[xmail] Re: mail loop?

2006-02-17 Thread Francesco Vertova

At 21.55 16/02/06, you wrote:
If I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- with a trailing '.'
After the .com, I get a mail loop error back.

I suppose domain.com is a local domain. This is a known issue (see 
the thread on local domain and trailing dot). Queued for next 
release. By now the only solution is defining a domain alias.

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: mail loop?

2006-02-17 Thread Don Drake

Davide, any ETA on a fix?  

Thanks.

-Don

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Francesco Vertova
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:55 AM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Subject: [xmail] Re: mail loop?


At 21.55 16/02/06, you wrote:
If I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- with a trailing '.'
After the .com, I get a mail loop error back.

I suppose domain.com is a local domain. This is a known issue (see 
the thread on local domain and trailing dot). Queued for next 
release. By now the only solution is defining a domain alias.

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: mail loop?

2006-02-17 Thread Davide Libenzi

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Don Drake wrote:

 Davide, any ETA on a fix?

Dunno yet.


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[xmail] Re: mail loop?

2006-02-16 Thread Davide Libenzi

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Don Drake wrote:

 If I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- with a trailing '.'
 After the .com, I get a mail loop error back.

What does the Received: trace show?



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[xmail] Re: mail loop?

2006-02-16 Thread Don Drake

Here you go.

Incoming.maillaunder.com is a custdomain, but I've seen it on another server
(v1.22) that was a real domain.

-Don

[PeekTime] 1140123160 : Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:40 -0600 
ErrCode   = -173
ErrString = Mail loop detected
Message S426ACE2A blocked by mail loop check !
SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check



[05] Here is listed the initial part of the message:

Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51021)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE2A for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:40 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51020)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE29 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:40 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51019)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE28 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:40 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51018)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE27 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:39 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51017)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE26 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:39 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51016)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE25 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:38 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51015)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE24 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:38 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51014)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE23 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:38 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51013)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE22 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:37 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51012)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE21 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:37 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51011)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE20 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:37 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51010)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE1F for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:36 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51009)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE1E for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:36 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51008)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE1D for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:35 -0600
Received: from incoming.maillaunder.com ([10.1.0.1]:51007)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE1C for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:35 -0600
Received: from drakeconsult.com ([10.1.0.1]:51006)
by incoming.maillaunder.com with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S426ACE1B for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:35 -0600
X-AuthUser: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from zzz ([10.1.0.15]:33289)
by katie with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server]
id S1C73B7 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:52:33 -0600
From: Don Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 PM
To: XMail mailing list
Subject: [xmail] Re: mail loop?


On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Don Drake wrote:

 If I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED

[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-23 Thread Lars

hi,

is there someone who could help me in german?

regards
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[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-23 Thread Sönke Ruempler

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote on Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:50
AM:

 hi,
 
 is there someone who could help me in german?

It seems that your sendmail binary is from qmail and not XMails. Look at
the instructions here:

http://www.ubaight.com/xmail/BeginnersGuide.html#SendmailScript

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[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-21 Thread Lars

hi,

no, this file is empty...
what can i do with this file?

but what did the file do with postifx? did i have to shutdown postfix?

the main problem, why i was pointed to this problem is, that a mail-form 
sended with php (local) to a (local) domain was not received by xmail 
 it was spooled in /var/mail/root with the additional text mail loop 
 ...

regards
lars

Davide Libenzi schrieb:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Lars wrote:

  

hi,

i get this answer ...

server:/var/mail # telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server]
service ready; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:48:25 +0200



Did you do some weird setup with smtpfwd.tab?


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[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-19 Thread Davide Libenzi

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Lars wrote:


 hi,

 i get this answer ...

 server:/var/mail # telnet localhost 25
 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server]
 service ready; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:48:25 +0200

Did you do some weird setup with smtpfwd.tab?


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[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-18 Thread Lars

hi,

i get this answer ...

server:/var/mail # telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [XMail 1.21 ESMTP Server] 
service ready; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:48:25 +0200

regards
lars

Snke Ruempler schrieb:

Lars wrote:
  

hi,

i had set up a linux server (suse 9.1) with xmail. everything works 
fine, my mails sended by an external mailer come in and a mail localy 
sended (to an external mailadress or another then the sended-domain) 
finds the way out :-) BUT if i send a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i did not get the mail ...

so i looked under /var/mail/root and i had a big mail-file with all my 
lost mails ...
in this file is written Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for domain_1 
loops back to myself

how can i solve my problem?



