Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Rich, On 5/30/2019 19:49, Rich Zwirko - K1HTV wrote:   If stations with non-standard non-compound calls are presently allowed to skip the TX1 message and start with TX2, will a future release of WSJT-X inhibit users with such calls from doing the TX1 to TX2 skip? Perhaps. But think abou

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Somerville
On 31/05/2019 00:49, Rich Zwirko - K1HTV wrote: Bill et al,   If stations with non-standard non-compound calls are presently allowed to skip the TX1 message and start with TX2, will a future release of WSJT-X inhibit users with such calls from doing the TX1 to TX2 skip? 73, Rich - K1HTV Hi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Rich Zwirko - K1HTV
Bill et al, If stations with non-standard non-compound calls are presently allowed to skip the TX1 message and start with TX2, will a future release of WSJT-X inhibit users with such calls from doing the TX1 to TX2 skip? 73, Rich - K1HTV = = = Hi Mike and Jari, I will qualify that. For compou

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Somerville
On 30/05/2019 15:25, Bill Somerville wrote: On 30/05/2019 15:15, Bill Somerville wrote: double-clicking a CQ decode will do the right thing. The DX in this case must have taken deliberate action to send Tx2, that is their mistake, not our problem to fix. Hi Mike and Jari, I will qualify tha

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Joe Taylor
On 5/30/2019 10:24 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Is there any reason TX2 can't default to be " ME -01" instead of "THEM -01" ? YES. You're assuming ME is a nonstandard call, which needs 58 bits to be sent in full. In your example the hashed call uses 12 bits. That does not leav

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Somerville
On 30/05/2019 15:24, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Is there any reason TX2 can't default to be " ME -01" instead of "THEM -01" ? You may never see a CQ. Mike, you should either try such messages with the ft8code application or review the message packing code before making such suggest

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Somerville
On 30/05/2019 15:15, Bill Somerville wrote: double-clicking a CQ decode will do the right thing. The DX in this case must have taken deliberate action to send Tx2, that is their mistake, not our problem to fix. Hi Mike and Jari, I will qualify that. For compound calls the above is true but f

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Is there any reason TX2 can't default to be " ME -01" instead of "THEM -01" ?You may never see a CQ. Mike On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 9:20:28 AM CDT, Bill Somerville wrote: Mike, double-clicking a CQ decode will do the right thing. The DX in this case must have taken deliberate

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Joe Taylor
On 5/30/2019 10:09 AM, Black Michael W9MDB via wsjt-devel wrote: So do you consider that a bug?  Should TX2 always be sent in that format? NO. It is an operator error for a station using a nonstandard callsign, say PJ4/K1ABC, to try to initiate a QSO by sending Tx2 rather than Tx1. This (T

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Somerville
Mike, double-clicking a CQ decode will do the right thing. The DX in this case must have taken deliberate action to send Tx2, that is their mistake, not our problem to fix. 73 Bill G4WJS. On 30/05/2019 14:27, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: How about for hashable calls we do a a last-tim

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
So do you consider that a bug?  Should TX2 always be sent in that format? Mike On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 8:28:05 AM CDT, Joe Taylor wrote: Someone has called you using a message like this:   OH2FQV To initiate contact by replying to your CQ, they should have sent the message thi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
How about for hashable calls we do a a last-time-TX1-transmitted.  And if TX2 is started without ever transmitting TX1 then a warning dialog pops up to 'splain things. Mike On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 8:23:21 AM CDT, Bill Somerville wrote: On 30/05/2019 14:13, Black Michael via wsjt-

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Joe Taylor
Someone has called you using a message like this: OH2FQV To initiate contact by replying to your CQ, they should have sent the message this way: PJ4/K1ABC In other words, the NONSTANDARD callsign must be sent in the clear (not enclosed in <> brackets) in the first message. -- 73,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Somerville
On 30/05/2019 14:13, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Maybe WSJT-X should ensure such users send CQ once in a while...that would be non-intuitive.  A simple message in the decode window or such that said "CQ needed, non std call" with a help file reference to 'splain things. Hi Mike and J

Re: [wsjt-devel] Call sign error

2019-05-30 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Whoever is calling you is a non-standard callsign that you have not seen before.So the hash code that is being sent is not in your lookup table.If nobody ever sends their callsign without hashing it the only time you'll see it is when they call CQ...then it would be in your lookup table. Maybe W