Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Matthew Miller
all. Maybe that would be the best way? -Matt / KK4NDE -Original Message- From: Christoph Berg [mailto:m...@debian.org] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 12:21 PM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software Re: Adam Bartlett 2019-05-10 > One of the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Adam Bartlett 2019-05-10 > One of the challenges of automatic updating is package managers and such on > the Linux side are often generations behind (not a big deal, but if a user > installs Ubuntu, types "apt install wsjtx" and they still have 1.x in their > repo it's going to confuse them)

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Adam Bartlett
One of the challenges of automatic updating is package managers and such on the Linux side are often generations behind (not a big deal, but if a user installs Ubuntu, types "apt install wsjtx" and they still have 1.x in their repo it's going to confuse them) and trying to deal with those can be

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread WB5JJJ
If the program on startup finds a valid Internet connection, then check for an update automatically. If one is available, download it, or at least supply a link to the file, and THEN allow the user to install (or delete) it as they feel. Make it keep bugging the user on startup of WSJTx until

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Onno Benschop
Backwards compatibility is a thing ... Also, if the new version of the software knows how to decode an older encoding, you already have an implied version number. It's not like this takes eons to decode, nothing wrong with trying several times, newest version first, next version next and so on.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Matthew Miller
intervention to keep things working can and will fail sooner or later. -Matt / KK4NDE From: Matthew Miller [mailto:mmill...@mail.umw.edu] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 7:20 AM To: 'WSJT software development' Cc: 'Gustafson Neil' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software Even easier than

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Matthew Miller
essage- From: rjai...@gmail.com<mailto:rjai...@gmail.com> [mailto:rjai...@gmail.com<mailto:rjai...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:19 PM To: WSJT software development Cc: Gustafson Neil Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software That's a good idea. Some held

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Reino Talarmo
Hi Onno, >A better idea is to include a protocol version number in the QSO information, >that way both sides have a chance to alert the operator. A nice idea, but that information needs to be sent using the lower layer of the previous protocol version…. 73, Reino, oh3ma

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Jonathan Magee
int is, for a beta the expiration makes sense like a trial expires. >> For production software, there are much more conventional reasonable ways >> to encourage users to update. >> >> -Matt / KK4NDE >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: rjai...@gmai

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-10 Thread Onno Benschop
ays >> to encourage users to update. >> >> -Matt / KK4NDE >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: rjai...@gmail.com [mailto:rjai...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:19 PM >> To: WSJT software development >> Cc: Gustafson Neil >> S

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-09 Thread rjai...@gmail.com
sers to update. > > -Matt / KK4NDE > > -Original Message- > From: rjai...@gmail.com [mailto:rjai...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:19 PM > To: WSJT software development > Cc: Gustafson Neil > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software > &g

Re: [wsjt-devel] Expiration Date on Software

2019-05-09 Thread Matthew Miller
-devel] Expiration Date on Software That's a good idea. Some held on to old versions so they could retain features that were detrimental to the herd, such as lock rx=tx. Expiring the versions is a very good idea. Ria N2RJ On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 19:14, Gustafson Neil via wsjt-devel wrote: > &