Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread NathanStuder
On 11/02/2017 01:34 PM, George Dunlap wrote: > On 10/27/2017 04:09 PM, NathanStuder wrote: >> >> >> On 10/09/2017 10:14 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen wrote: On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread George Dunlap
On 10/27/2017 04:09 PM, NathanStuder wrote: > > > On 10/09/2017 10:14 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: >> >>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: [Cc-list modified by removing someone and

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 10:46:20AM +, George Dunlap wrote: > On 11/01/2017 05:10 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk > >> wrote: > +###

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-02 Thread George Dunlap
On 11/01/2017 05:10 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk >> wrote: +### Soft-reset for PV guests >>> >>> s/PV/HVM/ >> >> Is it? I thought this was

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-01 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk > wrote: > >> +### Soft-reset for PV guests > > > > s/PV/HVM/ > > Is it? I thought this was for RHEL 5 PV guests to be able to do crash > kernels. >

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-01 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/12/2017 08:52 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> +### Xen Framebuffer >>> + >>> +Status, Linux: Supported >> >> Frontend? > > Yes, please. If you write "Xen Framebuffer" I only take it to mean the > protocol as should be documented somewhere under docs/. Then I read > Linux, and I don't

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-11-01 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/12/2017 11:39 AM, Roger Pau Monné wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >> +## Toolstack >> + >> +### xl >> + >> +Status: Supported >> + >> +### Direct-boot kernel image format >> + >> +Supported, x86: bzImage > > ELF > >> +Supported, ARM32:

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-27 Thread NathanStuder
On 10/09/2017 10:14 AM, Lars Kurth wrote: > >> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >>> [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] >>> >>> On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-26 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 26/10/17 10:19, Jan Beulich wrote: On 25.10.17 at 13:30, wrote: >> On 25/10/17 11:59, George Dunlap wrote: > +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 > +Limit, ARM32: 8 > +Limit, ARM64: 128 > + > +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-26 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 25.10.17 at 13:30, wrote: > On 25/10/17 11:59, George Dunlap wrote: +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 +Limit, ARM32: 8 +Limit, ARM64: 128 + +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add "Limit-Security" here for some of

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-25 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 25/10/17 11:59, George Dunlap wrote: >>> +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 >>> +Limit, ARM32: 8 >>> +Limit, ARM64: 128 >>> + >>> +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add "Limit-Security" here for some of >>> these?] >> 32 for each. 64 vcpu HVM guests can excerpt enough

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-25 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 24/10/17 11:27, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 10/23/2017 06:55 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >>> On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 11/09/17 18:01, George

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread George Dunlap
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >> +### Soft-reset for PV guests > > s/PV/HVM/ Is it? I thought this was for RHEL 5 PV guests to be able to do crash kernels. >> +### Transcendent Memory >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +[XXX Add

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Rich Persaud wrote: >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 13:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> +### XSM & FLASK >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +Compile time disabled >> + >> +### XSM & FLASK support for IS_PRIV >> + >> +

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 24/10/17 11:27, George Dunlap wrote: > On 10/23/2017 06:55 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >> On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: >>> On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: > +### x86/RAM > + > +Limit, x86: 16TiB > +Limit,

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 23/10/2017 18:55, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: +Limit, x86 HVM: 128 +Limit, ARM32: 8 +Limit, ARM64: 128 + +[XXX Andrew Cooper: Do want to add

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-24 Thread George Dunlap
On 10/23/2017 06:55 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: >> On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >>> On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: +### x86/RAM + +Limit, x86: 16TiB +Limit, ARM32: 16GiB +Limit, ARM64: 5TiB +

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-23 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Andrew Cooper wrote: > >>> +### x86 PV/Event Channels > >>> + > >>> +Limit: 131072 > >> Why do we call out event channel limits but not grant table limits? > >> Also, why is this x86? The 2l and fifo ABIs are arch agnostic, as far > >> as I am aware. > > Sure, but I'm

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-23 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 23/10/17 17:22, George Dunlap wrote: > On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >> On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: >>> +### x86/RAM >>> + >>> +Limit, x86: 16TiB >>> +Limit, ARM32: 16GiB >>> +Limit, ARM64: 5TiB >>> + >>> +[XXX: Andy to suggest what this should say for

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-23 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/11/2017 06:53 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> +### x86/PV >> + >> +Status: Supported >> + >> +Traditional Xen Project PV guest > > What's a "Xen Project" PV guest? Just Xen here. > > Also, a perhaps a statement of "No hardware requirements" ? OK.