It seems that postfix is installed and started. Look at the SMTP 
greeting line (telnet host 25) if XMail or Postfix answers ...
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[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-15 Thread =?ISO-8859-15?Q?S=F6nke_Ruempler?=

Lars wrote:
 hi,
 
 i had set up a linux server (suse 9.1) with xmail. everything works 
 fine, my mails sended by an external mailer come in and a mail localy 
 sended (to an external mailadress or another then the sended-domain) 
 finds the way out :-) BUT if i send a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i did not get the mail ...
 
 so i looked under /var/mail/root and i had a big mail-file with all my 
 lost mails ...
 in this file is written Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for domain_1 
 loops back to myself
 
 how can i solve my problem?

It seems that postfix is installed and started. Look at the SMTP 
greeting line (telnet host 25) if XMail or Postfix answers ...
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[xmail] Re: Mail Loop Problem

2004-10-06 Thread Juan Hector Medina
Eric,


I increase the value to 16 , it was 10.

Thank you!



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Eric Garnice
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail Loop Problem


In server.tab check the value of MaxMTAOps

The default is 16.  Setting this below 16 will cause erroneous loop
errors.

- Eric


- Original Message - 
From: Juan Hector Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:29 PM
Subject: [xmail] Mail Loop Problem


 
 
 Hi Everybody...
 
 I just check my logs files and I see this error:
 
 ==
 ==
 
 [01] Error sending message
 [1096946315962.3160719390.4753.mail.xcien.com] from [xcien.com].
 
 ID:SD7768D
 Mail From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 [02] The reason of the delivery failure was:
 
 Mail loop detected 
 ==
 ==
 =
 
 
 [01] Error sending message 
 [1096902501438.1311965223.1889.mail.xcien.com] from [xcien.com].
 
 ID:SD6FEE3
 Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 [02] The reason of the delivery failure was:
 
 Mail loop detected
 
 ==
 
 
 
 Where User/OtherUser @ DOMAIN/OTHERDOMAIN is a Valid user local 
 account I doubled check their settings for a mail loop between the 
 accounts , mailproc or anything but I can't find it ... Some one have 
 any ideas what its happening...
 
 
 Thank you!
 
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[xmail] Re: Mail Loop Problem

2004-10-05 Thread Eric Garnice
In server.tab check the value of MaxMTAOps

The default is 16.  Setting this below 16 will cause erroneous loop errors.

- Eric


- Original Message - 
From: Juan Hector Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:29 PM
Subject: [xmail] Mail Loop Problem


 
 
 Hi Everybody...
 
 I just check my logs files and I see this error:
 
 
 
 [01] Error sending message
 [1096946315962.3160719390.4753.mail.xcien.com] from [xcien.com].
 
 ID:SD7768D
 Mail From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 [02] The reason of the delivery failure was:
 
 Mail loop detected
 
 =
 
 
 [01] Error sending message
 [1096902501438.1311965223.1889.mail.xcien.com] from [xcien.com].
 
 ID:SD6FEE3
 Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 [02] The reason of the delivery failure was:
 
 Mail loop detected
 
 ==
 
 
 
 Where User/OtherUser @ DOMAIN/OTHERDOMAIN is a Valid user local account
 I doubled check their settings for a mail loop between the accounts ,
 mailproc or anything but I can't find it ...
 Some one have any ideas what its happening...
 
 
 Thank you!
 
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[xmail] Re: Mail Loop Problem

2004-10-05 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Juan Hector Medina wrote:

 
 
 Hi Everybody...
 
 I just check my logs files and I see this error:
 
 
 
 [01] Error sending message
 [1096946315962.3160719390.4753.mail.xcien.com] from [xcien.com].
 
 ID:SD7768D
 Mail From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 [02] The reason of the delivery failure was:
 
 Mail loop detected

You need to check the message's Received: chain. If there is not real 
loop, just increase the number of MTA hops inside the server.tab file.



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected

2004-05-18 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 19 May 2004, ck wrote:

 
 ErrCode   = -173
 ErrString = Mail loop detected
 Message S19D blocked by mail loop check !
 SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check
   
 What does it mean?

Take a look at the Received: header chain in the message.


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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-13 Thread John Kielkopf
Francesco Vertova wrote:

At 12.11 12/05/04 -0500, you wrote:

  

Why Xmail decided to use the A record from the next DNS it was
able to talk with is beyond me.



My dns reports MX information for bioenergy.com as Non-authoritative. It 
seems - I've seen this other times - that in such a case the XMail internal 
resolver fails, so it falls back on A.

