On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 02:13:08PM -0700, Gildas Hamel wrote:
I thank you for all the work, dedication, and grace you brought to
XeTeX. I'm an end user who barely understands how it all works. I keep
marveling at the wonders Xe(La)TeX and Lua(La)TeX typesetting allows
me to do daily.
I fully
On 28/04/2015 00:48, Douglas McKenna wrote:
That isn't at all clear, I don't see any evidence that the equivalent
#; notation in XML is getting less used. For runs of natural language
text then clearly using character data directly makes more sense
but to get specific symbols accessing
Hi all,
if you use para indentation=none looseness=1Something.../para you
are not using XML properly. The purpose of XML is to describe the structure
of a document, not its appearance. Generally you will print the information
from the XML file in a different order or you will print just a part of
Joseph Wright wrote:
On 27/04/2015 07:35, Philip Taylor wrote:
Going even further off-topic, but pursuing this one aspect of the
thread, is there not only real one problem : the need to educate users
to cease marking up their documents in raw (La)TeX syntax, and instead
to express them in
2015-04-27 16:40 GMT+02:00 Apostolos Syropoulos asyropou...@yahoo.com:
Many consider that JSON will eventually replace XML.
Only if JSON gets schemes.
http://json-schema.org/ exists, but is not widely used.
Best
Martin
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Joseph Wright wrote:
Somewhat away from the original topic, but it strikes me that building a
tagged PDF is going to be much more problematic at the macro layer than
at the engine level: is that fair? Deciding what elements of a document
are 'structure' is hard, and in 'real' documents it's
On 27/04/2015 00:22, Ross Moore wrote:
But of course that doesn't address the problem for LaTeXt users until
someone writes a suitable/comparable package (maybe someone did
already, I didn't try to follow).
I have coding for much of what is needed, using the modified pdfTeX.
But there is a
On 27/04/2015 08:43, Ross Moore wrote:
Hi Joseph,
On 27/04/2015, at 4:19 PM, Joseph Wright wrote:
On 27/04/2015 00:22, Ross Moore wrote:
But of course that doesn't address the problem for LaTeXt users until
someone writes a suitable/comparable package (maybe someone did
already, I didn't
On 27/04/2015 07:35, Philip Taylor wrote:
Going even further off-topic, but pursuing this one aspect of the
thread, is there not only real one problem : the need to educate users
to cease marking up their documents in raw (La)TeX syntax, and instead
to express them in well-formed XML ? I
Hi Joseph,
On 27/04/2015, at 4:19 PM, Joseph Wright wrote:
On 27/04/2015 00:22, Ross Moore wrote:
But of course that doesn't address the problem for LaTeXt users until
someone writes a suitable/comparable package (maybe someone did
already, I didn't try to follow).
I have coding for much
On 27/04/2015 01:05, Douglas McKenna wrote:
Joseph Wright wrote:
\def\{0}\expandafter\def\csname^00022\endcsname{1}
\ifnum\=0 \message{tex82}\else\message{newstuff}\fi
When I implemented a Unicode escape sequence extension using double-caret
notation in the JSBox TeX-language
On 27/04/2015 19:39, Philip Taylor wrote:
As to whether XML is a particularly good format not only here or for
anything, all I can say is that in my experience we (humanity, that is)
have not yet come up with anything better; LaTeX 2e, by explicitly
permitting the conflation of form and
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
If you want to describe the page layout in a structured way, the page
... /page markup might cause other mark up not well formed. Of course,
if the XML is for your own purpose, you can do anything. Even if it is
not suggested by XML experts, it may be helpful. And if
2015-04-27 15:00 GMT+02:00 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk:
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
If you want to describe the page layout in a structured way, the page
... /page markup might cause other mark up not well formed. Of course,
if the XML is for your own purpose, you can do anything. Even
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
Formatting advices should better be present in processing instructions.
You can type ?TeX something? ?HTML something else ? etc.
