 Aug/th
etc...
You can mix up td and th as long as you specify what the headers are
covering, be it a column or row.
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kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Ok here it is-Im just putting this up here as a last ditch effort.
http://67.199.64.89/newtable3.html
Can anyone offer advice on fixing/locking table cell/row height across
browsers?
The main problem is making the two adjacent tables appear to be one
continuous table. Getting the cell height to line up is proving very
difficult, maybe impossible. It aligns ok in ff3 but breaks in ie6
and ie7 both in different ways. Im using the height html attribute
right now because i cant think of another way to fix the height of
cells with the differnt kinds of different data in them.
Im trying to fix a broken .net layout with css and html.
Its never going to validate, theres nothing i can do about that.
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
Could you not do this with div's and use an unordered list? Mathew O'Connor Essential eBiz Solutions Original message From: kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell Ok here it is-Im just putting this up here as a last ditch effort. http://67.199.64.89/newtable3.html Can anyone offer advice on fixing/locking table cell/row height across browsers? The main problem is making the two adjacent tables appear to be one continuous table. Getting the cell height to line up is proving very difficult, maybe impossible. It aligns ok in ff3 but breaks in ie6 and ie7 both in different ways. Im using the height html attribute right now because i cant think of another way to fix the height of cells with the differnt kinds of different data in them. Im trying to fix a broken .net layout with css and html. Its never going to validate, theres nothing i can do about that. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
no this is tabular data, but could do with some organising though, and reduce the visual info, much too intense... On Aug 07, 2008, at 17:02, EBS wrote: Could you not do this with div's and use an unordered list? Mathew O'Connor Essential eBiz Solutions Original message From: kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell Ok here it is-Im just putting this up here as a last ditch effort. http://67.199.64.89/newtable3.html Can anyone offer advice on fixing/locking table cell/row height across browsers? The main problem is making the two adjacent tables appear to be one continuous table. Getting the cell height to line up is proving very difficult, maybe impossible. It aligns ok in ff3 but breaks in ie6 and ie7 both in different ways. Im using the height html attribute right now because i cant think of another way to fix the height of cells with the differnt kinds of different data in them. Im trying to fix a broken .net layout with css and html. Its never going to validate, theres nothing i can do about that. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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yes if i was doing the asp i would have looked at that for a solution. But still its very tabular as well. EBS wrote: Could you not do this with div's and use an unordered list? Mathew O'Connor Essential eBiz Solutions \** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
cheers joseph,
its two different tables because of some show hide function that
requires that.
I pushed for one table but apparently that cant be done.
Thanks for the tip on the images, that was causing a problem, im going
to clear them and use text.
Regarding this:
td {
min-height: 50px;
_height: 50px; /* for IE7 */
}
brilliant thanks
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
yes for some reason programmer needs two tables which was the big issue for me. I have the height alignments just about worked out now though. Regarding the color, there isnt much color in the table layout, unless you counting black which is a shade like white. The input boxes have to be color coded i need to adjust those as they are quite busy at the moment. -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
joseph what browser is that screen shot from? i wasnt getting the left hand text overflowing like that in any of my browsers. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
are you certain the show hide is both necessary and cannot be resolved
in another way? If you need show/hide you could nest the content in a
div in the table cells maybe?
Joe
On Aug 07, 2008, at 17:07, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
cheers joseph,
its two different tables because of some show hide function that
requires that.
I pushed for one table but apparently that cant be done.
Thanks for the tip on the images, that was causing a problem, im
going to clear them and use text.
Regarding this:
td {
min-height: 50px;
_height: 50px; /* for IE7 */
}
brilliant thanks
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
FireFox2 On Aug 07, 2008, at 17:15, kevin mcmonagle wrote: joseph what browser is that screen shot from? i wasnt getting the left hand text overflowing like that in any of my browsers. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
Question couldn't you just set the padding to 0px to take care of IE
adding the padding? Is there a reason this would not work?
