[Zen] Newbie

2007-01-11 Thread topezdragon_42
Hello every one. I become interested in Zen after reading a book about the eastern ways. it seems to me to have something that western thinking has been missing. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[Zen] Belly Breathing.

2007-01-11 Thread Phillip Rogers
Peace Donald, I have two more questions. In step four of the belly breathing exercise it says that you focus your breathing on your belly chakra which is about two inches behind the belly button. My first question is do you breath the air in focusing the air into that point? In other

Re: [Zen] New

2007-01-11 Thread Phillip Rogers
Peace to you and welcome. Allen James W. ORourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Jim O'Rourke. I am also new to the group. I live in a small town in Washington state and sit with a group affiliated with the Robert Aitken lineage.am looking forward to all that I will

Re: [Zen] Internal Chi vs. External Chi

2007-01-11 Thread Phillip Rogers
Thank you very much donald. You have cleared up some of my confusion, thanks. Peace, Allen donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Allen, I forgot to address another question of your about Chi Development. The traditional martial arts of Chi-Gong requires the Chi input from

RE: [Zen] Newbie

2007-01-11 Thread Bill Smart
Topezdragon_42, Thinking, whether it be Western or Eastern, does not have anything MISSING. Thinking, when not put in proper perspective, ADDS a lot of activity that is unnecessary and misleading. All that is necessary to practice zen is to sit (do zazen - zen meditation). To sit means just