Re: [xbiblio-devel] Title-case questions

2015-11-15 Thread Nick Bart
I agree: neither parentheses (nor [] or {}, for that matter), nor quotes (plain or curly, single or double), nor HTML-like markup should disable conversion to title case. On 15 November 2015 at 06:04, Frank Bennett wrote: > Sounds good. That was my question on that one. >

Re: [xbiblio-devel] Title-case questions

2015-11-15 Thread Rintze Zelle
I do think italics and small-caps (and possibly superscript/subscript too) markup should disable title casing. Example: L-Malic acid formation by immobilized Saccharomyces cerevisiae amplified for fumarase http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/0141-0229(91)90122-Q "L-Malic acid" starts with an all-caps

Re: [xbiblio-devel] CSL Agenda 2016

2015-11-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-11-15, 02:28 GMT, Rintze Zelle wrote: > Matěj, what do you mean exactly with "update > gmane.text.xml.xbiblio.devel"? Update how? I mean if the list is moved somewhere else, somebody should let gmane.org people know so they can retarget their server from reading the new list. Just that

Re: [xbiblio-devel] Title-case questions

2015-11-15 Thread Nick Bart
Yes, definitely. Since there is no mechanism to explicitly force uppercase, the titlecaser needs to be inclusive by default, and we must be able to selectively suppress capitalisation where it is incorrect. `` markup, e.g., `The Arabidopsis lyrata genome sequence and the basis of rapid genome

Re: [xbiblio-devel] Title-case questions

2015-11-15 Thread Sebastian Karcher
Thanks Frank! >("explicit is better than implicit"). was exactly my thinking wrt casing and rich text, so very much agree with you on that. On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Frank Bennett wrote: > Thanks to all for the feedback. > > Disabling of no-case in quoted text is

Re: [xbiblio-devel] CSL Agenda 2016

2015-11-15 Thread Rintze Zelle
Ah, okay. We'll keep it in mind if we start hosting the mailing list elsewhere, although if we switch to a more forum-based platform like Discourse that most probably wouldn't work. I'll also contact Gmane regarding importing the pre-2011 emails (we can grab those directly from SourceForge as an

Re: [xbiblio-devel] Title-case questions

2015-11-15 Thread Frank Bennett
Thanks to all for the feedback. Disabling of no-case in quoted text is now available for testing in the latest citeproc-js release, and in the Propachi plugins for Zotero: https://bitbucket.org/fbennett/citeproc-js/src https://juris-m.github.io/downloads/#csl-stuff The i, b, sc, sub,

Re: [xbiblio-devel] Title-case questions

2015-11-15 Thread Sebastian Karcher
That's getting rather tricky and we're hitting the limits of what simple rich text markup can do: For species, Rintze is correct: - Lowercase the second part of a species name, such as *fulvescens* in *Acipenser fulvescens*, even if it is the last word in a title or subtitle. but that's not the

Re: [xbiblio-devel] CSL Agenda 2016

2015-11-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-11-15, 02:28 GMT, Rintze Zelle wrote: > Also, is there any particular reason you're attached to the > Gmane archive? Also, I am not attached to the gmane as archive per se (although it would be probably worthy to include into gmane.org the rest of the archive as well …