Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Andras Bato
George, I sometimes used macros like XX0YY PSE QSY and the like just for fast firefighting.. That is not enough to solve the IARU Bandplan problem. Our representatives at all the three IARU Regions meet regularly and above all they communicate on their channels. These communications are much

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Saku
Bill Somerville kirjoitti 14.03.2018 klo 14:12: On 14/03/2018 10:24, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote: TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. Hi Jim, why not? I totally agree with Bill. Why this huge complain? Look at what Joe and his team has done! Really something new that we

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread George J Molnar
Andras, Yes my family is from Hungary. I clearly remember my grandfather’s strong accent, expressions, and cooking! We have been in America only since WW1, and am sure there are many relatives in Europe. I understand your concern completely. Not sure there is much we can do about some

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Richard Stanley via wsjt-devel
-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow Have to agree with Jim, N2ADV. An expedition should NOT be using a mode-in-development. It is a near-guarantee of confusion. That said, DXpedition mode is something of a Pandora’s Box. Once opened, the developers have no control over who uses

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Mike, comments in line below. On 14/03/2018 12:46, mwbese...@cox.net wrote: Thanks Bill... but the point is people are NOT being respectful of others.  And for the record, I never claimed that anyone 'owned' any give frequency, but we have lived by a gentleman's agreement for all of the

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Andras Bato
Hello Mr. Molnar, maybe our predecessors were fighting together for freedom here in Hungary. A large port of the problem is jamming by operators of certain countries, mainly in South-Europe. Something has to be done against their bullying style. I'm sure it helps! GL de HA6NN Andras On Wed, Mar

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread mwbesemer
Thanks Bill... but the point is people are NOT being respectful of others. And for the record, I never claimed that anyone 'owned' any give frequency, but we have lived by a gentleman's agreement for all of the 43 years I have been a ham - and people mostly respected that agreement. That's

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread mwbesemer
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow On 14/03/2018 10:24, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote: TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. Hi Jim, why not? https://ty2018dx.wordpress.com/ and check their QRZ.COM page. They are not some random

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Bill Somerville
On 14/03/2018 12:24, mwbese...@cox.net wrote: "and are fully aware of the caveats about making sure that callers know how to work them etc. then their brave attempt to try out an as yet unpolished feature" And yet these 'brave' DXers landed smack on top of the PSK band. Great job, geniuses.

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread James Shaver
Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:13 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow On 14/03/2018 10:24, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote: > TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. Hi Jim, wh

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread mwbesemer
"and are fully aware of the caveats about making sure that callers know how to work them etc. then their brave attempt to try out an as yet unpolished feature" And yet these 'brave' DXers landed smack on top of the PSK band. Great job, geniuses. Mike WM4B On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:12

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Bill Somerville
On 14/03/2018 10:24, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote: TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. Hi Jim, why not? https://ty2018dx.wordpress.com/ and check their QRZ.COM page. They are not some random OM playing with FT8 DXpedition mode on the normal FT8 sub-bands. Benin may not be

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread George Molnar
Have to agree with Jim, N2ADV. An expedition should NOT be using a mode-in-development. It is a near-guarantee of confusion. That said, DXpedition mode is something of a Pandora’s Box. Once opened, the developers have no control over who uses it or when. It would be more than a little naive

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Hasan al-Basri
tream.net] > *Sent:* 14 March 2018 10:25 > *To:* WSJT software development > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow > > > > TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. > > > > Jim S. > > N2ADV. > > > On Mar 14, 2018, a

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread James Shaver
[mailto:oh1...@nic.fi] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:24 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:24:30 -0400 "James Shaver (N2ADV)" <n2...@windstream.net> kirjoitti: > TY7C should not h

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread Charles Suckling
lots would have been set to 1, I think. 73 Charlie G3WDG _ From: James Shaver (N2ADV) [mailto:n2...@windstream.net] Sent: 14 March 2018 10:25 To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow TY7C should not have even been using

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

2018-03-14 Thread jarmo
Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:24:30 -0400 "James Shaver (N2ADV)" kirjoitti: > TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. > > Jim S. > N2ADV. And why not? For me TY is quite DX... Jarmo --