Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 timing accuracy

2019-05-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/05/2019 22:20, Bill Frantz wrote: On 5/3/19 at 1:58 PM, g4...@classdesign.com (Bill Somerville) wrote: your conclusions are all correct. We are currently fine tuning the FT4 transmission start time so that the decoder gets a reasonably even chance of decoding signals across the

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 timing accuracy

2019-05-03 Thread V. Scott Moore via wsjt-devel
Windows only or all platforms? Scott W1ssn Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > >> On 03/05/2019 21:24, Reino Talarmo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for an excellent piece of communication protocol both FT8 and FT4. It >> would be interesting to see how big

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 timing accuracy

2019-05-03 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Scott, Linux and Mac systems nearly all have accurate time synchronization without any extra user setup. Obviously if no suitable Internet connection nor GPS receiver is available then the same issues apply. 73 Bill G4WJS. On 03/05/2019 22:05, V. Scott Moore via wsjt-devel wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 timing accuracy

2019-05-03 Thread Bill Frantz
On 5/3/19 at 1:58 PM, g4...@classdesign.com (Bill Somerville) wrote: your conclusions are all correct. We are currently fine tuning the FT4 transmission start time so that the decoder gets a reasonably even chance of decoding signals across the allowable DT tolerance of ± 0.5 S without losing

[wsjt-devel] Runtime error (sub process) - collected data

2019-05-03 Thread Joe, LB1HI
Hi Bill, Joe, Steve and all other participants in this forum RE: Sub process error I listened  a long period of time on two WSJT-X FT4 instances at the same time.  There were no errors. I listened at the "normal" decoding level. At the time (20:04) when I changed the level of decoding to

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 timing accuracy

2019-05-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/05/2019 21:24, Reino Talarmo wrote: Hi, Thanks for an excellent piece of communication protocol both FT8 and FT4. It would be interesting to see how big guns start to use FT4 instead of RTTY. For strong signals RTTY is a bit faster than FT8, but most of the users are not big guns! The

[wsjt-devel] WJTX and JTDX Audio Input Level

2019-05-03 Thread Enrique Scheuer
Hello Bill or Joe, good evening, For some reason since I´ve installed WSJT X 2.1.0 the already known 100% audio input level jumped also in my JTDX 135. I am not succeeding to go back to lower audio levels in JTDX. Any reason for that ? Any suggestion? 73 de Enrique PY2CP

Re: [wsjt-devel] WJTX and JTDX Audio Input Level

2019-05-03 Thread Joe, LB1HI
Hi Enrique, http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/Reported_bugs.txt 1. The 64-bit executable for Windows resets the audio input gain to 100% on program startup, when the input audio device is changed, and when switching to a new configuration. 73`s Joe Jozef LB1HI On 03/05/2019 23:50,

[wsjt-devel] (no subject)

2019-05-03 Thread Roeland Jansen
hi all, I did mention this briefly a few days ago. - The build platform is suse leap 15 - issue is active with wsjtx-2.01/linux (someone else built it for suse) - issue is active with wsjtx-2.1.0rc5/linux (built myself) - no issue with both versions in windows 10 pro I believe it might be a

[wsjt-devel] JT9 command line decode bug

2019-05-03 Thread Alan Hopper
Hi all, firstly thanks for all the hard work in creating FT4, I'm having lots of fun with it. I think I have found a bug when decoding JT9 from the command line:- C:\Users\alan\AppData\Roaming\m0nnb\SparkSDR2\jt9\jt9tmp_18796012>c:\wsjt\wsjtx21rc5\bin\jt9.exe -9 -f 7076000 190503_0710.wav At

[wsjt-devel] Loopback decoding

2019-05-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Was doing some comparison with old/new FT8 and found I was unable to decode on a local loopback either way. I'm running at -21dB on both instances for power and the level meter is showing about 60dB.The received wavform looks pretty but does not decode.  Maybe there's not enough noise? Here is

[wsjt-devel] minor issue: time on screen and ALL.TXT is different

2019-05-03 Thread Iztok Saje
Hello! WSJTX 2.0.1, most likely 2.1.0-rc5 as well. Introduced with new ALL.TXT file format. When jt9 takes a bit too much time, decoded frames are coming late to the main program. For example, if FT14 period is from 122800 till 122815, and decoded frame shows at 122816, then it is shown on

