[wsjt-devel] Editing the UI
Hello, This is my first post to the group, I hope my excesses will be excused. I want to fit the user interface into an 800x480 display of the raspberry pi. I suppose an easy way to do this is to edit the ui files and cramp up the controls closer. What is the recommended way to do this? Is there a particular editor like the qtdesigner that should be used? I am not sure that editing it on vi is the way to go. - f ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] #Echo Echo shifts TX frequency when clicking "Set RX & TX offset" - should be disabled
Hi Joe, In that case shouldn’t be there an indicator as in the other modes on the wide graph as to where the TX tone is? It looks more of a bug than a feature right now. The documentation let me to believe that the 1500Hz was an immovable object when in Echo mode. :-) It isn't and I really did not know where it was. It was also not clear that it carried over from where it was left in the previous mode. I think the documentation should clarify this. Enabling the red TX indicator like in the other modes is extra work, but would be the clearest way to indicate what’s happening. Thanks for clarifying! 73, Andreas, N6NU > On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > Hi Andreas, > > On 8/3/2023 3:16 PM, Andreas Junge N6NU via wsjt-devel wrote: > >> It works fine when I right click on 1500Hz in the wide graphs or when 1500 >> was selected in the previous mode. > > Yes. That's exactly what it's supposed to do. > > We could, of course, force the TxFreq setting to 1500 Hz when you select Echo > mode. We chose not to do this because because it could lead to unexpected > side effects when you switch back from Echo mode to (say) Q65-60C mode. > > -- 73, Joe, K1JT > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] #Echo Echo shifts TX frequency when clicking "Set RX & TX offset" - should be disabled
Hi Andreas, On 8/3/2023 3:16 PM, Andreas Junge N6NU via wsjt-devel wrote: It works fine when I right click on 1500Hz in the wide graphs or when 1500 was selected in the previous mode. Yes. That's exactly what it's supposed to do. We could, of course, force the TxFreq setting to 1500 Hz when you select Echo mode. We chose not to do this because because it could lead to unexpected side effects when you switch back from Echo mode to (say) Q65-60C mode. -- 73, Joe, K1JT ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] #Echo Echo shifts TX frequency when clicking "Set RX & TX offset" - should be disabled
I can duplicate the behavior here with my Apache 7000 and Thetis. Using RC2 here. Both the Tune button and Enable Tx follow the 500hz offsets. Both Fake It and Rig Split behave this way. Split=None works correctly. Mike W9MDB On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 03:13:30 PM CDT, Andreas Junge via wsjt-devel wrote: Joe, Yes, I have read it. I also read Bob's (KA1GT) article. Please have a look at this short recorded screen session: https://icecreamapps.com/v/fkkg3dt Either right-clicking into the wide graph and setting the offset - which should not work since it should be fixed to 1500- or by previously being in Q65 with an offset will cause this. It follows the pattern of @0-500 offset will subtract 1500Hz, @501-1000 will subtract 1000Hz, @1001-1500 will subtract 500Hz and so on until +1500Hz I think this feature is used to keep the tones in the middle of the TX passband, but it also requires a frequency shift of the generated tone which does not happen because it's set to a fixed 1500Hz. In short, yes, there should not be a frequency shift on TX in the first place and that is a bug IMHO. I enabled logging for the rig transactions and the radio is indeed commanded to go to the wrong offset on VFO B it should be 144065000. rig_set_split_freq called vfo=VFOB, curr_vfo=VFOA, tx_freq=144064000 It works fine when I right click on 1500Hz in the wide graphs or when 1500 was selected in the previous mode. 73, Andreas, N6NU On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 11:45 AM Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > Have you read the full-length paper about Echo mode in WSJT-X 2.6.0 and > later? See item #34 in the list of WSJT-related references here: > https://wsjt.sourceforge.io/refs.html . > > As described there, in Echo mode the transmitted audio-frequency tone > should always be 1500 Hz. > > -- 73, Joe, K1JT > > On 8/2/2023 10:47 AM, Andreas Junge via wsjt-devel wrote: >> I posted my initial question on the groups.io list as well, but Charlie, >> DL3WDG suggested to post it here as well. >> >> This is reproducible. In Echo Mode right click in the Wide Graph and select >> “Set RX & TX Offset” it seems to change the TX. >> >> Steps: >> - In the radio settings set "Split Mode" to Radio or Fake (No difference) >> - Select "Echo Mode" >> - Select 23 cm -> 1296.065 (Default) >> - Select Doppler Tracking mode to "Own Echo" >> - Display shows 1296.065 +/- My Doppler >> - Enable TX >> - The frequency will initially show 1296.06500 and the immediately change to >> 1296.064500 >> - On RX the frequency goes back to the correct 1296.06500 +/- Doppler >> - The Echoes will be shown at the @1000 offset and not @1500, which is >> expected, but wrong. >> >> After a few tries I found that selecting “Set RX & TX Offset” in the Wide >> Graph >> >> If I click on @1000 I get 64.5000, @1500 65., @2000 65.5000 >> >> The audio should be fixed at @1500 and the Set RX & TX feature should be >> ignored. >> >> I think this if half of the feature that keeps the audio in the sweet spot >> of the bandpass? However, it does not do the necessary 2nd step of shifting >> the audio to adjust for it. >> >> 73, Andreas, N6NU >> >> ___ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] #Echo Echo shifts TX frequency when clicking "Set RX & TX offset" - should be disabled
