[Zappa-List] Re: Vine moving - Felt Forum Halloween '76 - 6 disks, wav format
Hello all, just got this from Bart, thanks. R2daft2, could you send me your snail mail address, please. r2suokas --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, bartozjad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, i just have got it - thankyou very gladly :-) Now I need Arto's address Artoo Dee Tooo where are you Regards Bart Arto(Fin)r2daft2(UK)??? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE : [Zappa-List] Re: Re : VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc
Hi every body againback from holidays, I found this disc from the ancient ages but rather pretty good sounding. please , Nick in Uk , send me your adrress and you'll get it too.thierrythierry (fr)nick (uk)john g in kansas (us)???darkokoretic [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Out to thierry (fr) 08/01 .DarkoRe: Re : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc wow---moi w/ don cherry---i'd like to get in on this one as well---i'll putmyself on the end of this vine, which i assume will be hoppinated at somepoint---thanks!!!---john g in kansasdarkokoreticthierry (fr)nick (uk)john g in kansas (us)???- Original Message -From: "Nick Ullmann" ullmannnick@...To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:13 AMSubject: RE: Re : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc darkokoretic thierry (FR) nick (UK) Kind Regards, nick Original Message Follows From: thierry barbier correque46@... Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: Re : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:59:51 + (GMT) Hi every body I'd be very glad to get this one I send my addy promise to darko many thanks to him thierry darkokoretic thierry (FR) - Message d'origine De : darkokoretic darko.koretic@... À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Envoyé le : Vendredi, 28 Juillet 2006, 11h21mn 10s Objet : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc Thanks to EL electricloopstation @telenet. be I can reoffer this vine , address and promise please . Darko. INFO : MOTHERS OF INVENTION GUEST - DON CHERRY -trumpet flute Date: Oct 3, 1968 Venue: Tivoli Gardens, Copenhagen Sets: Media: CDR Number: 2 Source: aud? guest:Don Cherry Quality: B B- Notes: CD1 - 2 long tracks TRACK 1 Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnetimprov Help I'm A Rock improv TRACK 2Improv (cont)//Absolutely Free w/ There's A Small HotelRock-a- bye BabyPrelude to the Afternoon Of A Sexually Aroused GasmaskTeddy Bear MarchIn The Sky(cut)/ The String Quartet,Legend of The Golden Arches (cont) CD2 2 long tracks TRACK 1String Quartet (cont)Sleeping In A Jar/Improv w/Don Cherry (cut) TRACK 2Orange County Lumber Truck: Legend Of The Golden Arches, Sleeping In A Jar, CDR from trade eac flac front end(level 8) YOU! Ripped for DIME-A-DOZEN by GaryM Apr 9, 2006 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]--[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] __._,_.___ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE : RE: [Zappa-List] VO ZPZ 4 shows on data DVD Tower Theatre, Mazda Palace, Hummingbird Centre, RAH
Hi every bodyI'm backfrom holidays and have not found any answer to my call to Electricloop. so I try again : please Mr Electricloop, send me your snail mail address, I have a disc to send to you !thierryThierry Barbier-FR ElectricLoopstation2 in Belgium njks.geo - US John G - US Kevcaf@ - US Skipsign- US Jim D - US thierry barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:Hi every body thanks to Les Watts, I received this disc. please, ElectricLoop, send me offlist ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]fr) your address you will get it soon best regards thierryLes Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]com a écrit:The disc arrived safely today and will be on its way to Thierry as soon as I can get an address confirmation.Cheers Les. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:Zappa-[EMAIL PROTECTED].com]On Behalf Of A F HarroldSent: 28 July 2006 10:07To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: [Zappa-List] VO ZPZ 4 shows on data DVD Tower Theatre, Mazda Palace, Hummingbird Centre, RAHAs far as I can see this is the most recent-ish version of the vine, so I need an address from r2daft2, please.Ashley.Ashley Harrold (UK) r2daft2 (UK) Thierry Barbier-FR ElectricLoopstation2 in Belgium njks.geo - US John G - US Kevcaf@ - US Skipsign- US Jim D - US __._,_.___ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer UK starting point
No-one has come forward with a complete copy so I won't delay any longer and I'll be sending out to Ashley later on this afternoon. Should the show be reseeded at a later date I'll grab it and send it out. Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks
Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks Richard Williams, Melody Maker, 25 August 1973 HIS ARMS AROUND a red-haired girl whose ample chest was covered with a Mighty Thor t-shirt, debonair Frank Zappa (32) sank deeper into the couch, flexed his bare bronzed torso, refused a Gitane ? Too strong for me ? and concentrated his mind on the latest edition of the Mothers of Invention. This is the first of my bands, he said, which possesses the technical facility to play the harder stuff from memory. The band, an octet, is currently on tour in Europe, and makes its only British concert appearance at the Empire Pool, Wembley, on September 14. The new lineup, which has already completed two tours of America and one in Australia, comprises Zappa on guitar and vocals, Jean-Luc Ponty (violin), Ian Underwood (clarinet, bass-clarinet, flute, synthesiser), Bruce Fowler (trombone), George Duke (keyboards), Tom Fowler (bass-guitar), Ralph Humphrey (drums), and Ruth Underwood ? Ian's wife ? on marimba, vibes, typani, and assorted small percussion. It is not, said Frank, in any way a successor to or continuation from the 20-piece Grand Wazoo/Hot Rats orchestra which appeared at the Oval cricket ground last year. It doesn't sound like any band of any sort that you've heard any place ? the instrumentation alone gives it a completely different tone quality. As a result of the widely differing timbres of the instruments, you get a lot of contrast. Much of their material, too, is unfamiliar. 'St Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast', 'Don't Eat The Yellow Snow', two blues called 'Penguin In Bondage' and 'Slough My Throng', and lastly something called, 'Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?' which Frank describes as an instrumental with choreography. They'll also be playing some old favourites, specifically 'The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue', 'Green Genes', 'King Kong', 'Chunga's Revenge', and ? for the first time in five years and by popular demand ? 'Brown Shoes Don't Make It'. To coincide with the tour, there is (inevitably) A New Album ? by the same personnel plus trumpeter Sal Marquez. It's called Over-Nite Sensation, and contains none of the compositions mentioned above. Instead, it sounds like another sneaky attempt by the Mothers of Invention to get their cruddy music on the radio. There didn't seem much more to say about this new band until we'd all got a chance to hear it, so Frank discussed the Grand Wazoo tour: All the concerts were great ? except the one in London. It's tough to take a 20-piece electric band to a frozen cricket ground where the audience is trying to tear down the goal-posts (?) and burn them to keep themselves warm. But we broke all records at the Felt Forum in New York. The Grand Wazoo seemed, I suggested, like a pinnacle of his career, the object he's always been aiming at right from the days of Freak Out. It would have been that kind of a climax, if the band had been able to memorise the arrangements, and if the technical equipment had been of the right quality. The only thing that's important is whether you have the opportunity and the money to present your crazed ideas properly. 200 Motels wasn't done properly because there wasn't enough time or money. The Wazoo tour, for instance, did five concerts and grossed 90,000 dollars ? and I lost 2,000 dollars of my money on it. There was no way that I was going to make any. I gauge the success of something by whether I can appreciate the outcome on a personal spectator level. If all the parts aren't audible, it isn't right ? and that goes back to the technology and the money to provide it. On 200 Motels, the orchestra beat the shit out of the music ? they just didn't play it properly. I couldn't even recognise it when they'd finished. Most of the actors were non-professionals, and the whole thing was shot in 56 hours. We all needed more time, and if I'd had it, I've have gotten better performances out of everybody, because they were the right people for those roles. In spite of that, I think it was a good film, and I believe that over a period of years you're going to find out how many strange predictions in the script actually come true. Such as what? Well, pay particular attention to the dialogue between Mark, Howard, and Aynsley. No matter how twisted you think that plot is, it's based on things that had happened, or on things that were based on suppositions extrapolated from mathematical predictions of people's personalities. Returning to technology, Zappa explained that they've brought the PA system which used to belong to Chicago. It's a 52-input stereo system, with all kinds of studio-type facilities like limiters, compressors, tape-delay, phase-shifters, and variable equalisers. The guy who's mixing it all for us is Gary McNab, who engineered our last six albums. We finally got him out on the road. He's the third mixer this band has had ? the first one was Stephen Desper,
[Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968 Copenhagen-1 disc
I'd like to get in line for this one, if I could. Thanks, John K thierry (fr)nick (uk)john g in kansas (us) john k in california (us) ??? In a message dated 9/5/2006 4:30:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi every body again back from holidays, I found this disc from the ancient ages but rather pretty good sounding. please , Nick in Uk , send me your adrress and you'll get it too. thierry thierry (fr)nick (uk)john g in kansas (us)???darkokoretic [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Out to thierry (fr) 08/01 .DarkoRe: Re : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc wow---moi w/ don cherry---i'd like to get in on this one as well---i'll putmyself on the end of this vine, which i assume will be hoppinated at somepoint---thanks!!!---john g in kansasdarkokoreticthierry (fr)nick (uk)john g in kansas (us)???- Original Message -From: "Nick Ullmann" ullmannnick@...To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:13 AMSubject: RE: Re : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc darkokoretic thierry (FR) nick (UK) Kind Regards, nick Original Message Follows From: thierry barbier correque46@... Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Subject: Re : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:59:51 + (GMT) Hi every body I'd be very glad to get this one I send my addy promise to darko many thanks to him thierry darkokoretic thierry (FR) - Message d'origine De : darkokoretic darko.koretic@... À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Envoyé le : Vendredi, 28 Juillet 2006, 11h21mn 10s Objet : [Zappa-List] VO-MOTHERS OF INVENTION with DON CHERRY Oct 3, 1968Copenhagen-1 disc Thanks to EL electricloopstation @telenet. be I can reoffer this vine , address and promise please . Darko. INFO : MOTHERS OF INVENTION GUEST - DON CHERRY -trumpet flute Date: Oct 3, 1968 Venue: Tivoli Gardens, Copenhagen Sets: Media: CDR Number: 2 Source: aud? guest:Don Cherry Quality: B B- Notes: CD1 - 2 long tracks TRACK 1 Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnetimprov Help I'm A Rock improv TRACK 2Improv (cont)//Absolutely Free w/ There's A Small HotelRock-a- bye BabyPrelude to the Afternoon Of A Sexually Aroused GasmaskTeddy Bear MarchIn The Sky(cut)/ The String Quartet,Legend of The Golden Arches (cont) CD2 2 long tracks TRACK 1String Quartet (cont)Sleeping In A Jar/Improv w/Don Cherry (cut) TRACK 2Orange County Lumber Truck: Legend Of The Golden Arches, Sleeping In A Jar, CDR from trade eac flac front end(level 8) YOU! Ripped for DIME-A-DOZEN by GaryM Apr 9, 2006 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]--[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] __._,_.___ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks
Cool!!! Thanks, Chris! SOFA - Original Message - From: Chris Warner To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com ; Peter Warner Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future ShocksRichard Williams, Melody Maker, 25 August 1973HIS ARMS AROUND a red-haired girl whose ample chest was covered with a MightyThor t-shirt, debonair Frank Zappa (32) sank deeper into the couch, flexed hisbare bronzed torso, refused a Gitane ? "Too strong for me" ? and concentratedhis mind on the latest edition of the Mothers of Invention."This is the first of my bands," he said, "which possesses the technicalfacility to play the harder stuff from memory."The band, an octet, is currently on tour in Europe, and makes its only Britishconcert appearance at the Empire Pool, Wembley, on September 14. The new lineup,which has already completed two tours of America and one in Australia, comprisesZappa on guitar and vocals, Jean-Luc Ponty (violin), Ian Underwood (clarinet,bass-clarinet, flute, synthesiser), Bruce Fowler (trombone), George Duke(keyboards), Tom Fowler (bass-guitar), Ralph Humphrey (drums), and RuthUnderwood ? Ian's wife ? on marimba, vibes, typani, and assorted "smallpercussion."It is not, said Frank, in any way a successor to or continuation from the20-piece Grand Wazoo/Hot Rats orchestra which appeared at the Oval cricketground last year."It doesn't sound like any band of any sort that you've heard any place ? theinstrumentation alone gives it a completely different tone quality. As a resultof the widely differing timbres of the instruments, you get a lot of contrast."Much of their material, too, is unfamiliar. 'St Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast','Don't Eat The Yellow Snow', two blues called 'Penguin In Bondage' and 'SloughMy Throng', and lastly something called, 'Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?' whichFrank describes as "an instrumental with choreography."They'll also be playing some old favourites, specifically 'The Eric DolphyMemorial Barbecue', 'Green Genes', 'King Kong', 'Chunga's Revenge', and ? forthe first time in five years and by popular demand ? 