Ciao, Francesco

  

Hmmm... Interesting.


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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-12 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 12 May 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

 Getting a Mail loop detected on a domain we host on our DNS server, 
 and on our web servers, be do not host the mail (MX record points to 
 customers server).
 
 This only happens on mail being sent from our mail server. The 
 destination domain is not handled by our mail servers (no domain alias, 
 no custom domain, no domain entry, and the DNS records appear to be 
 correct).  This seemed to start after changing to 1.18... I haven't gone 
 back to 1.17 to test though.

Take a look at the slog files. Try a nslookup -recurse -type=mx bioenergy.com 
from the XMail machine. IMO is failing with the MX resolution and is 
picking up the A record, that points to your server.



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   by mnwebhost.net with [XMail 1.18 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server]
   id S1306CA for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   Sun, 2 May 2004 17:47:59 -0500



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-12 Thread Bill Healy
You have an A record that points back to yourself
bioenergy.com.  3580IN  A   207.67.28.220

Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX
record exists. Interesting
bioenergy.com.  3529IN  MX  10 64.122.83.163.

Bill


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From:  John Kielkopf[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:  Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:56 AM
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:   [xmail] Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

Getting a Mail loop detected on a domain we host on our DNS server, 
and on our web servers, be do not host the mail (MX record points to 
customers server).

This only happens on mail being sent from our mail server. The 
destination domain is not handled by our mail servers (no domain alias, 
no custom domain, no domain entry, and the DNS records appear to be 
correct).  This seemed to start after changing to 1.18... I haven't gone 
back to 1.17 to test though.

-John

(rejection message below: users modified to ):

[00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[Mail loop detected]


[01] Error sending message [1083538241496.2332.ns1] from
[smtp1.mnwebhost.net].

ID:S1306D9
Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[02] The reason of the delivery failure was:

Mail loop detected


[04] Here is listed the message log file:

[PeekTime] 1083538122 : Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:42 -0500

ErrCode   = -173
ErrString = Mail loop detected
Message S1306D9 blocked by mail loop check !
SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check






[05] Here is listed the initial part of the message:

Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3999)
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   Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:26 -0500
Received: from smtp1.mnwebhost.net (207.67.28.220:3955)
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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-12 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Bill Healy wrote:

 You have an A record that points back to yourself
 bioenergy.com.  3580IN  A   207.67.28.220
 
 Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX
 record exists. Interesting
 bioenergy.com.  3529IN  MX  10 64.122.83.163.

The A record lookup is the backup solution if the MX cannot be found.



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-12 Thread Bill Healy
Understood, but why didn't xmail find the MX record? Sounds like it's
not an intermittent problem and the dns server is right there near the
xmail server I'm guessing.

Bill

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On Wed, 12 May 2004, Bill Healy wrote:

 You have an A record that points back to yourself
 bioenergy.com.  3580IN  A   207.67.28.220
 
 Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX
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 bioenergy.com.  3529IN  MX  10 64.122.83.163.

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-12 Thread John Kielkopf
Davide Libenzi wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004, Bill Healy wrote:

  

You have an A record that points back to yourself
bioenergy.com.  3580IN  A   207.67.28.220

Don't know why xmail is giving preference to the A record when an MX
record exists. Interesting
bioenergy.com.  3529IN  MX  10 64.122.83.163.



The A record lookup is the backup solution if the MX cannot be found.



- Davide

  


Turns out one of the DNS server that mail server uses wasn't responding 
at all.  Why Xmail decided to use the A record from the next DNS it was 
able to talk with is beyond me.

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected - Can't seem to find the problem.

2004-05-12 Thread Francesco Vertova
At 12.11 12/05/04 -0500, you wrote:

Why Xmail decided to use the A record from the next DNS it was
able to talk with is beyond me.

My dns reports MX information for bioenergy.com as Non-authoritative. It 
seems - I've seen this other times - that in such a case the XMail internal 
resolver fails, so it falls back on A.

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-28 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Stephen Wilson wrote:

 RaveRod wrote:
  Is there any way to de-loop these messages? Would you have to 
  remove the
  messages Received: headers manually and then resubmit the message?
 
 I have not received any more loops. I think Mr. Libenzi fixed this 
 problem quite quickly and concisely. Thank you very much Mr. Libenzi!

Pls don't use Mr.Libenzi, I feel like you'd be talking to my father :)



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-28 Thread Stephen Wilson
Davide Libenzi wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Stephen Wilson wrote:

  

RaveRod wrote:


Is there any way to de-loop these messages? Would you have to 
remove the
messages Received: headers manually and then resubmit the message?
  

