Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:25:13 +1000, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote: From: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net Merged. 903e0f6..5f34853 master - master -- keith.pack...@intel.com

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-30 Thread Corbin Simpson
I wasn't going to say anything, but I have an XGI Volari hanging on my wall with a Dx9 sticker on it. I've just been too lazy/incompetent/indifferent/much of an AMD whore to get started on KMS for it. My Didj and Ego share a similar fate, along with other various video cards. Modern and rare

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-30 Thread Dave Airlie
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Corbin Simpson mostawesomed...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't going to say anything, but I have an XGI Volari hanging on my wall with a Dx9 sticker on it. I've just been too lazy/incompetent/indifferent/much of an AMD whore to get started on KMS for it. My Didj and

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-29 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 11:38 -0800, Keith Packard wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:25:13 +1000, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote: + if (!scrp-monitor-maxPixClock !specified) { +type = default ; +scrp-monitor-maxPixClock = 65000.0; +} Can

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-29 Thread Keith Packard
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:38:36 -0500, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 08:55 -0800, Keith Packard wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:07:40 -0500, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: Now if it seems to you wrong that we're trying to overlay magic values on this logic

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-27 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:24:29PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 01:05:09PM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: For external monitors most from the last 10 years are geared towards 10x7 or larger which seems like a sufficiently large time horizon for bumping the default.

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-26 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:06:21PM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: Perhaps this is why certain vendors don't want to work with Xorg. We target 1990 hardware to the detriment of modern desktops. Alex Sure, that's what statements like whatever we do will get reinvented anyway mean. Luc

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Mark Kettenis
From: Keith Packard kei...@keithp.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:38:25 -0800 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:25:13 +1000, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote: + if (!scrp-monitor-maxPixClock !specified) { +type = default ; +scrp-monitor-maxPixClock =

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:25:13AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: From: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net --- hw/xfree86/common/xf86Mode.c | 21 - 1 files changed, 16

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Alex Deucher
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:25:13AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: From: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net ---  

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:26:04AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Isn't the standard supposed to be those 14 vga fishbowls, which did only up to 1024x768 interlaced? Which is iirc, the timing given originally... #

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Alex Deucher
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:26:04AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Isn't the standard supposed to be those 14 vga fishbowls, which did only up to 1024x768

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:44:22AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:26:04AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Isn't the standard

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Alex Deucher
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:44:22AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:26:04AM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 01:05:09PM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote: But most people, I would wager, prefer 10x7 to 8x6 as a default. It would be nice if dialogs were that good, but a lot of them assume 10x7 or 12x8 at a minimum. If you have an internal panel what's ending up with anything other

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Keith Packard
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:31:00 +0100 (CET), Mark Kettenis mark.kette...@xs4all.nl wrote: To prevent you from getting a headache from low-refresh-rate 1024x768 modes on CRTs? Sure, providing a new default value for the pixel clock, but I guess I don't understand how the maxPixClock was set in

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:37:13PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: When you are hitting this code, then your monitor was not identified. This is not the case for that vast majority of people that you are mentioning here, or at least it shouldn't be the case. For that tiny fraction that should

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:51:04PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:44:24PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: The common case for hitting this case now is that you have a projector behind a display mux that doesn't do DDC. Most projectors are able to do 1024x768.

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:01:07PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:51:04PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:44:24PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: The common case for hitting this case now is that you have a projector behind a display mux

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:03:56PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: Just because KMS does it, doesn't mean X should do it too. The absence of complaints about KMS exploding people's monitors implies that nobody is actually running modern software on these displays, and so catering for them is

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:06:58PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:03:56PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: Just because KMS does it, doesn't mean X should do it too. The absence of complaints about KMS exploding people's monitors implies that nobody is actually

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:08:57PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:06:58PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: The absence of complaints about KMS exploding people's monitors implies that nobody is actually running modern software on these displays, and so catering for

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:14:36PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We provide pretty much no support for hardware that's the same vintage as the monitors you're talking about. Why would the people using these monitors be running current versions of X? Why would they not be able to write an

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:17:26PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:14:36PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We provide pretty much no support for hardware that's the same vintage as the monitors you're talking about. Why would the people using these monitors be

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:20:49PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think the benefit in supporting drivers for hardware that hasn't been manufactured in 16 years is pretty minimal, but nobody's saying Don't support old monitors. They're saying People using old monitors can write an

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:25:05PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:20:49PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think the benefit in supporting drivers for hardware that hasn't been manufactured in 16 years is pretty minimal, but nobody's saying Don't support old

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:14:36PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We provide pretty much no support for hardware that's the same vintage as the monitors you're talking about. Why would the people using these monitors be running current versions of X? Why would they not be able to write an

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:29:44PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:14:36PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We provide pretty much no support for hardware that's the same vintage as the monitors you're talking about. Why would the people using these monitors be

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:17:26PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:14:36PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We provide pretty much no support for hardware that's the same vintage as the monitors you're talking about. Why would the people using these

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:32:18PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:29:44PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: And just how certain are you that 1024x768 is going to help all those cases with missing EDID compared to 800x600? Because the common case for missing EDID is

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-25 Thread Alex Deucher
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 08:32:18PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:29:44PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote: And just how certain are you that 1024x768 is going to help all those cases with missing EDID

Re: [PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-24 Thread Keith Packard
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:25:13 +1000, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote: + if (!scrp-monitor-maxPixClock !specified) { +type = default ; +scrp-monitor-maxPixClock = 65000.0; +} Can you explain this part? Seems like this goes beyond changing the

[PATCH] xfree86: Bump classic driver default to 1024x768

2010-11-14 Thread Peter Hutterer
From: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com Signed-off-by: Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net --- hw/xfree86/common/xf86Mode.c | 21 - 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Mode.c