'Brown Shoes Don't MakeIt'.To coincide with the tour, there is (inevitably) A New Album ? by the samepersonnel plus trumpeter Sal Marquez. It's called Over-Nite Sensation, andcontains none of the compositions mentioned above. Instead, it sounds likeanother sneaky attempt by the Mothers of Invention to get their cruddy music onthe radio.There didn't seem much more to say about this new band until we'd all got achance to hear it, so Frank discussed the Grand Wazoo tour: "All the concertswere great ? except the one in London."It's tough to take a 20-piece electric band to a frozen cricket ground wherethe audience is trying to tear down the goal-posts (?) and burn them to keepthemselves warm. But we broke all records at the Felt Forum in New York."The Grand Wazoo seemed, I suggested, like a pinnacle of his career, the objecthe's always been aiming at right from the days of Freak Out."It would have been that kind of a climax, if the band had been able to memorisethe arrangements, and if the technical equipment had been of the right quality.The only thing that's important is whether you have the opportunity and themoney to present your crazed ideas properly."200 Motels wasn't done properly because there wasn't enough time or money. TheWazoo tour, for instance, did five concerts and grossed 90,000 dollars ? and Ilost 2,000 dollars of my money on it. There was no way that I was going to makeany."I gauge the success of something by whether I can appreciate the outcome on apersonal spectator level. If all the parts aren't audible, it isn't right ? andthat goes back to the technology and the money to provide it."On 200 Motels, the orchestra beat the shit out of the music ? they just didn'tplay it properly. I couldn't even recognise it when they'd finished. Most of theactors were non-professionals, and the whole thing was shot in 56 hours. We allneeded more time, and if I'd had it, I've have gotten better performances out ofeverybody, because they were the right people for those roles."In spite of that, I think it was a good film, and I believe that over a periodof years you're going to find out how many strange predictions in the scriptactually come true."Such as what?"Well, pay particular attention to the dialogue between Mark, Howard, andAynsley. No matter how twisted you think that plot is, it's based on things thathad happened, or on things that were based on suppositions extrapolated frommathematical predictions of people's personalities."Returning to technology, Zappa explained that they've brought the PA systemwhich used to belong to Chicago. It's
[Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move
Hi folks, My copy is in the mail to John in California..I believe the vine-age goes like this so far for the US.. chris (USA)john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g in kansas (US) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:29:43 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer US legTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chris,Myaddress is:John Keating 5248 Sunny Point Pl Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275Thanks!John K -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 2:59 PMSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer US legSounds fine. John K in Calif., email me your snail address and I will get this on da move!! Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hmmm, good question... There hasn't been quite the excitement on the Euro side as on the States side. I'd say this one is worthy of a split, and - as John Keating was the first to respond - John should be the first US recipient. John, you know the drill... The US leg should appear thus then: john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g inkansas (US)luis (Ar)Jose (South America?) And the Euro leg thusly: ashley harrold (UK)arto (Finland) When Ashley mails this off to Arto, maybe he could change the subject header of the original post (with his response that the disk has been mailed, of course) to Euro leg, and adjust the vine list accordingly? It would be greatly appreciated! Regards, SOFA- Original Message - From: chris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer ...REQUEST to help seedHi ya friends, It seems alot of folks would like this, so if it's the same copy as the link here from zappateers, I would be happy to expedite this vine by making a copy and vining it here for the US leg of the vine. What say ye Mr SOFA? Let me know where be da starting point after me and I will get it in da mail in the morning. Here's the link to where I got my copy... http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3728 Let me know. Happy to help spread da music! Chris "Music is The Best!"Frank Zappa/ `--'( ,,, [] []|:::)\_.--.( Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free."Music is The Best!" Frank Zappa/ `--'( ,,, [] []|:::)\_.--.( How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. __._,_.___ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move
