m now! Thanks a lot :)
If we do end up going ahead with the idea, I'll follow up with all of
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y-composes/ if you want to
check quickly without installing Rawhide, though there've been some bugs
lately which broke the booting of live images, so they _may_ still be
unbootable. The nightlies are built and uploaded automatically, and
there are KDE, Xfce and LXDE builds there.
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pproved as updates yet and so are
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See attached, please help with testing! The important page is:
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Download links for the live images:
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side xfce's wm, thus
saving the space of metacity+deps.
I asked for live desktop images for rc2, btw - so an xfce beta rc2 image
should be available for testing soon.
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le could do some of these tests over the next few days (by
Wednesday) that would be awesome. Also note that I'm running a session
at FUDCon Zurich this afternoon where we'll hopefully be able to get
together and fill out some of the table, so if you're at FUDCon, come
out to my se
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 19:14 +0100, Ron Leach wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hey, everyone. So, it's time for pre-release testing again!
> >
> > http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14-Beta.RC2/Live/
> >
> > you will find live images f
ults need to be in by then for
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Quick note - per my testing, Beta RC3 desktop spin passes the validation
testing for Beta, with a clean slate except for
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636229 which I noted in
passing. Great job!
testing from others to confirm is still welcome! I'm not always right =)
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> People,
>
>
> On 2010-09-22 09:13, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Quick note - per my testing, Beta RC3 desktop spin passes the validation
> > testing for Beta, with a clean slate except for
> > https://bugzi
gt; Using top I found it is Xorg - taking up nearly 100% of CPU time . .
>
> Is there some way to find out what it is about Xorg in particular?
Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for incriminating messages.
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On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 20:25 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> Adam,
>
>
> On 2010-09-22 21:03, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 20:29 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> >
> >>> I agree with Adam - look for processes eating resources. I recommend
On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 09:32 +0100, Ron Leach wrote:
> Philip Rhoades wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> > On 2010-09-22 17:58, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 14:29 +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> >>> People,
> >>>
> >
probably has the psb driver out of the box, there would be
no legal or technical restriction on them doing this, and a Mandriva
package of the driver is available which they would likely source from.
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x11-drv-psb'?
>
>
> I did that all correctly as far as I can tell (for both F13 and F14).
You may want to try a few times, it seems like the driver has made it to
some Fusion mirrors but not to others yet (it seems some Fusion mirrors
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t one way or another, we'll
take another look at the status of failures in LXDE and XFCE, and any
other desktops/spins we extend validation testing to for F15 (I'm
looking at Sugar and Meego for that time). But for now, just a heads-up
that we'll be treating XFCE/LXDE validation issues
start' as root at a console. It's a known bug in the bluez
package in the Beta, it's been fixed since then (so 'yum update' should
also get you a bluez that works).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634205
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t a
> message saying "Warning: terminal not fully functional - press RETURN"
> prior to the man page being loaded. When I try to irssi, I get the
> message "TERM environment not set / Can't initialize screen handling,
> quitting".
https://bugzilla.redhat
desktop
validation results! I haven't tested the images myself yet but I'm
pretty sure they're not DOA, I'm downloading them for myself right now.
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o make a wallpaper, I'd be happy
> > using it.
>
> The leader of the design team wants to go with the GNOME wallpaper, so I
> don't think they are going to make one unless we explicitly ask them.
> Therefor I have filed a ticket at
> https://fedorahosted.org/design-t
ll post a quick note when
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> Do ask if you have any questions. Thanks! I'll post a quick note when
> the live images land.
OK, the lives are up now - go ahead and test! Thanks.
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follow the instructions in the
test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if you
have any trouble or questions.
If anyone's wondering about LXDE, it hasn't been spun yet because gmixer
was orphaned; we should sort that out with rel-eng.
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rd can't do something.
I haven't used a spreadsheet in anger for something like a decade and
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be a good thing to ask dcbw about ahead of time, so CCing
him :)
Dan, what's the plan for non-GNOME desktops? Is nm-applet just gonna
stick around for them?
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tion area icon for update
availability notification in gnome-packagekit for F15. So Xfce (and
LXDE) may need to come up with an alternative arrangement. I'm not sure
exactly what the libnotify support will result in, but this is
definitely something to look at. I'm CCing Richard in case he can
provi
> or not.
I'm getting update notifications in GNOME 3 since:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=234079
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> going back to gdm.
>
> Votes? Thoughts? Strong feelings?
I don't really care, as long as it works.
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/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Beta_TC1_Desktop ,
that would be really great. Just ask me if you have any questions or
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where
anaconda crashed if you ran it from a live image is fixed.
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> invalid. :(
>
> CC'ing Adam Williamson, he might know more.
>
> Adam, as you see it's not just the lxde-common package that has missed
> the LXDE Spin beta but also *a lot* of other packages for Xfce. Were you
> aware of these iss
/bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697834
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27;t make much use because
> systemadm does not show up in the menus (filed as
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697188 )
I believe Lennart said this is intentional as he doesn't think it's good
enough to show people yet...
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tus of what the s-c-* app is capable
of and whether the GNOME app can do all the same stuff, and whether the
other desktops make it possible to deal with the same settings, I guess.
