Re: [zekr] Re: New Quran Translation
Alaikum Salam Sorry to bother you again, but this is regarding Ali Quli Qarai's translation. He does not have a tafsir of course, but there are footnotes, wherein he has either included references to other verses, or brief explanations to few words, or the reading of a few words with regards to Asim, Khalaf, or even the Imams, with reference to the different Tafasir. I hadn't included the footnotes at the start while formatting the original file, and now thought it a better time to work on them. First question is, is it worthwhile to be added to zekr? And more importantly, how would you go about adding footnotes whereien one verse could have numerous notes, for instance: 7the path of those whom You have blessed*[1]*file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftn1 —such as*[2]*file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftn2have not incurred Your wrath, *[3]* file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftn3 nor are astray.*[4]*file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftn4 -- [1] file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftnref1 For further Qur’¡nic references to ‘those whom Allah has blessed,’ see *4*:69 and *19*:58; see also *5*:23, 110; *12*:6; *27*:19; *28*:17; *43*:59; *48* :2. [2] file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftnref2 This is in accordance with the *qir¡’ah* of ‘ª¥im, *ghayril-magh¤£bi*. However, in accordance with an alternative, and perhaps preferable, reading * ghayral-magh¤£bi* (attributed to Imam ‘Al¢ b. Ab¢ ±¡lib (*‘a*) as well as to Ibn Mas‘£d and Ubayy b. Ka‘b among the Companions, and to Ibn Kath¢r al-Makk¢, among the seven authorities of *qir¡’ah*), the translation will be: ‘not of those who have incurred Your wrath, nor those who are astray.’ (see *Mu‘jam al-Qir¡’¡t al-Qur’¡niyyah*) [3] file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftnref3 For references to ‘those who incur Allah’s wrath,’ see *4*:93; *5*:60; *7*:71, 152; *8*:16; *16*:106; *20*:81; *42*:16; *48*:6; *58*:14; *60*:13. [4] file:///C:/Users/M.%20Baqir/Desktop/Quran%20Part%201.docx#_ftnref4 For references to ‘those who are astray,’ see *2*:108, 175; *3*:90; *4*:116, 136, 167; *5*:12, 60, 77; *6*:74, 77, 125, 140; *7*:30, 179; *14*:3, 18, 27; *15*:56; *17*:72, 97; *19*:38; *22*:4, 12; *23*:106; *25*:44; *28*:50; * 31*:11; *33*:36, 67; *34*:8; :47; *38*:26; *39*:22; *40*: 34; *41*:52; *42*:18; *45*:23; *46*:5, 32; *60*:1. Should I add double braces on all these places and add the footnotes? On Friday, July 19, 2013 11:33:59 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: Salaamun Alaikum wr, Zekr supports footnotes or parenthetical commentaries. A text which is placed between double braces (e.g. [[commentary part]]) is not show. Instead a toggle number is shown which shows/hides commentary on click. We have currently one Russian translation+commentary in this way: http://zekr.org/resources.html#trans.ru.kuliev-alsaadi Regards, Mohsen On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Alaikum Salam JazakAllah I was wondering, if a translation also includes footnotes and/or tafsir, for instance, Agha Puya and SV Mir Ahmad Ali's, would it show up when selected in zekr/tanzil? On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:21:12 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: S alaamun Alaikum, Ali Quli Qarai's English translation is just addedhttp://tanzil.ca/trans/en.qarai.trans.zip . Regards, Mohsen On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.com wrote: Alaikum Salam Yes, he has granted his permission; I had asked him last year, during the month of Ramadhan, and this is when he had given me the translation files, and I arranged them in the required format. Regards On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:14:54 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: Wa Alaikumassalaam wr, Do you have access to translator? Can you ask for permission to provide this work in Zekr? I can see your 'source: the translator himself' at the bottom of the file. Regards, Mohsen On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.com wrote: Salamun Alaikum I'm wondering if that has been looked into, and if it can be certified, and added to zekr? JazakAllah On Saturday, July 6, 2013 6:45:19 AM UTC+4, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq wrote: Salam Alaikum English Quran Translation by Ali Quli Qarai. Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+uns...@googlegroups.**com. To post to this group, send email to ze...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ **ms**gid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-**99**53-2405b31725e8%**
Re: [zekr] Re: New Quran Translation
Alaikum Salam JazakAllah I was wondering, if a translation also includes footnotes and/or tafsir, for instance, Agha Puya and SV Mir Ahmad Ali's, would it show up when selected in zekr/tanzil? On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:21:12 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: S alaamun Alaikum, Ali Quli Qarai's English translation is just addedhttp://tanzil.ca/trans/en.qarai.trans.zip . Regards, Mohsen On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Alaikum Salam Yes, he has granted his permission; I had asked him last year, during the month of Ramadhan, and this is when he had given me the translation files, and I arranged them in the required format. Regards On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:14:54 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: Wa Alaikumassalaam wr, Do you have access to translator? Can you ask for permission to provide this work in Zekr? I can see your 'source: the translator himself' at the bottom of the file. Regards, Mohsen On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.com wrote: Salamun Alaikum I'm wondering if that has been looked into, and if it can be certified, and added to zekr? JazakAllah On Saturday, July 6, 2013 6:45:19 AM UTC+4, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq wrote: Salam Alaikum English Quran Translation by Ali Quli Qarai. Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+uns...@googlegroups.**com. To post to this group, send email to ze...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msgid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-**9953-2405b31725e8%**40googlegroups.comhttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-9953-2405b31725e8%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+uns...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ze...@googlegroups.com javascript: . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/6ab8ead6-50a8-42d1-a77f-6866f6292683%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to zekr@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/29d243c3-30c4-4cb9-b718-f244150a3227%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [zekr] Re: New Quran Translation
Salaamun Alaikum wr, Zekr supports footnotes or parenthetical commentaries. A text which is placed between double braces (e.g. [[commentary part]]) is not show. Instead a toggle number is shown which shows/hides commentary on click. We have currently one Russian translation+commentary in this way: http://zekr.org/resources.html#trans.ru.kuliev-alsaadi Regards, Mohsen On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baqirsa...@gmail.com wrote: Alaikum Salam JazakAllah I was wondering, if a translation also includes footnotes and/or tafsir, for instance, Agha Puya and SV Mir Ahmad Ali's, would it show up when selected in zekr/tanzil? On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:21:12 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: S alaamun Alaikum, Ali Quli Qarai's English translation is just addedhttp://tanzil.ca/trans/en.qarai.trans.zip . Regards, Mohsen On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.com wrote: Alaikum Salam Yes, he has granted his permission; I had asked him last year, during the month of Ramadhan, and this is when he had given me the translation files, and I arranged them in the required format. Regards On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:14:54 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: Wa Alaikumassalaam wr, Do you have access to translator? Can you ask for permission to provide this work in Zekr? I can see your 'source: the translator himself' at the bottom of the file. Regards, Mohsen On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.com wrote: Salamun Alaikum I'm wondering if that has been looked into, and if it can be certified, and added to zekr? JazakAllah On Saturday, July 6, 2013 6:45:19 AM UTC+4, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq wrote: Salam Alaikum English Quran Translation by Ali Quli Qarai. Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+uns...@googlegroups.**com. To post to this group, send email to ze...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/* *ms**gid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-**99**53-2405b31725e8%** 40googlegroups**.comhttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-9953-2405b31725e8%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+uns...@googlegroups.**com. To post to this group, send email to ze...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msgid/zekr/6ab8ead6-50a8-42d1-**a77f-6866f6292683%**40googlegroups.comhttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/6ab8ead6-50a8-42d1-a77f-6866f6292683%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to zekr@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/29d243c3-30c4-4cb9-b718-f244150a3227%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to zekr@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/CAAv9gYc%2BKAhPBqOhfP1oZc4H3rCTLhDORub4G%2BE29YCPGR2rCQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [zekr] Re: New Quran Translation
Wao, Thanks a lot Manzar On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Mohsen Saboorian mohs...@gmail.com wrote: S alaamun Alaikum, Ali Quli Qarai's English translation is just addedhttp://tanzil.ca/trans/en.qarai.trans.zip . Regards, Mohsen On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baqirsa...@gmail.com wrote: Alaikum Salam Yes, he has granted his permission; I had asked him last year, during the month of Ramadhan, and this is when he had given me the translation files, and I arranged them in the required format. Regards On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:14:54 AM UTC+4, Mohsen Saboorian wrote: Wa Alaikumassalaam wr, Do you have access to translator? Can you ask for permission to provide this work in Zekr? I can see your 'source: the translator himself' at the bottom of the file. Regards, Mohsen On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq md.baq...@gmail.com wrote: Salamun Alaikum I'm wondering if that has been looked into, and if it can be certified, and added to zekr? JazakAllah On Saturday, July 6, 2013 6:45:19 AM UTC+4, Muhammad Baqir Sadiq wrote: Salam Alaikum English Quran Translation by Ali Quli Qarai. Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+uns...@googlegroups.**com. To post to this group, send email to ze...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msgid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-**9953-2405b31725e8%**40googlegroups.comhttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/34bc402c-012a-4abb-9953-2405b31725e8%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to zekr@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/6ab8ead6-50a8-42d1-a77f-6866f6292683%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to zekr@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/CAAv9gYewAV2adX-RTJ%3Dmtxoq5-WDeV30V6bhZTt1smgxWK7rmA%40mail.gmail.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups zekr group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to zekr@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/zekr/CAPCvFj4_Lf%3DjJgUU7AFTg3TqeuUKY%2BPWv6ARbiB78uZugCysfA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
