Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 calling CQ

2019-04-14 Thread DX Jami via wsjt-devel
 Dwight,
I log everything to the WSJT-X log and periodically export the adi file to 
Log4OM which is a Windows based program.  There I can import the log to any of 
my four call-sign logs.  

When on DX-vacations I run a MacBook Pro and do the same thing - export that 
file to Log4OM.  Having said that I use MacLogger DX on the Apple MacBook Pro.
Log4OM populates many of the missing data elements such as grid when I run the 
update utility.  FYI - waving the flag for Log4OM ... it was developed by the 
same guy who was the brains behind HRD.  He sold HRD and later developed 
Log4OM, which is simple but still has many basic features we seek in logging 
programs.  It is free - but many folks contribute to help keep its excellent 
support going.

I know I can set up WSJT-X to interface with those logging programs, but I 
choose to keep things simple and Murphy-proof as much as possible by doing the 
extra steps.  I realize too that logging programs may provide the missing grid 
too, but ...

    Danny    W4/AH6FX - Virginia 

On Saturday, April 13, 2019, 10:43:50 AM EDT, dgb  wrote: 
 
 
  
If it's a new call I haven't worked, my logger automatically looks the call in 
qrz or if it's previously worked, it grabs it from the old log entry. What 
logger are you using, mine is DXLabs?
 
73 Dwight NS9I
 
 On 4/13/2019 9:13 AM, DX Jami via wsjt-devel wrote:
  
 
 Dick, 
  Agree with you Dick.  It is a big pain to log an "abbreviated" FT8 QSO which 
omits the grid square.  I used to use 
http://www.levinecentral.com/ham/grid_square.php to look up  missing grids.  
With the grid square competition now history ... grids to some are less 
important.  Altho I am not a grid square collector - I always looked up the 
missing grid square because my "logs" required them.  Of course we can not log 
an FT8 contact into the grid square database without a valid grid square.  
However, we can log an FT8 exchange into our "FT8 contact" log without a grid.  
It simply has no entry for the grid square data element.  This is not a big 
show stopper because my logging program updates certain missing fields when I 
import the WSJT-X log.adi file.  
  
  But fundamentally Dick, when working as a DX station, I simply ignore 
stations which do not go thru the entire FT8 exchange sequence because many of 
them are QRMing my in-progress QSO and simply being rude, like I said 
previously.  I hear several people talk about speeding up FT8 exchanges by 
eliminating certain parts of the FT8 sequences.  For the most part, I reject 
that argument.  Maybe we all have a lot of time on our hands even if we are 
working FT8, and working one more redundant DXCC entity is perhaps no big deal.
  
  Have a good day. 
      Danny     W4/AH6FX - Virignia 
  On Friday, April 12, 2019, 5:38:40 PM EDT, Richard Solomon 
 wrote:  
  
  As fast as FT8 is, there are folks who want a QSO completed faster.  
   It's a real pain, especially if I have to look up the guys call to get his 
   Grid Square. And, if it's a portable operation, it's even more difficult. 
   
   73, Dick, W1KSZ
   
Sent from OutlookFrom: Timothy Hickman 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 11:44 AM
 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [wsjt-devel] FT8 calling CQ  I have noticed lately that when I 
send CQ on FT8 A few stations start 
 their respond with the signal report not their grid square.
 
 Is there something here I do not understand?
 
 Tim
 
 N3JON
 
 
 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices

2019-04-14 Thread Tom Melvin
What I can’t workout is why people are using EU VHF in the 1st place. 

It is not specifically in the rules page as Saku pointed out, but top of the 
contest page has a link to  FT8 settings, that clearly shows should be RTTY, 
the links to MSHV has a big page on contest setup, again says rtty - wsjt 
points to manual at contest settings.

So why are so many people using EU VHF?  - Hopefully as you all point out if it 
is specified on the same page as the rules it _may_ help.

Tom

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On 14 Apr 2019, at 09:45, Saku  wrote:

> Neil Zampella kirjoitti 14.4.2019 klo 6.49:
>> That is something they will need to change if they decide to do another
>> one, declare what contest mode will be used.
>> 
>> Neil, KN3ILZ 
> 
> 
> Yes!
> 
> I agree!
> 
> 
> But it is bad thing that wsjt-x switches from RTTY RU to EU VHF automatic if 
> it detects that kind of answer.
> Backwards it does not do it. It just reminds that mode should be switched to 
> RTTY RU. But that needs user action via settings/advanced.
> 
> 
> And EU VHF is, I think, a little tested mode.  It is so unstabile.
> I did some UDP message testings a while ago with ft8sim and small mistakes 
> made wsjt-x crash with EU VHF. Mistakes means pressing wrong button at wrong 
> time. Sometimes crash kills also whole xwindow (LXDE) at same go.
> All other modes allow all kind of operations, but EU VHF is very sensible. 
> Everything must go in right order.
> 
> 
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> OH1KH
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices

2019-04-14 Thread Saku

Neil Zampella kirjoitti 14.4.2019 klo 6.49:

That is something they will need to change if they decide to do another
one, declare what contest mode will be used.

Neil, KN3ILZ 



Yes!

I agree!


But it is bad thing that wsjt-x switches from RTTY RU to EU VHF 
automatic if it detects that kind of answer.
Backwards it does not do it. It just reminds that mode should be 
switched to RTTY RU. But that needs user action via settings/advanced.



And EU VHF is, I think, a little tested mode.  It is so unstabile.
I did some UDP message testings a while ago with ft8sim and small 
mistakes made wsjt-x crash with EU VHF. Mistakes means pressing wrong 
button at wrong time. Sometimes crash kills also whole xwindow (LXDE) at 
same go.
All other modes allow all kind of operations, but EU VHF is very 
sensible. Everything must go in right order.



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OH1KH



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