Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread Mark Darling
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?





But Thingfish was '84 or so and the Harry part was huge. Could Frank have had that much material in store from 1978 to 1984? Could all that Harry and Rhonda dialogue be that old?

Mark

I'm not sure he ever returned to the fold; I rather doubt it. He was on those later albums because they were comprised of earlier recordings - right, Milhouse?
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread SOFA
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?





I'm not sure he ever returned to the fold; I rather doubt it. He was on 
those later albums because they were comprised of earlier recordings - right, 
Milhouse?
SOFA

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  Darling 
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  live...how many times did you see him ?
  No doubt, man. That was some surprising shit! Whatever happened 
  the relationship was obviously not permanently severed, since Terry was on 
  Joe's Garage and Thingfish.Mark


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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread Mark Darling
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?





No doubt, man. That was some surprising shit! Whatever happened the relationship was obviously not permanently severed, since Terry was on Joe's Garage and Thingfish.

Mark

Thanks for setting me straight on that one, Milhouse! I never knew...
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread SOFA





Thanks for setting me straight on that one, Milhouse! I never knew...
SOFA

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  Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:36 
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  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Frank 
  live...how many times did you see him ?
  In a message dated 10/10/2004 6:27:32 PM 
  Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I believe 
he left with Patrick O'Hearn and Warren Cucurrullo to form Missing Persons, 
with his wife Dale on Lead vocals...-Bozzio left early on in the 
  fall '78 rehearsals, I think or, more accurately, before they really even 
  began rehearsing but after FZ had basically already assembled the band / 
  decided who he wanted in the next touring band. The "rumor", if you like, I 
  heard before was Bozzio was probably doing coke at the time and came to early 
  meetings with the other band members wearing a cheesy suit, sunglasses and 
  having a kind of fucked up, snotty attitude towards everyone including Frank, 
  then decided he didn't want to be in the band.Keep in mind, Warren was 
  in the '79 touring band with Ike, Denny, Arthur, Vinnie, Peter and Tommy, 
  while Bozzio basically quit after the winter '78 tour. Missing Persons didn't 
  form until late '79, after Joe's Garage came out and after Frank had 
  constructed the UMRK in his home.--Milhouse For 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread Milhouse481


In a message dated 10/10/2004 6:27:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I believe he left with Patrick O'Hearn and Warren Cucurrullo to form Missing Persons, with his wife Dale on Lead vocals...

-Bozzio left early on in the fall '78 rehearsals, I think or, more accurately, before they really even began rehearsing but after FZ had basically already assembled the band / decided who he wanted in the next touring band. The "rumor", if you like, I heard before was Bozzio was probably doing coke at the time and came to early meetings with the other band members wearing a cheesy suit, sunglasses and having a kind of fucked up, snotty attitude towards everyone including Frank, then decided he didn't want to be in the band.

Keep in mind, Warren was in the '79 touring band with Ike, Denny, Arthur, Vinnie, Peter and Tommy, while Bozzio basically quit after the winter '78 tour. Missing Persons didn't form until late '79, after Joe's Garage came out and after Frank had constructed the UMRK in his home.

--Milhouse


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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread SOFA





I believe he left with Patrick O'Hearn and Warren Cucurrullo to form 
Missing Persons, with his wife Dale on Lead vocals...
SOFA
I 
  always thought Sheik was '79. He didn't leave BECAUSE it was released, 
  didhe?Mark> > The drummer must have been Chad 
  Wackerman. Bozzio left> in the first half of 1978(when Shiek Yerbouti 
  was> released).> > rh


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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread Milhouse481


In a message dated 10/10/2004 4:28:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The drummer must have been Chad Wackerman. Bozzio left
in the first half of 1978(when Shiek Yerbouti was
released).

-If Robert was correct about Ike Willis and Ray White being in the band, along with Steve Vai, it woulda hafta been 1980, hence Vinnie Colaiuta would have been the drummer. However, he said that it was in November or December of 1981 and they played "Drowning Witch", in which case he's misremembering Ike being in the band (he wasn't, in 1981) and the drummer would have been Chad, as you said.

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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread Mark Darling

I always thought Sheik was '79. He didn't leave BECAUSE it was released, did
he?

Mark
> 
> The drummer must have been Chad Wackerman. Bozzio left
> in the first half of 1978(when Shiek Yerbouti was
> released).
> 
> rh
> 
> --- Zappa Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I saw Zappa live twice ... both
>> shows that Frank did at the Maple Leaf Gardens in
>> november or december/81, I guess. The band had 4
>> guitar players: Frank, Steve Vai, Ike Willis and
>> Ray White; Terry Bozzio was the drummer. The
>> songlist included some beautiful music that I never
>> heard before - part of it would be released a few
>> months later in the Drowning Witch album.
>> Well, that?s it boys and girls.
>> 
>> Roberto (PotatoHeadBob)
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?

2004-10-10 Thread Roger Houston

The drummer must have been Chad Wackerman. Bozzio left
in the first half of 1978(when Shiek Yerbouti was
released).

rh

--- Zappa Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I saw Zappa live twice ... both
> shows that Frank did at the Maple Leaf Gardens in
> november or december/81, I guess. The band had 4
> guitar players: Frank, Steve Vai, Ike Willis and 
> Ray White; Terry Bozzio was the drummer. The
> songlist included some beautiful music that I never
> heard before - part of it would be released a few
> months later in the Drowning Witch album.
> Well, that´s it boys and girls.
>  
> Roberto (PotatoHeadBob)
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?With guest stars?

2004-10-09 Thread Zappa Fan



Don´t forget Van Morrison (There´s a version of Dead Girls of London with VM as a guest star at the Leatherette boot...
PHB
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Don Cherry comes to mind...
Joni Mitchell too.
I'm sure there's more.
SOFA

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Adjunctive question: I've heard boots with Al DeMeiola and Chris Cross's roadie (which I thought was very funny). And of course there was Lennon, Sting, Shankar and Archie Shepp. Who else has guest starred that never made it to official release?Mark
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank live...how many times did you see him ?With guest stars?

2004-10-09 Thread Zappa Fan



Don´t forget Van Morrison (There´s a version of Dead Girls of London with VM as a guest star at the Leatherette boot...
PHB
---SOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Don Cherry comes to mind...
Joni Mitchell too.
I'm sure there's more.
SOFA

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Adjunctive question: I've heard boots with Al DeMeiola and Chris Cross's roadie (which I thought was very funny). And of course there was Lennon, Sting, Shankar and Archie Shepp. Who else has guest starred that never made it to official release?Mark
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