well, don´t forget i´m at the end of the vine:The US leg should appear thus then: john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g inkansas (US)luis (Ar)cheers Luis chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi folks, My copy is in the mail to John in California..I believe the vine-age goes like this so far for the US.. chris (USA)john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g in kansas (US) [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:29:43 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer US legTo: chrisforeman2002@yahoo.com Hi Chris,Myaddress is:John Keating 5248 Sunny Point Pl Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275Thanks!John K -Original Message-From: chrisforeman2002@yahoo.comTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSent: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 2:59 PMSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer US legSounds fine. John K in Calif., email me your snail address and I will get this on da move!! Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]net wrote:Hmmm, good question... There hasn't been quite the excitement on the Euro side as on the States side. I'd say this one is worthy of a split, and - as John Keating was the first to respond - John should be the first US recipient. John, you know the drill... The US leg should appear thus then: john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g inkansas (US)luis (Ar)Jose (South America?) And the Euro leg thusly: ashley harrold (UK)arto (Finland) When Ashley mails this off to Arto, maybe he could change the subject header of the original post (with his response that the disk has been mailed, of course) to Euro leg, and adjust the vine list accordingly? It would be greatly appreciated! Regards, SOFA- Original Message - From: chris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer ...REQUEST to help seedHi ya friends, It seems alot of folks would like this, so if it's the same copy as the link here from zappateers, I would be happy to expedite this vine by making a copy and vining it here for the US leg of the vine. What say ye Mr SOFA? Let me know where be da starting point after me and I will get it in da mail in the morning. Here's the link to where I got my copy... http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3728 Let me know. Happy to help spread da music! Chris "Music is The Best!"Frank Zappa/ `--'( ,,, [] []|:::)\_.--.( Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free."Music is The Best!"Frank Zappa/ `--'( ,,, [] []|:::)\_.--.( How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __._,_.___ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move
Richard, you did well. this is the way it works. Richard Derse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis, if you are not in the US, is it OK if I jump in as follows?The US leg should appear thus then: john k in california (US)hope i did this correctlythanks[EMAIL PROTECTED]--- On Tue 09/05, lusi tanio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: lusi tanio [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comDate: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:53:23 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move well, don´t forget i´m at the end of the vine:The US leg should appear thus then: john k in california (US)cheers Luis chris
[Zappa-List] re - FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move
Hope I'm doing this right. I have yet to get anywhere with vines like this... chris (USA)john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g in kansas (US) Steve Marshall (US-MO) I noticed my name doesn't appear on the Felt Forum vine again... :( Steve For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] re - FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move
I'll see if I can't figure out the Felt F-up for ya, Steve... And you're in line right after Richard Derse on this one. SOFA - Original Message - From: stevem To: No Reply Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] re - FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move Hope I'm doing this right. I have yet to get anywhere with vines like this...chris (USA)john k in california (US)sofa (US)john g in kansas (US) Steve Marshall (US-MO)I noticed my name doesn't appear on the Felt Forum vine again... :(Steve __._,_.___ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
RE: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks
