Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Elfy
On 11/02/15 17:30, Daniel Mehrmann wrote: Am 11.02.2015 um 15:22 schrieb Pasi Lallinaho: While the media size is one of the concerns, it's not the only one. Download times are an argument for keeping as small as possible; the smaller our ISOs are, the less time they take to download. Of

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Daniel Mehrmann
Am 11.02.2015 um 15:22 schrieb Pasi Lallinaho: While the media size is one of the concerns, it's not the only one. Download times are an argument for keeping as small as possible; the smaller our ISOs are, the less time they take to download. Of course, if something is considered essential,

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Bruno Augusto Clemente de Assis
Daniel Mehrmann, I think we shouldn't forget about latin america too, there is a big population there and most people doesn't have good internet connection, unfortunately! 2015-02-11 15:30 GMT-02:00 Daniel Mehrmann daniel.mehrm...@gmx.de: Am 11.02.2015 um 15:22 schrieb Pasi Lallinaho: While

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Peter Rauhut
Bandwidth caps are definitely a concern here as well, we wouldn't want somebody to reach their limit because they download Xubuntu. Considering I've known software developers whose only personal internet connection was an LTE hotspot, this is definitely possible. Also, in the US, while there

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Bruno Augusto Clemente de Assis
My main concern is: If we raise the max limit to 2GB, won't we be giving more opportunities to people say: Well, now that we have 2GB, why don't we raise it to 3GB? I think we should raise it in 500mb, and set the top limit as 1.5gb. I don't know if 500mb would be enough, but we should give it a

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Rafael Campos Nunes
In Brazil it depends on the region, on the South is around 8Mb, on the North the Internet is very expensive, specially in my town, and my bandwidth is around 2Mb. I believe that we should give the freedom to developers to include another programs such as LO, and also provide an alternative

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Mario J. Rugiero
If it's of any use, in Argentina it's around 5Mb, sometimes around 10-20, depending on your provider. -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Elfy
On 11/02/15 14:40, A Blesius wrote: I don't see why we should unnecessarily increase the ISO size. LO is in the repos, so why bother shipping it directly? If we decide to move on to 2 GB now, then we'll decide for 4 GB some time later. It will begin to grow from release to release, and at some

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread David Pires
On 11 February 2015 at 14:22, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote: While the media size is one of the concerns, it's not the only one. Download times are an argument for keeping as small as possible; the smaller our ISOs are, the less time they take to download. Of course, if

Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 5

2015-02-11 Thread abdullah demir
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Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 5

2015-02-11 Thread abdullah demir
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Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread A Blesius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't see why we should unnecessarily increase the ISO size. LO is in the repos, so why bother shipping it directly? If we decide to move on to 2 GB now, then we'll decide for 4 GB some time later. It will begin to grow from release to release, and

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
On 11/02/15 16:35, Micah Gersten wrote: On February 11, 2015 7:52:56 AM CST, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote: Hello, in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted to bring the

[TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello, in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted to bring the discussion in the mailing list. PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on filling the ISO with $software. People

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread PK
In my opinion it's only desirable to stay somewhat below 2 GB (with a margin of 100 - 200 MB). So that all 2 GB USB thumb drives are fit for Xubuntu, with a few MB's to spare for persistent space for documents and such. As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to strive for below or as close as

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Bruno Benitez
2015-02-11 12:06 GMT-03:00 Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org: I would suggest a one click install or something similar for LibreOffice amd stick with 1GB. This has been suggested before with LibreOffice and other software. What does the rest of the team feel about this generally

Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 5

2015-02-11 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
On 11/02/15 16:55, abdullah demir wrote: Enigmail: *Parts of the message have NOT been signed or encrypted* be able to work on any platform CD-ROM should work even 650 mb.küçük light most beautiful xubuntu2015-02-11 16:53 GMT+02:00 abdullah demir abdullahdemir.o...@gmail.com:I think it

Re: [TEAM] ISO target size

2015-02-11 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
While the media size is one of the concerns, it's not the only one. Download times are an argument for keeping as small as possible; the smaller our ISOs are, the less time they take to download. Of course, if something is considered essential, then it can be added, but the starting point should

Hacking on the installer slideshow

2015-02-11 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello, for the parties interested in helping with the documentation, namely the installer slideshow, we will be having a sprint to work on the 15.04 installer slideshow content and presentation on Saturday, Feb 14 at 15UTC on #xubuntu-devel As always, the event is open for everybody. Ideas