Re: [Zappa-List] Bit Torrent Dilemnas

[Mark D.]

I'm downloading an FZ interview with BitTorrent as I write, Jim. Thanks 
for your help, man! I'm going to set my ports according to your specs 
for my next download to make a comparison.
Mark

Jim L wrote:

> Most clients use only one port per download. They start at the bottom 
> 6881 and if you start a second download 6882 is used and so on. ISP's 
> are starting to cap and in a few cases block the known port ranges 
> however. For this reason many of the newer clients are using much 
> higher port ranges. Many also randomly change the port range. This is 
> causing problems for people that need to configure their firewalls and 
> forward ports in their router as all that must match the ports the 
> client software uses. Most of the clients that offer random ports as a 
> feature have an option to lock it down to a specified range in the 
> configuration however. Also another school of thought is that allowing 
> multiple torrents to use the same open port number is a good idea. 
> After all the more open and forwarded ports you have the more your 
> security is lowered even if just a tiny bit. Also XP with the SP2 
> firewall usually only allows one open port at a time unless you 
> manually configure services like this.
> http://www.geocities.com/gruven42/xpfwbt/xp_firewall_bt.htm
> If you use easytree as well as zappaters their page should show you 
> without the red port numbers if everything is configured properly. 
> Remember that you only need to configure as many ports as you think 
> you would ever have torrents running. In other words if you never 
> download and or seed more than 3 torrents at a time you only need to 
> open three ports.
>  
> My advise is to dump your client and try the all new original 
> BitTorrent client 4.0. Set it to a high range like starting at 59321. 
> Set all your firewall and port forwarding to the new higher range and 
> see what happens. Finish your downloads first however. Also set it to 
> always save in the folder you usually save the torrent folders in. 
> I've tried several clients and this one seems to be the most stable 
> and has the least drag on my system. The new version just came out and 
> has a bunch of new features.
> http://www.bittorrent.com/
>  
> Now to answer your question about speed. If your allowing your client 
> software to upload at your connections maximum speed it will slow your 
> download. This is because for each piece you download a response file 
> must be sent telling the peer you downloaded from that the piece was 
> received. This is separate from the data your uploading to peers and 
> is just part of the presses. If your upload rate is maxed out it can 
> choke off the communication of your download and the download will 
> slow. What you want to do is join a large swarm and determine what 
> your maximum upload rate is and then turn it down just a little like 
> maybe 10 or 15%. This will allow free communication about your 
> downloaded pieces and they should come faster. Keep in mind that the 
> bittorrent protocol itself is a tit for tat system and generally the 
> faster you can upload the faster your download will go so don't turn 
> down the upload speed to much.
>
> Jim L 
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mark D. 
> *To:* Zappa List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:33 PM
> *Subject:* [Zappa-List] Bit Torrent Dilemnas
>
>
> Greetings, community. I've been getting into Zappateers a bit lately,
> and I'm wondering if someone on here can tell me if there is anything I
> can do to increase my bit torrent download speeds. I believe I already
> established a static IP address and my Windows firewall seems to have
> made accomodations for my torrent client (called eXeem) for ports
> 6881-6888 or 6889 or so, but some of these shows are taking 24 hours or
> more. I have a cable modem, btw. When I look at the the network
> configuration of the client it says the listen port is 6881; does this
> indicate that it is NOT using the higher ports? I hope these questions
> are relevant; this stuff's new to me.
> Mark
>
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Re: [Zappa-List] Bit Torrent Dilemnas

[Jim L]

Most clients use only one port per 
download. They start at the bottom 6881 and if you start a second download 6882 
is used and so on. ISP's are starting to cap and in a few cases block the known 
port ranges however. For this reason many of the newer clients are using much 
higher port ranges. Many also randomly change the port range. This is causing 
problems for people that need to configure their firewalls and forward ports in 
their router as all that must match the ports the client software uses. Most of 
the clients that offer random ports as a feature have an option to lock it down 
to a specified range in the configuration however. Also another school of 
thought is that allowing multiple torrents to use the same open port number is a 
good idea. After all the more open and forwarded ports you have the more your 
security is lowered even if just a tiny bit. Also XP with the SP2 firewall 
usually only allows one open port at a time unless you manually configure 
services like this. 
http://www.geocities.com/gruven42/xpfwbt/xp_firewall_bt.htm
If you use easytree as well as 
zappaters their page should show you without the red port numbers if everything 
is configured properly. Remember that you only need to configure as many ports 
as you think you would ever have torrents running. In other words if you never 
download and or seed more than 3 torrents at a time you only need to open three 
ports. 
 