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-09 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 27 Sep 2017, at 13:57, Robert VanVossen > wrote: > > > > On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: >> [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] >> >> On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Sep

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-10-09 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 12 Sep 2017, at 16:35, Rich Persaud wrote: > >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 13:01, George Dunlap wrote: >> >> +### XSM & FLASK >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +Compile time disabled >> + >> +### XSM & FLASK support for IS_PRIV >> + >> +

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-27 Thread Robert VanVossen
On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] > > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: >>> +### RTDS based Scheduler >>> + >>> +Status: Experimental >>> + >>>

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-27 Thread Dario Faggioli
On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 08:57 -0400, Robert VanVossen wrote: > On 9/26/2017 3:12 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote: > > [Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] > > > > Actually, the best candidate for gaining security support, is IMO > > ARINC. Code is also rather simple and "stable"

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-26 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/26/2017 12:10 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: >> +### RTDS based Scheduler >> + >> +Status: Experimental >> + >> +A soft real-time CPU scheduler built to provide guaranteed CPU capacity to >> guest VMs on SMP hosts >> + >> +### ARINC653

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-26 Thread Dario Faggioli
[Cc-list modified by removing someone and adding someone else] On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 16:10 -0700, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: > > +### RTDS based Scheduler > > + > > +Status: Experimental > > + > > +A soft real-time CPU scheduler built to provide

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-25 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, George Dunlap wrote: > +### RTDS based Scheduler > + > +Status: Experimental > + > +A soft real-time CPU scheduler built to provide guaranteed CPU capacity to > guest VMs on SMP hosts > + > +### ARINC653 Scheduler > + > +Status: Supported, Not security supported > + >

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-15 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> +### Soft-reset for PV guests s/PV/HVM/ > + > +Status: Supported > + > +Soft-reset allows a new kernel to start 'from scratch' with a fresh VM > state, > +but with all the memory from the previous state of the VM intact. > +This is primarily designed to allow "crash kernels", >

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 12/09/2017 20:52, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Roger Pau Monné wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: +## Scalability + +### 1GB/2MB super page support + +Status: Supported This needs something like: Status, x86 HVM/PVH: Supported

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Roger Pau Monné wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > > +## Toolstack > > + > > +### xl > > + > > +Status: Supported > > + > > +### Direct-boot kernel image format > > + > > +Supported, x86: bzImage > > ELF > > > +Supported,

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Rich Persaud
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 13:01, George Dunlap wrote: > > +### XSM & FLASK > + > +Status: Experimental > + > +Compile time disabled > + > +### XSM & FLASK support for IS_PRIV > + > +Status: Experimental In which specific areas is XSM lacking in Functional

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread George Dunlap
On 09/11/2017 06:01 PM, George Dunlap wrote: > Add a machine-readable file to describe what features are in what > state of being 'supported', as well as information about how long this > release will be supported, and so on. > > The document should be formatted using "semantic newlines" [1], to

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Roger Pau Monné
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:01:59PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote: > +## Toolstack > + > +### xl > + > +Status: Supported > + > +### Direct-boot kernel image format > + > +Supported, x86: bzImage ELF > +Supported, ARM32: zImage > +Supported, ARM64: Image > + > +Format which the

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Wei Liu
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:53:55PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote: > On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: > > +### x86/PV > > + > > +Status: Supported > > + > > +Traditional Xen Project PV guest > > What's a "Xen Project" PV guest? Just Xen here. > > Also, a perhaps a statement of "No

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-12 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 11.09.17 at 19:53, wrote: > As for practical limits, I don't think its reasonable to claim anything > which we can't test. What are the specs in the MA colo? I don't think the MA colo's limits ought to be the only ones applicable here, and it looks like you

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-11 Thread Juergen Gross
On 11/09/17 19:01, George Dunlap wrote: > Add a machine-readable file to describe what features are in what > state of being 'supported', as well as information about how long this > release will be supported, and so on. > > The document should be formatted using "semantic newlines" [1], to make

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md

2017-09-11 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 11/09/17 18:01, George Dunlap wrote: > +### x86/PV > + > +Status: Supported > + > +Traditional Xen Project PV guest What's a "Xen Project" PV guest? Just Xen here. Also, a perhaps a statement of "No hardware requirements" ? > +### x86/RAM > + > +Limit, x86: 16TiB > +Limit,