[zfs-discuss] panic on `zfs export` with UNAVAIL disks

2008-06-04 Thread Tobias Hintze
hi list, initial situation: SunOS alusol 5.11 snv_86 i86pc i386 i86pc SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_86 64-bit 3 USB HDDs on 1 USB hub: zpool status: state: ONLINE NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM usbpoolONLINE 0 0 0 mirror

Re: [zfs-discuss] Shrinking a zpool?

2008-06-04 Thread stefano audenino
Hi, I know there is no single-command way to shrink a zpool (say evacuate the data from a disk and then remove the disk from a pool), but is there a logical way? I.e mirrror the pool to a smaller pool and then split the mirror? In this case I'm not talking about disk size (moving from 4 X

Re: [zfs-discuss] new install - when is zfs root offered? (snv_90)

2008-06-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 05:56:44PM -0700, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: How about SPARC - can it do zfs install+root yet, or if not, when? Just got a couple of nice 1TB SAS drives, and I think I'd prefer to have a mirrored pool where zfs owns the entire drives, if possible. (I'd also

Re: [zfs-discuss] new install - when is zfs root offered? (snv_90)

2008-06-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
P.S. the ST31000640SS drives, together with the LSI SAS 3800x controller (in a 64-bit 66MHz slot) gave me, using dd with a block size of either 1024k or 16384k (1MB or 16MB) and a count of 1024, a sustained read rate that worked out to a shade over 119MB/s, even better than the nominal sustained

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread Darryl
Is there a consensus that seagate barracuda drives are worthwhile, stable, etc...? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] panic on `zfs export` with UNAVAIL disks

2008-06-04 Thread Tobias Hintze
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 02:12:10PM +0200, Tobias Hintze wrote: [...] 2) how do i get rid of the metadata errors? scrubbing fixed the metadata errors. th -- thanks, -- Tobias Hintze // threllis GmbH -- Tobias Hintze // threllis GmbH http://threllis.de/impressum/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread Luke Scharf
Darryl wrote: Is there a consensus that seagate barracuda drives are worthwhile, stable, etc...? All drives suck. Use RAID. :-) -Luke ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread Darryl
good thing i asked about the seagates... i always thought they were highly regarded. I know that everyone has their own opinions, but this is still quite informative. I've always been partial to seagate and WD, for not other reason than, thats all i've had :) This message posted from

[zfs-discuss] Can't rm file when No space left on device...

2008-06-04 Thread Brad Diggs
Hello, A customer recently brought to my attention that ZFS can get into a situation where the filesystem is full but no files can be removed. The workaround is to remove a snapshot and then you should have enough free space to remove a file. Here is a sample series of commands to reproduce

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Benjamin Ellison
I dropped logicsupply a note asking if they had any specifics on the backplane used in my case. My guess is that it just isn't compatible with opensolaris -- I have disks in the bays, but they show up empty in the OS. If I connect one of the drives directly to the mobo it shows up fine.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread Keith Bierman
On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 11:52 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: but we got one server in where 4 of the 8 drives failed in the first two months, at which point we called Seagate and they were happy to swap out all 8 drives for us. I suspect a

Re: [zfs-discuss] any 64-bit mini-itx successes

2008-06-04 Thread Benjamin Ellison
Update: The BCME drivers solution from this thread worked, I think: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=195224 At least, it says the broadcom is up -- I just don't have it in a location where I can get an IP and outside access to test it, yet. I had some intermittent video issues,

[zfs-discuss] Util to remove (s)log from remaining vdevs?

2008-06-04 Thread Jeb Campbell
After having to reset my i-ram card, I can no longer import my raidz pool on 2008.05. Also trying to import the pool using the zpool.cache causes a kernel panic on 2008.05 and B89 (I'm waiting to try B90 when released). So I have 2 options: * Wait for a release that can import after log

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Dave Miner wrote: Putting into the zpool command would feel odd to me, but I agree that there may be a useful utility here. There is value to putting this functionality in zpool for the same reason that it was useful to put 'iostat' and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread ddooniejunk
You may all have 'shared human errors', but i dont have that issue whatsoever :) I find it quite interesting the issues that you guys bring up with these drives. All manufactured goods suffer the same pitfalls of production. Would you say that WD and Seagate are the front runners or

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Jeff Bonwick
I agree with that. format(1M) and cfgadm(1M) are, ah, not the most user-friendly tools. It would be really nice to have 'zpool disks' go out and taste all the drives to see which ones are available. We already have most of the code to do it. 'zpool import' already contains the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Dave Miner
Jeff Bonwick wrote: I agree with that. format(1M) and cfgadm(1M) are, ah, not the most user-friendly tools. It would be really nice to have 'zpool disks' go out and taste all the drives to see which ones are available. We already have most of the code to do it. 'zpool import' already

Re: [zfs-discuss] Util to remove (s)log from remaining vdevs?

2008-06-04 Thread Jeb Campbell
This link worked for me: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=190763 Thanks for the info, and that did have some good tips! I think I might try hacking the label on the log device first. I'll post if I get something working. If that works, it might be best to make a bit for

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Jeff Bonwick wrote: I agree with that. format(1M) and cfgadm(1M) are, ah, not the most user-friendly tools. It would be really nice to have 'zpool disks' go out and taste all the drives to see which ones are available. We already have most of the code to do it. 'zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread MC
You may all have 'shared human errors', but i dont have that issue whatsoever :) I find it quite interesting the issues that you guys bring up with these drives. All manufactured goods suffer the same pitfalls of production. Would you say that WD and Seagate are the front

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hardware Check, OS X Compatibility, NEWBIE!!