I have not received any more loops. I think Mr. Libenzi fixed this 
problem quite quickly and concisely. Thank you very much Mr. Libenzi!



Pls don't use Mr.Libenzi, I feel like you'd be talking to my father :)



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Will do Davide.


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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Liron Newman
Yeah, happened here too.. Only 4 though. So it's not only you...

RaveRod wrote:

5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
loop.
 

This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Fred

I received 1 email detected as loop too. I think the problem is with
ecartis.

Fred

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Subject: [xmail] Mail loop detected?

5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
loop.
 

This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Goesta Smekal
On [Tue, 27.04. 23:20], RaveRod wrote:
 5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
 loop.
  
 
 This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?
YOU can't fix it. Since the loop was built by someone else. It seems we all get
those :-P 

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Francesco Vertova
At 23.20 27/04/04 +, you wrote:
5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
loop.

This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?

Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old 
messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 
and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending 
on the number of Received: headers). Look at the date of the original messages.

Just wait for Davide to unsubscribe this guy (or unsubscribe yourself, if 
you really can't live with this for a while).

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread RaveRod
Well, I received you and Liron's messages fine. Seems strange.

At least now I know it's not my mailserver.

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Behalf Of Fred
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Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?


I received 1 email detected as loop too. I think the problem is with
ecartis.

Fred

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Sent: 27 avril, 2004 19:21
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Subject: [xmail] Mail loop detected?

5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
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This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread RaveRod
Yeah I noticed those to. So these messages are as good as junk?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Francesco Vertova
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

At 23.20 27/04/04 +, you wrote:
5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
loop.

This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?

Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old 
messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 
and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending 
on the number of Received: headers). Look at the date of the original
messages.

Just wait for Davide to unsubscribe this guy (or unsubscribe yourself, if 
you really can't live with this for a while).

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Francesco Vertova
At 23.43 27/04/04 +, you wrote:
Yeah I noticed those to. So these messages are as good as junk?

Yep. Unless you want to keep them to write an ad hoc filter ...

Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old
messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13
and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending
on the number of Received: headers).

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Benny
Just for clarity, how would this happen?  I thought a mailloop would 
only effect that mailserver???  Confused...

Ben

RaveRod wrote:

Yeah I noticed those to. So these messages are as good as junk?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Francesco Vertova
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

At 23.20 27/04/04 +, you wrote:
  

5 emails I just received (from the XMail Discussion group) are in a Mail
loop.

This may seems a stupid question but how do I fix this?



Someone with a screwed up MS SMTPSVC mailserver is re-injecting old 
messages into the list. The original messages were posted between April 13 
and April 14. Some go through, some are detected as mail loops (depending 
on the number of Received: headers). Look at the date of the original
messages.

Just wait for Davide to unsubscribe this guy (or unsubscribe yourself, if 
you really can't live with this for a while).

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Liron Newman wrote:

 Yeah, happened here too.. Only 4 though. So it's not only you...

This was the genius that re-injected messages (I received about 200 
bounces for mail loops):

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Now carefully removed from the list. I miss a feature in Ecartis already. 
Something like a ~/.never-resubscribe kinda of things.



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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Francesco Vertova
At 09.11 27/04/04 -0500, you wrote:
Just for clarity, how would this happen?  I thought a mailloop would
only effect that mailserver???  Confused...

XMail defines a mail loop as a message with more than (by default 16) 
Received: headers. It counts these headers and does not try to detect if a 
message is really going back and forth. The (good) assumption is that, if 
there are too many Received: then something is wrong somewhere, whether a 
loop or not (and a loop will always generate too many Received: sooner or 
later ...).

Now, suppose Ecartis adds, say, 9 Received: headers. If a message is 
re-injected, it gets another 9 Received: headers prepended to it, so that 
XMail sees too many Received: and declares a mail loop. The actual number 
of Received: headers may vary, so a re-injected msg may get through on a 
system and be declared a mail loop on another. Anyway, the 'loop' is the 
sheer number of Received: which in this case depends on re-injection rather 
than a 'loop' proper. But the above assumption is still good :-)

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected?

2004-04-27 Thread Benny
Hey, thanks for the info Francesco!

Ben

Francesco Vertova wrote:

At 09.11 27/04/04 -0500, you wrote:
  

Just for clarity, how would this happen?  I thought a mailloop would
only effect that mailserver???  Confused...