Joe, Yes, I have read it. I also read Bob's (KA1GT) article. Please have a look at this short recorded screen session: https://icecreamapps.com/v/fkkg3dt Either right-clicking into the wide graph and setting the offset - which should not work since it should be fixed to 1500- or by previously being in Q65 with an offset will cause this. It follows the pattern of @0-500 offset will subtract 1500Hz, @501-1000 will subtract 1000Hz, @1001-1500 will subtract 500Hz and so on until +1500Hz I think this feature is used to keep the tones in the middle of the TX passband, but it also requires a frequency shift of the generated tone which does not happen because it's set to a fixed 1500Hz. In short, yes, there should not be a frequency shift on TX in the first place and that is a bug IMHO. I enabled logging for the rig transactions and the radio is indeed commanded to go to the wrong offset on VFO B it should be 144065000. rig_set_split_freq called vfo=VFOB, curr_vfo=VFOA, tx_freq=144064000 It works fine when I right click on 1500Hz in the wide graphs or when 1500 was selected in the previous mode. 73, Andreas, N6NU On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 11:45 AM Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > Have you read the full-length paper about Echo mode in WSJT-X 2.6.0 and > later? See item #34 in the list of WSJT-related references here: > https://wsjt.sourceforge.io/refs.html . > > As described there, in Echo mode the transmitted audio-frequency tone > should always be 1500 Hz. > > -- 73, Joe, K1JT > > On 8/2/2023 10:47 AM, Andreas Junge via wsjt-devel wrote: > > I posted my initial question on the groups.io list as well, but > Charlie, DL3WDG suggested to post it here as well. > > > > This is reproducible. In Echo Mode right click in the Wide Graph and > select “Set RX & TX Offset” it seems to change the TX. > > > > Steps: > > - In the radio settings set "Split Mode" to Radio or Fake (No difference) > > - Select "Echo Mode" > > - Select 23 cm -> 1296.065 (Default) > > - Select Doppler Tracking mode to "Own Echo" > > - Display shows 1296.065 +/- My Doppler > > - Enable TX > > - The frequency will initially show 1296.06500 and the immediately > change to 1296.064500 > > - On RX the frequency goes back to the correct 1296.06500 +/- Doppler > > - The Echoes will be shown at the @1000 offset and not @1500, which is > expected, but wrong. > > > > After a few tries I found that selecting “Set RX & TX Offset” in the > Wide Graph > > > > If I click on @1000 I get 64.5000, @1500 65., @2000 65.5000 > > > > The audio should be fixed at @1500 and the Set RX & TX feature should be > ignored. > > > > I think this if half of the feature that keeps the audio in the sweet > spot of the bandpass? However, it does not do the necessary 2nd step of > shifting the audio to adjust for it. > > > > 73, Andreas, N6NU > > > > ___ > > wsjt-devel mailing list > > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] #Echo Echo shifts TX frequency when clicking "Set RX & TX offset" - should be disabled
Hi Andreas, Have you read the full-length paper about Echo mode in WSJT-X 2.6.0 and later? See item #34 in the list of WSJT-related references here: https://wsjt.sourceforge.io/refs.html . As described there, in Echo mode the transmitted audio-frequency tone should always be 1500 Hz. -- 73, Joe, K1JT On 8/2/2023 10:47 AM, Andreas Junge via wsjt-devel wrote: I posted my initial question on the groups.io list as well, but Charlie, DL3WDG suggested to post it here as well. This is reproducible. In Echo Mode right click in the Wide Graph and select “Set RX & TX Offset” it seems to change the TX. Steps: - In the radio settings set "Split Mode" to Radio or Fake (No difference) - Select "Echo Mode" - Select 23 cm -> 1296.065 (Default) - Select Doppler Tracking mode to "Own Echo" - Display shows 1296.065 +/- My Doppler - Enable TX - The frequency will initially show 1296.06500 and the immediately change to 1296.064500 - On RX the frequency goes back to the correct 1296.06500 +/- Doppler - The Echoes will be shown at the @1000 offset and not @1500, which is expected, but wrong. After a few tries I found that selecting “Set RX & TX Offset” in the Wide Graph If I click on @1000 I get 64.5000, @1500 65., @2000 65.5000 The audio should be fixed at @1500 and the Set RX & TX feature should be ignored. I think this if half of the feature that keeps the audio in the sweet spot of the bandpass? However, it does not do the necessary 2nd step of shifting the audio to adjust for it. 73, Andreas, N6NU ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
