Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-10-01 Thread Robert Dinse 


 It broke for me when I upgraded to 28.

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, Mike Gabriel wrote:


Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:43:45 +
From: Mike Gabriel 
To: Robert Dinse 
Cc: Neal Becker , x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
...

On  Do 27 Sep 2018 23:11:25 CEST, Robert Dinse wrote:


Well, with Fedora 28, KDE is just a back screen


Same here, too. Seeing it on Debian testing and (!) on Debian stretch, too.

On Debian stretch, things used to work well with X2Go + KDE5. Regarding 
Debian's conservative release policy, this smells like we changed something 
in X2Go, maybe, too.


Although, this doesn't explain, why KDE5 from Fedora 27 was working ok for 
Robert.


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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-10-01 Thread Stefan Baur 
Am 01.10.2018 um 16:43 schrieb Mike Gabriel:
> 
> On Debian stretch, things used to work well with X2Go + KDE5. Regarding
> Debian's conservative release policy, this smells like we changed
> something in X2Go, maybe, too.

There's snapshot.debian.org and we have timestamped stable and heuler
repos, too.  So if anyone wants to take a closer look at when it broke
again, after "almost" working on Debian, this might help - pick a
timestamp where you believe it was working to install a basic Debian
system with X2GoServer, then step forward day by day and check which
packages got updated.

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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-10-01 Thread Mike Gabriel 

On  Do 27 Sep 2018 23:11:25 CEST, Robert Dinse wrote:


Well, with Fedora 28, KDE is just a back screen


Same here, too. Seeing it on Debian testing and (!) on Debian stretch, too.

On Debian stretch, things used to work well with X2Go + KDE5.  
Regarding Debian's conservative release policy, this smells like we  
changed something in X2Go, maybe, too.


Although, this doesn't explain, why KDE5 from Fedora 27 was working ok  
for Robert.


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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-09-27 Thread Robert Dinse 


 Well, with Fedora 28, KDE is just a back screen, no plasma-theme
is available in the repositories and that is what I previously was using.

 Also previously working, now broken, is gnome.  No gnome-flashbck or 
gnome-session-flashback in the repositories.


 What is still working is LXQT and Mate.

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On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Robert Dinse wrote:


Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 04:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Dinse 
To: Neal Becker 
Cc: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
...


I have not upgraded to 28 yet, still on 27, so perhaps they broke
something.  I'll let you know after I upgrade.

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On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Neal Becker wrote:


Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:49:10 -0400
From: Neal Becker 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma 
support

...

Robert Dinse wrote:




  Just stock config.

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:55:22 -0600
From: Orion Poplawski 
To: Robert Dinse 
Cc: Stefan Baur ,
x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
[X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
...

Are you specifying any OPENGL rendering options or similar?  Or just
stock config?

On 09/25/2018 04:48 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:


KDE5/Plasma has been working fine over X2go for me.  Only issue I've had
is that on some machines the session terminate is not working, it just
restarts the session.

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:24:32 -0600
From: Orion Poplawski 
To: Stefan Baur ,
x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
[X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

On 08/10/2017 07:07 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:

Hi $LIST,

According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
This is a single report so far, though.

If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
highly appreciated.

Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.


I'm curious as to what other people are seeing with this these days.
With Fedora 28 plasma-desktop-5.13.4-1.fc28.x86_64 I'm still seeing
plasma shell and other apps crash trying to initialize GLX.


Just tried on fedora 28.  I get a black screen with messages about krunner
crashed.


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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-09-27 Thread Robert Dinse 


 I upgraded to Fedora 28, now KDE is broken for me as well.

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On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Robert Dinse wrote:


Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 04:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Dinse 
To: Neal Becker 
Cc: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
...


I have not upgraded to 28 yet, still on 27, so perhaps they broke
something.  I'll let you know after I upgrade.

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On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Neal Becker wrote:


Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:49:10 -0400
From: Neal Becker 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma 
support

...

Robert Dinse wrote:




  Just stock config.

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:55:22 -0600
From: Orion Poplawski 
To: Robert Dinse 
Cc: Stefan Baur ,
x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
[X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
...

Are you specifying any OPENGL rendering options or similar?  Or just
stock config?

On 09/25/2018 04:48 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:


KDE5/Plasma has been working fine over X2go for me.  Only issue I've had
is that on some machines the session terminate is not working, it just
restarts the session.

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:24:32 -0600
From: Orion Poplawski 
To: Stefan Baur ,
x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
[X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

On 08/10/2017 07:07 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:

Hi $LIST,

According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
This is a single report so far, though.

If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
highly appreciated.

Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.


I'm curious as to what other people are seeing with this these days.
With Fedora 28 plasma-desktop-5.13.4-1.fc28.x86_64 I'm still seeing
plasma shell and other apps crash trying to initialize GLX.


Just tried on fedora 28.  I get a black screen with messages about krunner
crashed.


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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-09-27 Thread Paul Borowicz 
I've been using opensuse 15 with kde 5. I had some problems with the KDE
desktop at first, but it seems to work fine now.

Occasionally I get a weird issue where firefox won't render anything, just
a blank page. I have a bug in with mozilla, but I can't replicate it
although it's happened 2 or 3 times, working fine on a local session, but
not via x2go until I downgrade.