Why do you write better, Zdeněk ? They /can/ be expressed as
processing instructions, but that would require an augmented parser;
they can
2015-04-27 13:57 GMT+02:00 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk:
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
Formatting advices should better be present in processing instructions.
You can type ?TeX something? ?HTML something else ? etc.
Why do you write better, Zdeněk ? They /can/ be expressed as
processing
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
if you use para indentation=none looseness=1Something.../para
you are not using XML properly. The purpose of XML is to describe the
structure of a document, not its appearance.
Yes, the element describes the structure; attributes such as those
you quote in the example
2015-04-27 13:27 GMT+02:00 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk:
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
if you use para indentation=none looseness=1Something.../para
you are not using XML properly. The purpose of XML is to describe the
structure of a document, not its appearance.
Yes, the element
As to whether XML is a particularly good format not only here or for
anything, all I can say is that in my experience we (humanity, that is)
have not yet come up with anything better; LaTeX 2e, by explicitly
permitting the conflation of form and content, fails abysmally in this
respect
Ross Moore wrote -
On 27/04/2015, at 10:05 AM, Douglas McKenna wrote:
Given that the number of TeX input files using ^^u is likely miniscule, and
the number of those that follow the ^^u or ^^U with four or six hex digits
is even smaller, it seemed like a worthwhile benefit vs. cost,
On 27 April 2015 at 01:05, Douglas McKenna d...@mathemaesthetics.com
wrote:
Joseph Wright wrote:
\def\{0}\expandafter\def\csname^00022\endcsname{1}
\ifnum\=0 \message{tex82}\else\message{newstuff}\fi
When I implemented a Unicode escape sequence extension using double-caret
notation
David Carlisle wrote -
Introducing incompatible syntax for functionality shared across Unicode TeX
extensions
is a major headache for package authors. Please don't use this syntax!
Understood.
That isn't at all clear, I don't see any evidence that the equivalent #;
notation in XML
On 27 April 2015 at 23:41, Douglas McKenna d...@mathemaesthetics.com
wrote:
Ross Moore wrote -
On 27/04/2015, at 10:05 AM, Douglas McKenna wrote:
Given that the number of TeX input files using ^^u is likely miniscule,
and the number of those that follow the ^^u or ^^U with four or six
Hi all,
On 28/04/2015, at 0:40, Apostolos Syropoulos asyropou...@yahoo.com wrote:
As to whether XML is a particularly good format not only here or for
anything, all I can say is that in my experience we (humanity, that is)
have not yet come up with anything better; LaTeX 2e, by explicitly
On 26/04/2015 11:47, Philip Taylor wrote:
To my mind, XeTeX /is/ the future of TeX. The days of entering
français as fran\c cais are surely numbered, and it has never been
possible to enter العربية, ελληνικά or עברית (etc) in an analogous
way. Therefore, is it not time to petition the TUG
To my mind, XeTeX /is/ the future of TeX. The days of entering
français as fran\c cais are surely numbered, and it has never been
possible to enter العربية, ελληνικά or עברית (etc) in an analogous
way. Therefore, is it not time to petition the TUG Board to adopt XeTeX
as a formal TUG project,
Joseph Wright wrote:
See for example details in
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/86/what-are-the-incompatibilities-of-pdftex-xetex-and-luatex
for places where there are edge cases. The most obvious would be that
XeTeX requires the xdvipdfmx back-end (so differences at the \special
بارك الله فيك أخي خالد...
2015-04-26 13:08 UTC+01:00, Jonathan Kew jfkth...@gmail.com:
On 25/4/15 18:31, Khaled Hosny wrote:
Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I’ll be no longer able to
work on XeTeX, so I’m stepping down as a maintainer.
Regards,
Khaled
Many thanks, Khaled, for
Joseph Wright wrote:
The problem as always is not so much money as people.
Yes, I do appreciate that, but sometimes money is also an obstacle (do
I work on X, which will help keep a roof over my head, or on XeTeX,
which may bring me fame but which may also result in my eviction ?).