(I wonder if it might be good for there to be a cross-desktop list
within Fedora, for things that concern all desktop env
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 17:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Just as a note on this one, I found that a bug is already filed for the
> most infamous case, Software Update / Software Updates:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702772
>
> and has been passed on to up
: OnlyShowIn is also an improvement on the current situation, but
I think a rename is still a bit better. As others have said, you might
want to use Terminal in GNOME, or gnome-terminal in Xfce. I've used
Terminal in GNOME before, when gnome-terminal was broken (though I wound
up on lxterminal beca
em NotShowIn (or whatever the keyword is) GNOME and KDE.
Desktop / KDE teams, wdyt?
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help with this. But if the name of the app *is* its generic purpose,
that's a more serious issue. I don't think you can lump Terminal in with
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On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:58 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> I think web browsers are not generic. If they just embedded webkit or
> gecko, nobody would install two different browsers based on the same
> rendering engine.
I have two based on Webkit installed right now...=)
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;em by default
for GNOME and KDE spins, *and* make 'em NotShowIn desktops where they're
not really needed, so that if people install them for use in Xfce or
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d "NM_CONTROLLED=no" to the ifcfg-eth1 file.
Or instead of bypassing NM and using a dumb script to disable the
interface, you could simply set ONBOOT=NO in the same file.
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think it's gdm, or else the desktop spin and DVD wouldn't compose
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me or anyone else in
#fedora-qa if you have trouble.
At minimum we need the Alpha and Beta tests for Desktop, Fallback and
KDE to be complete in order to sign off on the Beta release, but it'd be
great to have results for all of the tests for all desktops.
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ween RC2 and RC3 are an
updated libreport to fix a bug with reporting bugs from the installer,
and dropping gnome-documents from the default install as it crashes on
start - but we still need to check. Fallback mode is highest priority as
that wasn't tested in RC2.
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On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 09:54 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We got the tests done for Desktop and KDE in RC2, and there should be no
> difference with RC3 - the only changes between RC2 and RC3 are an
> updated libreport to fix a bug with reporting bugs from the installer,
> and dr
though there actually aren't a whole lot of desktop bugs there right
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issues which prevented KDE
running properly in a VM with either qxl or cirrus drivers: KDE should
now work fine inside KVMs. For Xfce, we took a bunch of the
NTH-nominated fixes. So, I'm hoping this means we've already had quite a
lot of testing with the TCs, and the RCs should be pretty g
On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 12:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, everyone. It was a hard slog, but we finally managed to do an F16
> RC1 build yesterday. We only have a few days before the go/no-go meeting
> on Tuesday so we could really do with your help to get through
> validatio
last rush job this go-round: either we approve RC4 at the go/no-go
tomorrow afternoon, or we slip a week, which would at least give us lots
of time to complete testing...but let's not do that! :)
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e the necessary minimum coverage for
sign-off, but it's always good to cover all desktops and get the Beta /
Final tests done at Alpha stage so we know what's broken. So if you get
a minute to help out, please do! Thanks.
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to do, so if
you can help that'd be great.
I have done a smoke test on all four desktops; they all boot okay to a
sane looking desktop and successfully install to hard disk and boot from
hard disk, so they're all clearly testable, not DOA.
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image
with GNOME 3.4 built in and found it passed all validation tests, so
that's good, but we should re-do them with the official build just to
make sure. Thanks!
As always, instructions and results matrix at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Desktop
thanks
t; (have been a 'bare metal' sort of guy, and am now into VM separations)
> but I've always plugged in a USB drive at the same time as the CD/DVD...
The problem he had is that if you quit the live installer, the system
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'nomodeset' should work around it for now.
If you get lost or confused by the process at any point, but you think
you've found an important issue, don't hesitate to holler at me or
anyone else in QA or release engineering, on list, by direct mail or on
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g done for Xfce and LXDE.
If you have a few minutes, it'd be great if you could grab the images
from https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC5/ and help
fill out the results at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Beta_RC5_Desktop .
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inal', and the ones with no milestone come last (these are
optional tests that aren't usually expected to encounter release
blocking issues).
Later composes may follow - please do help test those too. We need to
run all the Alpha tests against at least one of the release composes
(ide
tests
using the lives. Any help with getting as much of the validation done as
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date,
there's a chance we'll decide to ship this tomorrow if there are no
release blocking bugs in it. So please, if you can, help run as many
validation tests on it as possible - we really need as close to 100%
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29-20180919.0' in them (*not*
'Fedora-29-20180919.n.0', those would be nightlies, which don't have
the extra fixed packages).
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e tests are manual or automated, it is still valuable to
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nother desktop, and Xfce is the one we pick.
Since it's explicitly *for ARM* that Xfce is a blocking desktop, it
would feel a bit odd to test it only on x86_64 (where it is *not* a
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mail will clarify our path :) So if you have any kind
of useful information or strong opinions on the general area here,
please do contribute them, and hopefully a clearer way forward will
emerge.
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On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> The justification for this is, I hope I am correctly representing all
> views here (please say so if not), that this mechanism is both less
> necessary (due to a general reduction in the amount of 'weird' graphic
ss
> likely that graphics fallback would work.
Well, practically speaking it is: right now we know of two bugs that
affect this exact mechanism :)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683197
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1691909
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nction as intended
(launching the installer or desktop and attempting to use a generic
driver), and there must be no bugs that clearly prevent the installer
or desktop from being reached in this configuration on all systems or
on wide classes of hardware."
How does that sound to everyone?
On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 12:07 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:19 AM Kamil Paral wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:04 PM Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> > > "The boot menu for all release-blocking installer and live images
> > > sho
Seemed sensible to forward this to xfce@ as well :)
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As discussed in the Fedora QA meeting today, below are the proposed changes
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