Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Sun, May 6, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: > OK, done now. Thanks! By digging into that, I confirmed that Federico is the sole author of the file manager interface spec that kicked off this discussion. A couple of people, myself included, have adjusted formatting since the transition

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Sun, May 6, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Stone wrote: > The wiki doesn't run on MoinMoin anymore. All the wiki content is I'm trying to get the history - a lot of the wiki pages in the current system were converted from moin, so that old data is needed to try to work out who wrote them. Sorry

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi, On 5 May 2018 at 18:50, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > I have found where the Moinmoin data is located > (/srv/www.freedesktop.org/moin/data on annarchy.freedesktop.org). Could > someone add me (takluyver) to the www-data group so I can investigate it > further? Or you

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Simon Lees
On 06/05/18 21:25, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, May 06, 2018 05:49:15 AM Simon Lees wrote: >> if I wrote anything on the wiki which I don't think I did I would be >> more then happy for it to be relicensed under a BSD/MIT style license >> but would be less happy to allow because I

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, May 06, 2018 05:49:15 AM Simon Lees wrote: > if I wrote anything on the wiki which I don't think I did I would be > more then happy for it to be relicensed under a BSD/MIT style license > but would be less happy to allow because I don't think its the right > license for the task. allow

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Simon Lees
On 06/05/18 20:06, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Simon Lees wrote: >> The only way that I think we can realistically make the wiki situation >> better is by changing it now to say new changes are under the following >> license, then in 10 years hope that enough of the

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Sun, May 6, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Simon Lees wrote: > The only way that I think we can realistically make the wiki situation > better is by changing it now to say new changes are under the following > license, then in 10 years hope that enough of the content has been > changed that someone can

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Simon Lees
On 06/05/18 17:40, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Simon Lees wrote: >> Anyone >> who goes to the effort of editing a wiki knows and acknowledges that the >> content they have produced will be displayed on the wiki in its current >> form and are therefore giving

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Sun, May 6, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Simon Lees wrote: > Anyone > who goes to the effort of editing a wiki knows and acknowledges that the > content they have produced will be displayed on the wiki in its current > form and are therefore giving permission for the content they have > created to be

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-06 Thread Simon Lees
On 06/05/18 02:30, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > I also stole about 30 sheets of toilet paper from a hotel a few weeks ago. > Please, someone explain property law to me! > > More seriously, it's clear that my proposed solution is not going to fly, > because we're taking copyright Very Seriously.

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-05 Thread Thomas Kluyver
I have found where the Moinmoin data is located (/srv/www.freedesktop.org/moin/data on annarchy.freedesktop.org). Could someone add me (takluyver) to the www-data group so I can investigate it further? Or you could make all that data world-readable. On Sat, May 5, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Thomas

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-05 Thread Thomas Kluyver
I also stole about 30 sheets of toilet paper from a hotel a few weeks ago. Please, someone explain property law to me! More seriously, it's clear that my proposed solution is not going to fly, because we're taking copyright Very Seriously. Since we are taking copyright Very Seriously, there

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-05-05 Thread Thomas U . Grüttmüller
On 13.04.2018 13:11, Thomas Kluyver wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:> This isn't how copyright works, sorry. Thanks, I was aware of this. No, it doesn't strictly adhere to 'how copyright works', but realistically, people who contribute to a freely available

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-13 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2018-04-13 at 11:40 +0100, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Sorry for the lack of reply, I've been quite busy lately. I also > > don't > > have a great answer for you. We cannot post-hoc enforce a licence > > on > > content: anything that

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-13 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:> > This isn't how copyright works, sorry. Thanks, I was aware of this. No, it doesn't strictly adhere to 'how copyright works', but realistically, people who contribute to a freely available wiki about open source software are not going

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-13 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Stone wrote: > Sorry for the lack of reply, I've been quite busy lately. I also don't > have a great answer for you. We cannot post-hoc enforce a licence on > content: anything that is there is copyright to the actual author. We > can enforce a licence on

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-13 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2018-04-13 at 11:11 +0200, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > It would be great if anyone could help me get into contact with the > > original > > author of https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/file-mana > > ger-interface > > . Besides, I believe setting up a default license for > >

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-13 Thread Daniel Stone
Hi Boyuan, On 13 April 2018 at 03:03, Boyuan Yang <073p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Several weeks have passed and seems that there's no progress here; the mail > copy sent to original discussion participants got no replies and one of the > email address also bounces. Sorry for the lack of reply, I've

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-13 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, at 2:03 AM, Boyuan Yang wrote: > Several weeks have passed and seems that there's no progress here; the mail > copy sent to original discussion participants got no replies and one of the > email address also bounces. I get the impression that no-one really feels ownership

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-04-12 Thread Boyuan Yang
Hello all, Several weeks have passed and seems that there's no progress here; the mail copy sent to original discussion participants got no replies and one of the email address also bounces. It would be great if anyone could help me get into contact with the original author of

Re: Consider adding license information to freedesktop.org wiki contents?

2018-03-22 Thread Thomas Kluyver
+1 to having a default license for the wiki contents. Code samples in a wiki are often meant to be copied and pasted, so it seems appropriate to license them permissively, like an MIT license, or even public domain. I don't feel strongly about the non-code content, but CC-BY would be an easy