Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Well, I don't dislike Nader. His ideas are good ones, but in the grand scheme of things he is not helping the situation by running. Every vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. It's as simple as that. Inflamed? I am totally digusted at this shitstorm. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:14:53 -, Andrew Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What truly confounds me is how close the race is between Boosh and Kerry...and how they just ignore Nader as if he's not there. I mean there are people this time, who usually don't vote, voting against Boosh, just to oust him and it's still neck and neck. Damn. The Boosh lackeys were caught last time discounting the the black vote...and got away with it, and it's going to happen again...Boosh is the evil prince. Sorry to flare up off topic like this. I''ve just been a little inflamed at the moment here at work. A poor sucker working among the wealthy republican crust that develops between the elephant's toes. Hard to see daylight. -YH --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ESO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying moment for the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, and the people do not revolt then we are truly dumb all over. I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? Milhouse? On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:48 -, Andrew Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it almost surreal? I cannot believe this shit. How a man who wasn't even elected in the first place is going to be president without being elected again. Eff'n amazing, how he continually escapes impeachment. -YH --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny ODare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, it's Groundhog Day the sequel: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm Of course, it is just a coincidence that these 58,000 votes go missing in Florida, where Dubya's cousin in is charge. Just a coincidence that they go missing in a strongly Democratic Party area of Florida. Just a coincidence that they go missing in an election which is almost cetainly going to go to the wire. Looks like, again, the lawyers and the Supreme Court (which, by just a coincidence, is solidly reactionary/conservative/Republican) are going to decide who is going to be the next US president and the fate of the world (especially Iraqis). Deep in gloom, DANNY Send instant messages to your online friends http:// uk.messenger.yahoo.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Many Thanks!
I definitely have to second that. I've met lots of friendly and helpful folks here. I'm glad to be a part of it all. Joseph - Original Message - From: CF To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Many Thanks! To all who0 have turned me on to all the shows and music since I joined this wonderful group! Keep em comming and I'll pass em on! Thanks to Colsten for the free mp3's.Always wanted to hear the Pauley Pav.1971 show!Carry on and have a great weekend folks!ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Noam Chomsky: What the public wants is called politically unrealistic. Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it. Mark I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd love to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform seems too idealistic to most. The solution is there he'd just need to get the rest on board, which sadly would probably prove fruitless. I mean superficially, I certainly don't make 50 grand a year and I'd appreciate a tax break. I'm on board with nearly, if not all Nader has to say. I really wish your statement about voting for Nader wasn't true, but it probably is. Revolutionaries always spoil corrupt systems - indeed. -YH Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again Diebold will see to it that exactly that happens. Ever read about these cretins? Scary! Mark from Swing State Michigan What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the popular vote? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Could be rough. Legal challenges re going to be EVERYWHERE! I think it could be a good thing, though. A heightened awareness of elective procedure would benefit people. Seen Palast's report on black-vote suppression again in Florida and Ohio? Mark, Naderite I cannot take the polls seriously. Especially when you look at where they are coming from... The really fucked up thing about this is we may not really know who actually won for a few days to a week. Do not get your hopes up. I have a feeling this is going to be worse than 2000. Of course I hope not, but this administration will stop at nothing to win, and it won't be fairly. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:17:04 -0500, Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
It's not his fault; he isn't helping though. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:32:01 -0400, Mark Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diebold will see to it that exactly that happens. Ever read about these cretins? Scary! Mark from Swing State Michigan What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the popular vote? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain
I agree it could be a good thing in the long run. It seems ridiculous that here in the twenty-first century voting fraud is so easily possible. Some of the newer computerized voting machines are even less reliable and un-checkable. Some communities have sent back their Debold machines because they don't create any kind of paper trail or backup that would allow a recount. It boggles my mind to think about it. I think it should be set up so that a voter can log onto a website and double check his/her vote and see that it was counted as intended. I guess that would present potential problems with the secrete ballot thing though. There must be some way the system could be redone. Perhaps we could be given a receipt with a long number that would be detached from a corresponding paper ballot or spit out of the machine to anonymously verify our votes with? I would even be willing to give them a few extra days to count the vote if I could just be sure that fraud would be imposable or at least less likely. As the worlds oldest functioning democracy / republic ( or so I'm told ) it's embarrassing that we can't know for sure that an election is honest. After all it's not just the presidential vote. We count on the congress to provide the checks and balances on the president (very important at times) and they are still elected directly by the people. Jim L - Original Message - From: Mark Darling To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain Could be rough. Legal challenges re going to be EVERYWHERE! I think it couldbe a good thing, though. A heightened awareness of elective procedure wouldbenefit people. Seen Palast's report on black-vote suppression again inFlorida and Ohio?Mark, Naderite I cannot take the polls seriously. Especially when you look at where they are coming from... The really fucked up thing about this is we may not really know who actually won for a few days to a week. Do not get your hopes up. I have a feeling this is going to be worse than 2000. Of course I hope not, but this administration will stop at nothing to win, and it won't be fairly. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:17:04 -0500, Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] REOFFER - Buffalo speed corrected + mystery disc
Hello all -- The Buffalo 74 concert, plus second bonus mystery disc, is now mine to offer you,with heartfelt thanksto Mike A. This is all FLAC soundboard, so first to shoot me your address offlist, and promises to reoffer, will get this in the mail very soon. This is one of the hotter packages going around at the moment, giving us twolineups in two concerts. I KNOW someone wants this. group thanks too, Joseph heres the setlist/info for buffalo, as i recieved itFrank ZappaMemorial Auditorium, Buffalo, N.Y.November, 15, 19741st gen SBD tapeSoundforgeEACCDREACFLAC SoundforgePitchcorrectionFlacPart of a batch of tapes obtained from former Zappa road manager Dick Barber.F Zappa - Gtr,vclsN M Brock - Sax,flute,vclsG Duke - Kbds,vclsR Underwood - PercussionC Thompson - DrumsT Fowler - BassF Zappa - Gtr,vclsN M Brock - Sax,flute,vclsG Duke - Kbds,vclsR Underwood - PercussionC Thompson - DrumsT Fowler - Bass Tracklist:tush tush tush (a token of my extreme)stinkfootrdnzlvillage of the sunechidna's 'arf (of you)don't you ever wash that thing?penguin in bondaget'mershi duweendog breath variationsuncle meatbuilding a girlwhen breaking across 2 discs, there is a break in the music heredon't eat the yellow snownanook rubs itst. alphonso's pancake breakfastfather o'blivionTush Tush outrocamarillo brillomore trouble every day and the mystery disc? it is the early set of a 2 show nightcirca 1980.thats all i'm saying, except that heres the lineage:SB?CDR (EAC Secure mode)wav (CEP, split corrected)flac (Frontendwith SBE correction)***except the last 2 tracks, which is SB?cassettewav (CEP, tracksplitted)flac (Frontend with SBE correction) For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
