Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool detach on non-mirrored drive

2008-12-18 Thread Daniel
Is it possible to do a replace on the root filesystem as well? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool detach on non-mirrored drive

2008-12-18 Thread Daniel
Is it possible to do a replace on / as well? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Removing Disks from pools

2008-12-18 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
Hello ZFS gurus and fellow fans. As we all know ZFS does not _yet_ support relayout of pools. I want to know whether there is any hope for this to become available in the near future? From my outside view it sounds like it should be possible to set a flag to stop allocating new blocks from a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Removing Disks from pools

2008-12-18 Thread Tomas Ă–gren
On 18 December, 2008 - Johan Hartzenberg sent me these 2,7K bytes: Hello ZFS gurus and fellow fans. As we all know ZFS does not _yet_ support relayout of pools. I want to know whether there is any hope for this to become available in the near future?

[zfs-discuss] automatic forced zpool import with unmatched hostid

2008-12-18 Thread Benjamin Brumaire
Hi, since hostid is stored in the label, zpool import failed if the hostid dind't match. Under certain circonstances (ldom failover) it means you have to manually force the zpool import while booting. With more than 80 LDOMs on a single host it will be great if we could configure the machine

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot on SAN

2008-12-18 Thread Stanislav Filippov
Hi, All! I've tried to install bootblock with installboot such as with DD too... # zpool status pool: rpool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpoolONLINE 0 0 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS problems which scrub can't find?

2008-12-18 Thread Marcin Szychowski
Do you use any form of compression? I changed compression from none to gzip-9, got some message about changing properties of boot pool (or fs), copied and moved all files under /usr and /etc to enforce compression, rebooted, and - guess what message did I get. -- This message posted from

[zfs-discuss] Accented characters in zfs filesystem names?

2008-12-18 Thread Pedro Lobo
Hi, all. I've just installed OpensSolaris 2008.11 and among the great features (zfs being THE feature) I'm finding some minor annoyances. One of them is that I can't create a zfs filesystem with an accented character in its name (the encoding is utf-8): pjl...@pc8120a:~$ zfs create

Re: [zfs-discuss] Removing Disks from pools

2008-12-18 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:24:26AM +0200, Johan Hartzenberg wrote: Similarly, adding a device into a raid-Z vdev seems easy to do: All future writes include that device in the list of devices from which to allocate blocks. In general, I agree completely. But in practice there are limitations

Re: [zfs-discuss] automatic forced zpool import with unmatched hostid

2008-12-18 Thread Torsten Weigel
Hi, some more details to the question above. We are using ldom in a cluster environment, which means the ldom is relocatable between two execution hosts. The ldom owns one zpool named local and this zpool can be in use only from this domain. This zpool provides some zfs for an application and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool detach on non-mirrored drive

2008-12-18 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Daniel, You can replace the disks in both of the supported root pool configurations: - single disk (non-redundant) root pool - mirrored (redundant) root pool I've tried both recently and I prefer attaching the replacement disk to the single-disk root pool and then detaching the old disk, using

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool detach on non-mirrored drive

2008-12-18 Thread Daniel
Cindy, This is helpful! Thank you very much :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs is a co-dependent parent and won't let children leave home

2008-12-18 Thread Seymour Krebs
1. sorry for the delay in replying. 2. the reason that I was originally using zfs destroy was that beadm destroy failed. 3. Current state of affairs: ~# beadm list BEActive Mountpoint SpacePolicy Created ---- -- --- ---

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs is a co-dependent parent and won't let children leave home

2008-12-18 Thread Seymour Krebs
Ethan, 1. No zones. 2. with BE_PRINT_ERR=true (sorry destroy now works) ~# beadm list BEActive Mountpoint SpacePolicy Created ---- -- --- --- b101b - - 6.14Gstatic 2008-11-14 09:17 b103pre

Re: [zfs-discuss] Accented characters in zfs filesystem names?

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:32:33AM -0800, Pedro Lobo wrote: I've just installed OpensSolaris 2008.11 and among the great features (zfs being THE feature) I'm finding some minor annoyances. One of them is that I can't create a zfs filesystem with an accented character in its name (the encoding

Re: [zfs-discuss] automatic forced zpool import with unmatched hostid

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Elling
Torsten Weigel wrote: Hi, some more details to the question above. We are using ldom in a cluster environment, which means the ldom is relocatable between two execution hosts. The ldom owns one zpool named local and this zpool can be in use only from this domain. This zpool provides some

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:02:18AM -0800, Ross wrote: In fact, thinking about it, could this be more generic than just a USB backup service? Absolutely. The tool shouldn't need to know that the backup disk is accessed via USB, or whatever. The GUI should, however, present devices

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs is a co-dependent parent and won't let children leave home

2008-12-18 Thread Ethan Quach
Seymour Krebs wrote: Ethan, 1. No zones. 2. with BE_PRINT_ERR=true (sorry destroy now works) ~# beadm list BEActive Mountpoint SpacePolicy Created ---- -- --- --- b101b - - 6.14G

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Smith
Absolutely. The tool shouldn't need to know that the backup disk is accessed via USB, or whatever. The GUI should, however, present devices intelligently, not as cXtYdZ! Yup, and that's easily achieved by simply prompting for a user friendly name as devices are attached. Now you could