2008-06-04 Thread ddooniejunk
Very true, didnt mean to derail the topic, sorry. Just trying to learn as i go! Thanks again! On 4-Jun-08, at 3:05 PM, MC wrote: You may all have 'shared human errors', but i dont have that issue whatsoever :) I find it quite interesting the issues that you guys bring up with these

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Luke Scharf
MC wrote: Putting into the zpool command would feel odd to me, but I agree that there may be a useful utility here. There MAY be a useful utility here? I know this isn't your fight Dave, but this tipped me and I have to say something :) Can we agree that the format command lists the

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Volker A. Brandt
I'd like to suggest a name: lsdisk and lspart to list the disks and also the disks/partitions that are available. (Or maybe lsdisk should just list the disks and partitions in an indented list? Listing the partitions is important. Listing the controllers might not hurt anything, either.)

[zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread andrew
With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now possible to install SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS swap onto a ZFS filesystem without worrying about having it deadlock. ZFS now also supports crash dumps! To install SXCE to a ZFS root, simply use the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Henrik Johansson wrote: Anyone knows what the deal with /export/home is? I though /home was the default home directory in Solaris? Nope, /export/home has always been the *physical* location for users' home directories. They're usually automounted under /home, though. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-04 Thread Henrik Johansson
On Jun 5, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Rich Teer wrote: On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Henrik Johansson wrote: Anyone knows what the deal with /export/home is? I though /home was the default home directory in Solaris? Nope, /export/home has always been the *physical* location for users' home directories.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew wrote: With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now possible to install SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS swap onto a ZFS filesystem without worrying about having it

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Luke Scharf
Volker A. Brandt wrote: Hmmm... the current scheme seems to be subject verb object. E.g. disk list That would work fine for me! It would also be easy enough to put on a rosetta stone type reference card. [0] Including lspci and lsusb with Solaris would be a great idea -- Well,

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Luke Scharf
Luke Scharf wrote: 3. None of the grey-haired Solaris gurus that I've talked to have ever been able to explain why. I do realize that older architectures needed some way to record the disk geometry. But why do it that way? -Luke ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread Carson Gaspar
Luke Scharf wrote: 1. Calling s2 a slice makes it a subset of the device, not the whole device. But it's the whole device. 2. The number s2 is arbitrary. If it were s0, then there would at least be the beginning of the list. If it were s3, it would be at the end of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Tim, Start at the zfs boot page, here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/ Review the information and follow the links to the docs. Cindy - Original Message - From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems with USB Storage devices

2008-06-04 Thread Ricardo M. Correia
On Ter, 2008-06-03 at 23:33 +0100, Paulo Soeiro wrote: 6)Remove and attached the usb sticks: zpool status pool: myPool state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing or invalid. There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-04 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:28:58PM -0400, Luke Scharf wrote: 2. The number s2 is arbitrary. If it were s0, then there would at least be the beginning of the list. If it were s3, it would be at the end of a 2-bit list, which could be explained historically. If it were

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Ellis, Mike
The FAQ document ( http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsbootFAQ/ ) has a jumpstart profile example: install_type initial_install pool newpool auto auto auto mirror c0t0d0 c0t1d0 bootenv installbe bename sxce_xx The B90 jumpstart check program (SPARC) flags

Re: [zfs-discuss] new install - when is zfs root offered? (snv_90)

2008-06-04 Thread Boyd Adamson
A Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 05:56:44PM -0700, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: How about SPARC - can it do zfs install+root yet, or if not, when? Just got a couple of nice 1TB SAS drives, and I think I'd prefer to have a mirrored pool where zfs owns the entire

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:17:05PM -0400, Ellis, Mike wrote: The FAQ document ( http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsbootFAQ/ ) has a jumpstart profile example: Speaking of the FAQ and mentioning the need to use slices, how does that affect the ability of Solaris/ZFS to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Nathan Kroenert
format -e is your window to cache settings. As for the auto-enabling, I'm not sure, as IIRC, we do different things based on disk technology. eg: IDE + SATA - Always enabled SCSI - Disabled by default, unless you give ZFS the whole disk. I think. On a couple of my systems, this seems to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 12:14:46PM +1000, Nathan Kroenert wrote: format -e is your window to cache settings. Ah ha! As for the auto-enabling, I'm not sure, as IIRC, we do different things based on disk technology. eg: IDE + SATA - Always enabled SCSI - Disabled by default, unless you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Uwe Dippel
Can someone in the know please provide a recipe to upgrade a nv81 (e.g.) to ZFS-root, if possible? That would be, just listing the commands step by step for the uninitiated; for me. Uwe This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-04 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Did you actually choose to keep / and /var combined? Is there any THat's what I'd do... reason to do that with a ZFS root since both are sharing the same pool and so there is no longer any disk space advantage? If / and /var are not combined

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-04 Thread Erik Trimble
Rich Teer wrote: On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote Did you actually choose to keep / and /var combined? Is there any THat's what I'd do... reason to do that with a ZFS root since both are sharing the same pool and so there is no longer any disk space advantage? If / and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-04 Thread Nathan Kroenert
I'd expect it's the old standard. if /var/tmp is filled, and that's part of /, then bad things happen. there are often other places in /var that are writable by more than root, and always the possibility that something barfs heavily into syslog. Since the advent of reasonably sized disks, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-04 Thread Ellis, Mike
In addition to the standard containing the carnage arguments used to justify splitting /var/tmp, /var/mail, /var/adm (process accounting etc), is there an interesting use-case where would one split out /var for compression reasons (as in, turn on compression for /var so that process accounting,