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Joseph Taylor wrote:
If the markup has to stay as it is now, your problems are probably
coming from images for one thing. IE7 adds the 3 pixel padding to
the bottom of the images so getting equal heights will be tough.
You should be able to get the cells to behave somewhat with this classic:
td {
min-height: 50px;
_height: 50px; /* for IE7 */
}
Then again...
Why IS this 2 different tables? It seems the data in the left table
is part of the grid of the 2nd table.
Putting the tables together in markup would alleviate the issues you
are having in the presentation and make the relationship of the data
more proper.
I'd do something like this:
table
captionAllocation Table/caption
thead
tr
th scope=colRoom Type amp; Period Totals/th
th scope=rowDate/th
th scope=colTue 05 Aug/th
etc...
You can mix up td and th as long as you specify what the headers
are covering, be it a column or row.
Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer / Developer/
--
Sites by Joe, LLC
/Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Ok here it is-Im just putting this up here as a last ditch effort.
http://67.199.64.89/newtable3.html
Can anyone offer advice on fixing/locking table cell/row height
across browsers?
The main problem is making the two adjacent tables appear to be one
continuous table. Getting the cell height to line up is proving very
difficult, maybe impossible. It aligns ok in ff3 but breaks in ie6
and ie7 both in different ways. Im using the height html attribute
right now because i cant think of another way to fix the height of
cells with the differnt kinds of different data in them.
Im trying to fix a broken .net layout with css and html.
Its never going to validate, theres nothing i can do about that.
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
I'd challenge the developer to create something that allows the data to remain tabular and logical. If he can't do it I'd say he's not up to the task. My dev's could! On Aug 07, 2008, at 17:12, kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes for some reason programmer needs two tables which was the big issue for me. I have the height alignments just about worked out now though. Regarding the color, there isnt much color in the table layout, unless you counting black which is a shade like white. The input boxes have to be color coded i need to adjust those as they are quite busy at the moment. -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** == Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
Kevin, If I may make a recommendation, adjust the background color of your cells to match the bottom color of your background gradients so when text gets enlarged it still looks smooth inside the cell rather than having the graphic cut off. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes for some reason programmer needs two tables which was the big issue for me. I have the height alignments just about worked out now though. Regarding the color, there isnt much color in the table layout, unless you counting black which is a shade like white. The input boxes have to be color coded i need to adjust those as they are quite busy at the moment. -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
joseph i keep my brightness at 0, and thought it matched. thanks for the tip Joseph Taylor wrote: Kevin, If I may make a recommendation, adjust the background color of your cells to match the bottom color of your background gradients so when text gets enlarged it still looks smooth inside the cell rather than having the graphic cut off. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
kevin mcmonagle wrote: joseph i keep my brightness at 0, and thought it matched. thanks for the tip Joseph Taylor wrote: Kevin, If I may make a recommendation, adjust the background color of your cells to match the bottom color of your background gradients so when text gets enlarged it still looks smooth inside the cell rather than having the graphic cut off. Kevin Honestly, there is no reason to send a simple thanks to the *whole* list. Just a reply to the person you're thanking would be appropriate and wouldn't increase the email overload for thousands of others on this list. Thank you. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
That could have been off list too :-D --Original Message-- From: Mike Brown Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org ReplyTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: 7 Aug 2008 20:56 Subject: Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell kevin mcmonagle wrote: joseph i keep my brightness at 0, and thought it matched. thanks for the tip Joseph Taylor wrote: Kevin, If I may make a recommendation, adjust the background color of your cells to match the bottom color of your background gradients so when text gets enlarged it still looks smooth inside the cell rather than having the graphic cut off. Kevin Honestly, there is no reason to send a simple thanks to the *whole* list. Just a reply to the person you're thanking would be appropriate and wouldn't increase the email overload for thousands of others on this list. Thank you. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