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:05:44PM +, Ross Smith wrote: Absolutely. The tool shouldn't need to know that the backup disk is accessed via USB, or whatever. The GUI should, however, present devices intelligently, not as cXtYdZ! Yup, and that's easily achieved by simply prompting

[zfs-discuss] zfs boot Solaris 10/08 whole disk or slice

2008-12-18 Thread Shawn joy
Hi All, I see from the zfs Best practices guide http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide ZFS Root Pool Considerations * A root pool must be created with disk slices rather than whole disks. Allocate the entire disk capacity for the root pool to slice 0,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Smith
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:05:44PM +, Ross Smith wrote: Absolutely. The tool shouldn't need to know that the backup disk is accessed via USB, or whatever. The GUI should, however, present devices

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot Solaris 10/08 whole disk or slice

2008-12-18 Thread Ian Collins
Shawn joy wrote: Hi All, I see from the zfs Best practices guide http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide ZFS Root Pool Considerations * A root pool must be created with disk slices rather than whole disks. Allocate the entire disk capacity for the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot Solaris 10/08 whole disk or slice

2008-12-18 Thread Phillip Wagstrom -- Area SSE
Shawn joy wrote: Hi All, I see from the zfs Best practices guide http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide ZFS Root Pool Considerations * A root pool must be created with disk slices rather than whole disks. Allocate the entire disk capacity for the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:55:14PM +, Ross Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote: I was thinking more something like: - find all disk devices and slices that have ZFS pools on them - show users the devices and pool names (and

[zfs-discuss] zpool import

2008-12-18 Thread Robert Buick
' is the pool of 2008.11 and 'rootpool' is the pool of snv_103. then entered #zfs snapshot rootpool/u...@20081218:00:30 #zfs send rootpool/u...@20081218:00:30 /tmp/temp.snapshot zfs receive -F rpool/u01 /tmp/temp.snapshot It all worked as expected and I could still boot from the 2008.11 usb drive

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot Solaris 10/08 whole disk or slice

2008-12-18 Thread Lori Alt
On 12/18/08 12:57, Ian Collins wrote: Shawn joy wrote: Hi All, I see from the zfs Best practices guide http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide ZFS Root Pool Considerations * A root pool must be created with disk slices rather than whole disks.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Elling
Nicolas Williams wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:55:14PM +, Ross Smith wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote: I was thinking more something like: - find all disk devices and slices that have ZFS pools on them - show users

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Smith
Of course, you'll need some settings for this so it's not annoying if people don't want to use it. A simple tick box on that pop up dialog allowing people to say don't ask me again would probably do. I would like something better than that. Don't ask me again sucks when much, much later

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Smith
I was thinking more something like: - find all disk devices and slices that have ZFS pools on them - show users the devices and pool names (and UUIDs and device paths in case of conflicts).. I was thinking that device pool names are too variable, you need to be reading serial numbers

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import

2008-12-18 Thread Robert Buick
#zpool export rpool I swapped the 2 drives around again, so that 2008.11 was in the laptop. Booting up brings up the splash screen; it starts as though it means to boot up followed by dark screen then back to the splash screen. Starting in text mode brings up the first few lines and then back

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:57:54PM -0800, Richard Elling wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: Device names are, but there's no harm in showing them if there's something else that's less variable. Pool names are not very variable at all. I was thinking of something a little different. Don't

[zfs-discuss] Replicating many home directories between hosts

2008-12-18 Thread Ian Collins
Is anyone out there replicating a thousand or more ZFS filesystems between hosts using zfs send/receive? I have been attempting to do this, but I keep producing toxic streams that panic the receiving host. So far, about 1 in 1500 (2 out of about 3000) incremental steams appear toxic. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot Solaris 10/08 whole disk or slice

2008-12-18 Thread Shawn joy
If one chooses to do this what happens if you have a disk failure. From the ZFS Best practices guide. The recovery process of replacing a failed disk is more complex when disks contain both ZFS and UFS file systems on slices. Shawn -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] ZFS boot and data on same disk - is this supported?

2008-12-18 Thread Shawn Joy
I have read the ZFS best practice guide located at http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide However I have questions whether we support using slices for data on the same disk as we use for ZFS boot. What issues does this create if we have a disk failure in a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot and data on same disk - is this supported?

2008-12-18 Thread Ian Collins
On Fri 19/12/08 14:52 , Shawn Joy shawn@sun.com sent: I have read the ZFS best practice guide located at http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide However I have questions whether we support using slices for data on the same disk as we use for ZFS boot.

[zfs-discuss] Fwd: Replicating many home directories between hosts

2008-12-18 Thread Scott Williamson
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: Is anyone out there replicating a thousand or more ZFS filesystems between hosts using zfs send/receive? I did this with about 2000 data sets on 2x x4500s with Solaris 10U5 that was patched. Most directories had just a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Replicating many home directories between hosts

2008-12-18 Thread Ross
What version of Solaris and ZFS are you running there? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Replicating many home directories between hosts

2008-12-18 Thread Ian Collins
Ross wrote: What version of Solaris and ZFS are you running there? Solaris 10 update 6 and update 5. Al the filesystems are version 1. -- Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs mirror as a simple backup mechanism for time-slider.

2008-12-18 Thread Ross
Well, I really like the idea of an automatic service to manage send/receives to backup devices, so if you guys don't mind, I'm going to share some other ideas for features I think would be useful. One of the first is that you need some kind of capacity management and snapshot deletion.