Nice article. Its always interesting to get some insight about what Frank was thinking when these vintage recordings were made. So he thought felt forum was a good one and so on. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Warner Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:30 AM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com; Peter Warner Subject: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks Richard Williams, Melody Maker, 25 August 1973 HIS ARMS AROUND a red-haired girl whose ample chest was covered with a Mighty Thor t-shirt, debonair Frank Zappa (32) sank deeper into the couch, flexed his bare bronzed torso, refused a Gitane ? Too strong for me ? and concentrated his mind on the latest edition of the Mothers of Invention. This is the first of my bands, he said, which possesses the technical facility to play the harder stuff from memory. The band, an octet, is currently on tour in Europe, and makes its only British concert appearance at the Empire Pool, Wembley, on September 14. The new lineup, which has already completed two tours of America and one in Australia, comprises Zappa on guitar and vocals, Jean-Luc Ponty (violin), Ian Underwood (clarinet, bass-clarinet, flute, synthesiser), Bruce Fowler (trombone), George Duke (keyboards), Tom Fowler (bass-guitar), Ralph Humphrey (drums), and Ruth Underwood ? Ian's wife ? on marimba, vibes, typani, and assorted small percussion. It is not, said Frank, in any way a successor to or continuation from the 20-piece Grand Wazoo/Hot Rats orchestra which appeared at the Oval cricket ground last year. It doesn't sound like any band of any sort that you've heard any place ? the instrumentation alone gives it a completely different tone quality. As a result of the widely differing timbres of the instruments, you get a lot of contrast. Much of their material, too, is unfamiliar. 'St Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast', 'Don't Eat The Yellow Snow', two blues called 'Penguin In Bondage' and 'Slough My Throng', and lastly something called, 'Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?' which Frank describes as an instrumental with choreography. They'll also be playing some old favourites, specifically 'The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue', 'Green Genes', 'King Kong', 'Chunga's Revenge', and ? for the first time in five years and by popular demand ? 'Brown Shoes Don't Make It'. To coincide with the tour, there is (inevitably) A New Album ? by the same personnel plus trumpeter Sal Marquez. It's called Over-Nite Sensation, and contains none of the compositions mentioned above. Instead, it sounds like another sneaky attempt by the Mothers of Invention to get their cruddy music on the radio. There didn't seem much more to say about this new band until we'd all got a chance to hear it, so Frank discussed the Grand Wazoo tour: All the concerts were great ? except the one in London. It's tough to take a 20-piece electric band to a frozen cricket ground where the audience is trying to tear down the goal-posts (?) and burn them to keep themselves warm. But we broke all records at the Felt Forum in New York. The Grand Wazoo seemed, I suggested, like a pinnacle of his career, the object he's always been aiming at right from the days of Freak Out. It would have been that kind of a climax, if the band had been able to memorise the arrangements, and if the technical equipment had been of the right quality. The only thing that's important is whether you have the opportunity and the money to present your crazed ideas properly. 200 Motels wasn't done properly because there wasn't enough time or money. The Wazoo tour, for instance, did five concerts and grossed 90,000 dollars ? and I lost 2,000 dollars of my money on it. There was no way that I was going to make any. I gauge the success of something by whether I can appreciate the outcome on a personal spectator level. If all the parts aren't audible, it isn't right ? and that goes back to the technology and the money to provide it. On 200 Motels, the orchestra beat the shit out of the music ? they just didn't play it properly. I couldn't even recognise it when they'd finished. Most of the actors were non-professionals, and the whole thing was shot in 56 hours. We all needed more time, and if I'd had it, I've have gotten better performances out of everybody, because they were the right people for those roles. In spite of that, I think it was a good film, and I believe that over a period of years you're going to find out how many strange predictions in the script actually come true. Such as what? Well, pay particular attention to the dialogue between Mark, Howard, and Aynsley. No matter how twisted you think that plot is, it's based on things that had happened, or on things that were based on suppositions extrapolated from mathematical predictions of people's personalities.