My advise is to dump your client and 
try the all new original BitTorrent client 4.0. Set it to a high range like 
starting at 59321. Set all your firewall and port forwarding to the new higher 
range and see what happens. Finish your downloads first however. Also set it to 
always save in the folder you usually save the torrent folders in. I've tried 
several clients and this one seems to be the most stable and has the least drag 
on my system. The new version just came out and has a bunch of new 
features.
http://www.bittorrent.com/
 
Now to answer your question about 
speed. If your allowing your client software to upload at your connections 
maximum speed it will slow your download. This is because for each piece 
you download a response file must be sent telling the peer you downloaded from 
that the piece was received. This is separate from the data your uploading 
to peers and is just part of the presses. If your upload rate is maxed out it 
can choke off the communication of your download and the download will slow. 
What you want to do is join a large swarm and determine what your maximum upload 
rate is and then turn it down just a little like maybe 10 or 15%. This will 
allow free communication about your downloaded pieces and they should come 
faster. Keep in mind that the bittorrent protocol itself is a tit for tat system 
and generally the faster you can upload the faster your download will go so 
don't turn down the upload speed to much. 
Jim L 

- Original Message - 
From: Mark D. 
To: Zappa List 
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:33 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Bit Torrent Dilemnas
Greetings, community. I've been getting into Zappateers a bit 
lately, and I'm wondering if someone on here can tell me if there is 
anything I can do to increase my bit torrent download speeds. I believe I 
already established a static IP address and my Windows firewall seems to 
have made accomodations for my torrent client (called eXeem) for ports 
6881-6888 or 6889 or so, but some of these shows are taking 24 hours or 
more. I have a cable modem, btw. When I look at the the network 
configuration of the client it says the listen port is 6881; does this 
indicate that it is NOT using the higher ports? I hope these questions 
are relevant; this stuff's new to 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Bit Torrent Dilemnas

[Mark D.]

That's helpful, Gabriel, and explains a lot. Thanks!
Mark

Gabriel wrote:

>Mark, I´m not sure about eXeem, but I was configuring my router to
>bittorrent these days and I read somewhere that each port would be
>used for a transfer. If you´re getting a single file, I suppose it´s
>going to use only one. If you were to get another one simultaneously,
>port 6882 (in this case) would be used. About the low transfers, maybe
>there´s just few people seeding, I don´t know. The newer stuff are
>always easier to get, as everyone runs to it.
>
>Gabriel
>
>
>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:33:50 -0500, Mark D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Greetings, community. I've been getting into Zappateers a bit lately,
>>and I'm wondering if someone on here can tell me if there is anything I
>>can do to increase my bit torrent download speeds. I believe I already
>>established a static IP address and my Windows firewall seems to have
>>made accomodations for my torrent client (called eXeem) for ports
>>6881-6888 or 6889 or so, but some of these shows are taking 24 hours or
>>more. I have a cable modem, btw. When I look at the the network
>>configuration of the client it says the listen port is 6881; does this
>>indicate that it is NOT using the higher ports? I hope these questions
>>are relevant; this stuff's new to me.
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or 
>>http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>
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>http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Bit Torrent Dilemnas

[Gabriel]

Mark, I´m not sure about eXeem, but I was configuring my router to
bittorrent these days and I read somewhere that each port would be
used for a transfer. If you´re getting a single file, I suppose it´s
going to use only one. If you were to get another one simultaneously,
port 6882 (in this case) would be used. About the low transfers, maybe
there´s just few people seeding, I don´t know. The newer stuff are
always easier to get, as everyone runs to it.

Gabriel


On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:33:50 -0500, Mark D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Greetings, community. I've been getting into Zappateers a bit lately,
> and I'm wondering if someone on here can tell me if there is anything I
> can do to increase my bit torrent download speeds. I believe I already
> established a static IP address and my Windows firewall seems to have
> made accomodations for my torrent client (called eXeem) for ports
> 6881-6888 or 6889 or so, but some of these shows are taking 24 hours or
> more. I have a cable modem, btw. When I look at the the network
> configuration of the client it says the listen port is 6881; does this
> indicate that it is NOT using the higher ports? I hope these questions
> are relevant; this stuff's new to me.
> Mark
> 
> 
> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or 
> http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
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