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-03 Thread DG2YCB, Uwe
Bill, Decode is already set to "Deep" plus AP. But no decoding of LZ497OM on my Win10-PC with WSJT-X. Will try to bring also example No. 1 through the size limit of the reflector. 73 de Uwe, DG2YCB Von: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Mai 2019 12:46 An:

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X rc5 Subprocess error

2019-05-03 Thread K2DBK-WSJT
I had the system play back a couple of days worth of files and wasn’t able to find the one that caused the issue. Is it possible that it plays back OK but only fails when “live”? From: Bill Somerville Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 9:57 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

[wsjt-devel] Crash report

2019-05-03 Thread Jari A
Crash: Win 7 pro 64-bit M0FOX did CQ on 20m FT4 and I return to him several times and small error window open in the middle of tx sequence with: Running: D:\radio\HAM\Datamode\WSJT-X_210_RC5\wsjtx\bin\jt9 -s WSJT-X -w 1 -m 3 -e D:\radio\HAM\Datamode\WSJT-X_210_RC5\wsjtx\bin -a

[wsjt-devel] FT4 decoder in jt9 app?

2019-05-03 Thread K1RA - Andy Z
Is there a new command line option for the command line jt9 app to allow decoding of FT4? I see -4 is for JT4 but after compiling on my RPi 3 I don't see anything listed for FT4. Is it not available there yet? Or just not added to the help yet? I'm looking to run jt9 w/ FT4 on my KiwiSDR to

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 decoder in jt9 app?

2019-05-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
>From "jt9 -h"  -5 --ft4    FT4 mode de Mike W9MDB On Friday, May 3, 2019, 11:21:41 AM CDT, K1RA - Andy Z wrote: Is there a new command line option for the command line jt9 app to allow decoding of FT4? I see -4 is for JT4 but after compiling on my RPi 3 I don't see anything

Re: [wsjt-devel] Crash report

2019-05-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Jari -- Please click on "Read Before Download" here: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html ... which will take you here: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/Reported_bugs.txt There is no need to provide further feedback on any of the known issues in WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 that

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-03 Thread DG2YCB, Uwe
Next curious observation: WSJT-X 64 bit and JTDX in parallel, listening to 6m band, both connected to the same audio source, no QSO running, only a few stations on band, with both programs saving all audio files to my SSD. Results: From time to time JTDX decodes more callsigns. So far so good

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-03 Thread DG2YCB, Uwe
Bill, LZ497OM's signal seems to be on the borderline of decoding. Got the decode now two times when using the 64 bit version of WSJT-X. Be so kind as to take a look also on example #1. There, the situation was more similar to my QSO with F5NK a couple of days ago. (Unfortunately I have no audio

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-03 Thread Steven Franke via wsjt-devel
This comparison is not particularly meaningful. JTDX was “in qso” with AM70U. So the DX Call box contained the callsign AM70U and the internal QSO state machine was likely in a state that enabled AP decoding using both your callsign and the dx call. On the other hand, the DX Call box on the

Re: [wsjt-devel] S+P operation

2019-05-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Paul, On 5/2/2019 8:43 PM, Paul Kube K6PO wrote: The documentation http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT4_Protocol.pdf says, re S+P: "Here “best potential QSO partner” means “New Multiplier” (1st priority) or “New Call on Band” (2nd priority)." Now it seems to me that "New Call"

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 decoder in jt9 app?

2019-05-03 Thread K1RA - Andy Z
Thanks! The old version was still in my PATH and since jt9 doesn't report a version number when running -h (help) I didn't realize I was still executing 2.0, hence no -5...ugh! All is well now running with jt9 v2.1.0-rc5. 73 andyz - K1RA >From "jt9 -h" -5 --ft4FT4 mode de Mike W9MDB

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-03 Thread Joe Taylor
On 5/3/2019 11:21 AM, DG2YCB, Uwe wrote: Next curious observation: WSJT-X 64 bit and JTDX in parallel, listening to 6m band, both connected to the same audio source, no QSO running, only a few stations on band, with both programs saving all audio files to my SSD. Results: From time to time

[wsjt-devel] FT4 timing accuracy

2019-05-03 Thread Reino Talarmo
Hi, Thanks for an excellent piece of communication protocol both FT8 and FT4. It would be interesting to see how big guns start to use FT4 instead of RTTY. For strong signals RTTY is a bit faster than FT8, but most of the users are not big guns! The bandwidth saving in FT4 is a really big issue,