XMail defines a mail loop as a message with more than (by default 16) 
Received: headers. It counts these headers and does not try to detect if a 
message is really going back and forth. The (good) assumption is that, if 
there are too many Received: then something is wrong somewhere, whether a 
loop or not (and a loop will always generate too many Received: sooner or 
later ...).

Now, suppose Ecartis adds, say, 9 Received: headers. If a message is 
re-injected, it gets another 9 Received: headers prepended to it, so that 
XMail sees too many Received: and declares a mail loop. The actual number 
of Received: headers may vary, so a re-injected msg may get through on a 
system and be declared a mail loop on another. Anyway, the 'loop' is the 
sheer number of Received: which in this case depends on re-injection rather 
than a 'loop' proper. But the above assumption is still good :-)

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: mail loop

2004-03-31 Thread Sönke Ruempler
 Mail loops typically born due postmaster screw ups, so you don't want
 to notify the user about this. It will be up to the postmaster to fix
 the problem and re-inject the message.

What about 127.0.0.1 MX entries?
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[xmail] Re: mail loop

2004-03-30 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Sönke Ruempler wrote:

 in case of a mail loop the postmaster gets a message, but the sender not?

Mail loops typically born due postmaster screw ups, so you don't want to 
notify the user about this. It will be up to the postmaster to fix the 
problem and re-inject the message.



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[xmail] Re: mail loop

2003-07-29 Thread Snke Ruempler

 my server oftentimes gives me a mail loop detected error even if the
recepient is a valid user. why is that so? how will i solve this problem?
below is a copy of the error message:

in server.tab set the MaxMTAOps higher

[MaxMTAOps]

Set the maximum number of MTA relay steps before to declare the message as
looped (default 16).

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[xmail] Re: Mail loop

2003-03-28 Thread Bill Healy

Right around this area Received: from
dial81-131-81-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com (HELO
newserver.Wilby.local) (81.131.81.189)
  by server-19.tower-17.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 00:45:26
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of the headers it looks like a dialup users has downloaded a POP3
mailbox and then is sending messages back out. If it sends it back out
to someone that is in that POP3 mailbox that was downloaded it will
cause a loop.
Do you know why the dialup users was downloading and resending? Do you
have some aliases or other forwarding going on for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which appears early on in the headers?

Bill

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Sent:  Friday, March 28, 2003 1:09 AM
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:   [xmail] Mail loop


Hi,
   I have received this error message a few times. Again for
btconnect.com. Wish I could ban people from using BT as their ISP. Does
anyone know what is wrong for me to get this mail loop detected error
message?

Thanks,
Alex

-Original Message-
From: hal.networks.co.uk PostMaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 March 2003 00:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Error sending message [1048812328946.1892.hal] from
[hal.networks.co.uk]


[00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[Mail loop
detected]


[01] Error sending message [1048812328946.1892.hal] from
[hal.networks.co.uk].

ID:S1B41
Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[02] The reason of the delivery failure was:

Mail loop detected


[04] Here is listed the message log file:

[PeekTime] 1048812329 : Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:45:29 -

ErrCode   = -173
ErrString = Mail loop detected
Message S1B41 blocked by mail loop check !
SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check



[05] Here is listed the initial part of the message:

X-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from server01.Smith-Gardner.local (217.37.215.69:54133)
   by hal with [XMail 1.14 (Win32/Ix86) ESMTP Server]
   id S1B41 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
   Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:45:29 -
Received: from server01.Smith-Gardner.local ([10.2.0.240]) by
server01.Smith-Gardner.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329);
Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:45:55 +
Received: by server01.Smith-Gardner.local (Microsoft Connector for POP3
Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download)
id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 28 Mar
2003 00:45:48 -
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 31918 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 00:45:32 -
Received: from 6.star-private-mail-12.star.net.uk (HELO
smtp-in-6.star.net.uk) (10.200.12.6)
  by delivery-4.star-private-mail-4.star.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003
00:45:32 -
Received: (qmail 1203 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 00:45:32 -
Received: from mail17.messagelabs.com (62.231.131.67)
  by smtp-in-6.star.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 00:45:32 -
X-VirusChecked: Checked
X-Env-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Msg-Ref: server-19.tower-17.messagelabs.com!1048812309!8926
Received: (qmail 7594 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 00:45:26 -
Received: from dial81-131-81-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com (HELO
newserver.Wilby.local) (81.131.81.189)
  by server-19.tower-17.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 00:45:26
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Received: from newserver.Wilby.local ([192.168.16.2]) by
newserver.Wilby.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2096);
Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:43:58 +
Received: by newserver.Wilby.local (Microsoft Connector for POP3
Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download)
id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 28 Mar 2003
00:41:34 -
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:40:10 +
Received: from hal (actually host 1.105.189.62.in-addr.arpa) by dswu83
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[xmail] Re: Mail loop