Paul

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:53 AM Robert Dinse  wrote:

>
>   I have not upgraded to 28 yet, still on 27, so perhaps they broke
> something.  I'll let you know after I upgrade.
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> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Neal Becker wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:49:10 -0400
> > From: Neal Becker 
> > To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
> > Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma
> support
> > ...
> >
> > Robert Dinse wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>   Just stock config.
> >>
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> >> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:55:22 -0600
> >>> From: Orion Poplawski 
> >>> To: Robert Dinse 
> >>> Cc: Stefan Baur ,
> >>> x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
> >>> [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> Are you specifying any OPENGL rendering options or similar?  Or just
> >>> stock config?
> >>>
> >>> On 09/25/2018 04:48 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> KDE5/Plasma has been working fine over X2go for me.  Only issue I've
> had
> >>>> is that on some machines the session terminate is not working, it just
> >>>> restarts the session.
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> >>>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:24:32 -0600
> >>>>> From: Orion Poplawski 
> >>>>> To: Stefan Baur ,
> >>>>> x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
> >>>>> [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 08/10/2017 07:07 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi $LIST,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
> >>>>>> Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work
> together.
> >>>>>> This is a single report so far, though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
> >>>>>> highly appreciated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if
> you
> >>>>>> use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm curious as to what other people are seeing with this these days.
> >>>>> With Fedora 28 plasma-desktop-5.13.4-1.fc28.x86_64 I'm still seeing
> >>>>> plasma shell and other apps crash trying to initialize GLX.
> >>>>>
> > Just tried on fedora 28.  I get a black screen with messages about
> krunner
> > crashed.
> >
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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-09-27 Thread Neal Becker 
Robert Dinse wrote:

> 
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> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> 
>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:55:22 -0600
>> From: Orion Poplawski 
>> To: Robert Dinse 
>> Cc: Stefan Baur ,
>> x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
>> [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
>> ...
>> 
>> Are you specifying any OPENGL rendering options or similar?  Or just
>> stock config?
>>
>> On 09/25/2018 04:48 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:
>>>
>>> KDE5/Plasma has been working fine over X2go for me.  Only issue I've had
>>> is that on some machines the session terminate is not working, it just
>>> restarts the session.
>>>
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>>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:24:32 -0600
>>>> From: Orion Poplawski 
>>>> To: Stefan Baur ,
>>>> x2go-user@lists.x2go.org Subject: Re:
>>>> [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/2017 07:07 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:
>>>>> Hi $LIST,
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
>>>>> Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
>>>>> This is a single report so far, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
>>>>> highly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
>>>>> use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious as to what other people are seeing with this these days. 
>>>> With Fedora 28 plasma-desktop-5.13.4-1.fc28.x86_64 I'm still seeing
>>>> plasma shell and other apps crash trying to initialize GLX.
>>>>
Just tried on fedora 28.  I get a black screen with messages about krunner 
crashed.


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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-09-25 Thread Robert Dinse 


 KDE5/Plasma has been working fine over X2go for me.  Only issue I've had
is that on some machines the session terminate is not working, it just restarts
the session.

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, Orion Poplawski wrote:


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:24:32 -0600
From: Orion Poplawski 
To: Stefan Baur , x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support
...

On 08/10/2017 07:07 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:

Hi $LIST,

According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
This is a single report so far, though.

If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
highly appreciated.

Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.


I'm curious as to what other people are seeing with this these days.  With
Fedora 28 plasma-desktop-5.13.4-1.fc28.x86_64 I'm still seeing plasma shell
and other apps crash trying to initialize GLX.

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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-09-25 Thread Orion Poplawski 
On 08/10/2017 07:07 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:
> Hi $LIST,
> 
> According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
> Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
> This is a single report so far, though.
> 
> If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
> highly appreciated.
> 
> Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
> use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.

I'm curious as to what other people are seeing with this these days.  With
Fedora 28 plasma-desktop-5.13.4-1.fc28.x86_64 I'm still seeing plasma shell
and other apps crash trying to initialize GLX.

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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2018-01-15 Thread Tristan Miller 
Greetings.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 03:07:27 +0200, Stefan Baur
 wrote:
> Hi $LIST,
> 
> According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
> Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
> This is a single report so far, though.
> 
> If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
> highly appreciated.

I already reported (back in January 2017) that KDE5/Plasma apps
"mostly" work with the stable releases of X2Go when run as single
applications.  By "mostly" I mean that repainting tends to be very
slow.  Even applications that draw only text (such as Konsole and
KWrite) are far too slow to use comfortably.  Even running them over a
raw SSH connection is faster!  By contrast, GTK+ applications are nice
and fast.

Another problem with running KDE applications remotely is that many
toolbar icons don't get drawn (being replaced with text labels), though
this problem isn't unique to X2Go; it also occurs with vanilla SSH.

The situation is the same today.

Regards,
Tristan

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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2017-08-13 Thread Neal Becker 
Stefan Baur wrote:

> Hi $LIST,
> 
> According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
> Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
> This is a single report so far, though.
> 
> If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
> highly appreciated.
> 
> Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
> use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Stefan Baur
> 

I just tried on fedora f26 and kde did seem to work, other than being 
extremely slow to start, and issuing a few warning messages (which I don't 
know if they are x2go-related)

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Re: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Dinse 


 I have the nightly builds not the stable but I can confirm that it works
with KDE5/Plasma on Debian as I just tried it reading this.  At first I got
black screen and I thought nope same old same old, but it was just KDE is much
slower to start than Mate.  Once it did start it worked fine.

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On Fri, 11 Aug 2017, Stefan Baur wrote:


Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 03:07:27 +0200
From: Stefan Baur 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: [X2Go-User] It might be that we already have KDE5/Plasma support ...

Hi $LIST,

According to Mike#1, who currently attends DebConf in Montreal,
Debian 9 + X2Go Stable + KDE5/Plasma have been shown to work together.
This is a single report so far, though.

If anyone is willing and able to test and confirm this, it would be
highly appreciated.

Another test result we'd be interested in would be what happens if you
use Arctica NX-Libs and X2Go Heuler instead of X2Go Stable.

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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