[Also,
Joseph Wright wrote:
The problem is that WEB code is *hard* to work with!
Some would argue (and I am one of them) that it was far easier before
Web2C became involved ... But now we digress, so please do not feel
obliged to respond.
** Phil.
On 25/4/15 18:31, Khaled Hosny wrote:
Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I’ll be no longer able to
work on XeTeX, so I’m stepping down as a maintainer.
Regards,
Khaled
Many thanks, Khaled, for all you've done over the past few years to
maintain and improve XeTeX. Your contribution
Thank you, Khaled, for all you've done.
Dominik Wujastyk
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1090 Vienna, Austria
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Adjunct Professor,
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On 26/04/2015 12:16, Philip Taylor wrote:
Joseph Wright wrote:
See for example details in
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/86/what-are-the-incompatibilities-of-pdftex-xetex-and-luatex
for places where there are edge cases. The most obvious would be that
XeTeX requires the
On 26/04/2015 12:00, Philip Taylor wrote:
Joseph Wright wrote:
The problem as always is not so much money as people.
Yes, I do appreciate that, but sometimes money is also an obstacle (do
I work on X, which will help keep a roof over my head, or on XeTeX,
which may bring me fame but
Hi Mojca,
On 27 Apr 2015, at 6:53 am, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com
mailto:mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Ross Moore wrote:
No standard TeX implementation currently comes close to producing Tagged PDF.
ConTeXt MkIV does:
I'd like to add a voice of support to Philip's suggestion about petitioning
the TUG Board to adopt XeTeX as a formal TUG project. To be honest, I was
startled that it doesn't already have such recognition. There's a big
community of us using XeTeX and it really should be close to the heart of
Joseph Wright wrote:
\def\{0}\expandafter\def\csname^00022\endcsname{1}
\ifnum\=0 \message{tex82}\else\message{newstuff}\fi
When I implemented a Unicode escape sequence extension using double-caret
notation in the JSBox TeX-language interpreter I've been working on (which is
all 21-bit
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Ross Moore wrote:
No standard TeX implementation currently comes close to producing Tagged PDF.
ConTeXt MkIV does:
https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-3/tb99hagen.pdf
But of course that doesn't address the problem for LaTeXt users until
someone writes a
Hi all,
On 26/04/2015, at 20:51, Joseph Wright joseph.wri...@morningstar2.co.uk wrote:
On 26/04/2015 11:47, Philip Taylor wrote:
To my mind, XeTeX /is/ the future of TeX. The days of entering
français as fran\c cais are surely numbered, and it has never been
possible to enter العربية,
Hi Doug,
On 27/04/2015, at 10:05 AM, Douglas McKenna wrote:
Given that the number of TeX input files using ^^u is likely miniscule, and
the number of those that follow the ^^u or ^^U with four or six hex digits is
even smaller, it seemed like a worthwhile benefit vs. cost,
* Skriv a reas Khaled Hosny (khaledho...@eglug.org):
| Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I’ll be no longer able to
| work on XeTeX, so I’m stepping down as a maintainer.
|
| Regards,
| Khaled
I thank you for all the work, dedication, and grace you brought to XeTeX. I'm
Dear Khaled,
Your efforts have been deeply appreciated. I can only imagine the time
this must have cost.
Best wishes in your other endeavours!
K
On 2015-04-25, 13:31, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote:
Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I¹ll be no longer able to
work on XeTeX,
Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I’ll be no longer able to
work on XeTeX, so I’m stepping down as a maintainer.
Regards,
Khaled
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On 25 April 2015 at 18:31, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org wrote:
Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I’ll be no longer able to
work on XeTeX, so I’m stepping down as a maintainer.
Regards,
Khaled
Khaled,
thanks for all your work on this.
I have a horrible feeling that my
Thanks Khaled for all your hard work. I am really grateful to you for the
effort you put in.
I am also interested in working on xetex as a maintainer.
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