2003-03-28 Thread Alex Young


I have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the alias * which forwards
all email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is only the one account
under this domain.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Healy
Sent: 28 March 2003 10:53
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop



Right around this area Received: from
dial81-131-81-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com (HELO
newserver.Wilby.local) (81.131.81.189)
  by server-19.tower-17.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 00:45:26
- of the headers it looks like a dialup users has downloaded a POP3
mailbox and then is sending messages back out. If it sends it back out
to someone that is in that POP3 mailbox that was downloaded it will
cause a loop. Do you know why the dialup users was downloading and
resending? Do you have some aliases or other forwarding going on for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which appears early on in the headers?

Bill

--
From:  Alex Young[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:  Friday, March 28, 2003 1:09 AM
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:   [xmail] Mail loop


Hi,
   I have received this error message a few times. Again for 
btconnect.com. Wish I could ban people from using BT as their ISP. Does

anyone know what is wrong for me to get this mail loop detected error 
message?

Thanks,
Alex

-Original Message-
From: hal.networks.co.uk PostMaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 March 2003 00:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Error sending message [1048812328946.1892.hal] from
[hal.networks.co.uk]


[00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[Mail loop 
detected]


[01] Error sending message [1048812328946.1892.hal] from 
[hal.networks.co.uk].

ID:S1B41
Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rcpt To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[02] The reason of the delivery failure was:

Mail loop detected


[04] Here is listed the message log file:

[PeekTime] 1048812329 : Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:45:29 -

ErrCode   = -173
ErrString = Mail loop detected
Message S1B41 blocked by mail loop check !
SMTP-Error = 554 Message blocked by mail loop check



[05] Here is listed the initial part of the message:

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Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download)
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2003 
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[xmail] Re: Mail loop detected on backup MX

2003-01-27 Thread Louis Solomon [SteelBytes]

  an email that was sent to my backup MX generated a Mail loop detected
  error on the backup MX.
  ...
  so, have I just setup my backup MX wrong ? (I thought this is how it was
  supposted to be setup according to a recent post on this list)

 You should use an smtprelay instead of an smtp

thanks.
so that post on the 2/jan/03 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] was wrong.

Louis Solomon
www.SteelBytes.com


- Original Message -
From: Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: XMail mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: [xmail] Re: Mail loop detected on backup MX



 On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Louis Solomon [SteelBytes] wrote:

 
  an email that was sent to my backup MX generated a Mail loop detected
  error on the backup MX.
 
  here's the setup (using v1.11 on win2000) ...
 
  DNS MX records:
  domain1.com - 10:alias.domain1.com, 20:alias.domain2.com
  domain1.com xmail settings:
  domain - domain1.com
  domain alias - alias.domain1.com
  domain2.com xmail settings:
  custdomain - domain1.com.tab: SMTPnewline,
alias.domain1.com.tab:
  SMTPnewline
  (plus settings pertaining to domain2.com, but they should not be
  relevant, but for those who are interested, they are almost the same as
for
  domain1.com).
 
  I tested this by telneting to domain1.com:25 and domain2.com:25 and
sending
  a message by hand (which got through both times ok).
  so I thought my backup MX was all ok.
 
  but for a short amount of time on the weekend, domain1.com was offline,
and
  an email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  now, here is what I think happened 
 
  remote server does
  MX lookup for domain1.com - gets 10:alias.domain1.com,
  20:alias.domain2.com
  attempts to connect to domain1.com:25 - fails
  attempts to connect to domain2.com:25 - succeeds
  domain2.com does
  check local domains and domain aliases - no match
  check custdomain - finds command SMTP for domain1.com
  MX lookup for domain1.com - gets 10:alias.domain1.com,
  20:alias.domain2.com
  attempts to connect to domain1.com:25 - fails
  attempts to connect to domain2.com:25 - succeeds
  domain2.com does the same sequence of steps repeatedly until loop
detected.
  (each time prepending a bit to the header)
 
  so, have I just setup my backup MX wrong ? (I thought this is how it was
  supposted to be setup according to a recent post on this list)

 You should use an smtprelay instead of an smtp


 - Davide

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