[zfs-discuss] Expert hint for replacing 3.5 SATA drive in X4500 with SSD for ZIL

2009-02-02 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi all, We would like to replace one of our 3.5 inch SATA drives of our Thumpers with a SSD device (and put the ZIL on this device). We are currently looking into this with in a bit more detail and would like to ask for input if people already have experience with single vs. multi cell SSDs,

Re: [zfs-discuss] j4200 drive carriers

2009-02-02 Thread Casper . Dik
The drives that Sun sells will come with the correct bracket. Ergo, there is no reason to sell the bracket as a separate item unless the customer wishes to place non-Sun disks in them. That represents a service liability for Sun, so they are not inclined to do so. It is really basic business.

Re: [zfs-discuss] j4200 drive carriers

2009-02-02 Thread Bryan Allen
+-- | On 2009-02-02 09:46:49, casper@sun.com wrote: | | And think of all the money it costs to stock and distribute that | separate part. (And our infrastructure is still expensive; too expensive | for a $5 part)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok thanks for your help guys! :o) One last question, how do I know that the spare sectors are finishing? SMARTS are not available for Solaris, right? Is there any warnings that plop up in ZFS? Will scrubbing reveal that there are errors? How will I know? -- This message posted from

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Feb 2 at 5:48, Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok thanks for your help guys! :o) One last question, how do I know that the spare sectors are finishing? SMARTS are not available for Solaris, right? Is there any warnings that plop up in ZFS? Will scrubbing reveal that there are errors? How will

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs and permissions

2009-02-02 Thread Matthew Arguin
Actually, the issue seems to be more than what I described below. I cannot seemingly issue any zfs or zpool commands short of just zpool status -x , giving a 'healthy' status. If I do zpool status , I get the following: r...@ec1-nas1# zpool status pool: nasPool state: ONLINE scrub: none

[zfs-discuss] ZFS core contributor nominations

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
The time has come to review the current Contributor and Core contributor grants for ZFS. Since all of the ZFS core contributors grants are set to expire on 02-24-2009 we need to renew the members that are still contributing at core contributor levels. We should also add some new members to

[zfs-discuss] ? Oracle parameters for ZFS : disk_asynch_io filesystemio_options

2009-02-02 Thread Michel KINTZ
Could someone help me answer the following question : What is the recommanded value for these 2 Oracle parameters when working with ZFS ? disk_asynch_io = true filesystemio_options = setall or disk_asynch_io = false filesystemio_options = none Thanks in advance. MiK.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Richard Elling
Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok. Just to confirm: A modern disk has already some spare capacity which is not normally utilized by ZFS, UFS, etc. If the spare capacity is finished, then the disc should be replaced. Also, if ZFS decides that a block is bad, it can leave it unused. For example, if

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-02-02 Thread Miles Nordin
fm == Fredrich Maney fredrichma...@gmail.com writes: fm Oddly enough, that seems to be the path was taken by fm Sun quite some time ago with /usr/bin. Those tools are the fm standard, default tools on Sun systems for a reason: they are fm the ones that are maintained and updated

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS extended ACL

2009-02-02 Thread Casper . Dik
For example, ls recently got -% option. This seems to work for /usr/bin/ls, /usr/xpg4/bin/ls, and /usr/xpg6/bin/ls. so, that's good! albeit a little surprising. There's only one source file. So if you add an option you'll add it to all of them. But if /usr/xpg6/bin/ls came first in PATH,

Re: [zfs-discuss] write cache and cache flush

2009-02-02 Thread Miles Nordin
gm == Greg Mason gma...@msu.edu writes: g == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I know disabling the ZIL is an Extremely Bad Idea, but maybe you don't care about trashed thunderbird databases. You just don't want to lose the whole pool to ``status: The pool metadata is corrupted

Re: [zfs-discuss] 'zfs recv' is very slow

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Milkowski
It definitely does. I made some tests today comparing b101 with b105 while doing 'zfs send -R -I A B /dev/null' with several dozen snapshots between A and B. Well, b105 is almost 5x faster in my case - that's pretty good. -- Robert Milkowski http://milek.blogspot.com -- This message posted

Re: [zfs-discuss] Two-level ZFS

2009-02-02 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca wrote: On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:44:14PM -0500, Jim Dunham wrote: If there are two (or more) instances of ZFS in the end-to-end data path, each instance is responsible for its own redundancy and error recovery. There is no

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Greg Palmer
Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok. Just to confirm: A modern disk has already some spare capacity which is not normally utilized by ZFS, UFS, etc. If the spare capacity is finished, then the disc should be replaced. Yup, that is the case. ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Richard, Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:39:34 PM, you wrote: RE Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok. Just to confirm: A modern disk has already some spare capacity which is not normally utilized by ZFS, UFS, etc. If the spare capacity is finished, then the disc should be replaced. RE Also, if

Re: [zfs-discuss] write cache and cache flush

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Miles, Monday, February 2, 2009, 7:20:49 PM, you wrote: gm == Greg Mason gma...@msu.edu writes: g == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: MN gm I know disabling the ZIL is an Extremely Bad Idea, MN but maybe you don't care about trashed thunderbird databases. You MN just don't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with snapshot

2009-02-02 Thread Abishek
Snapshots are not on a per-pool basis but a per-file-system basis. Thus, when you took a snapshot of testpol, you didn't actually snapshot the pool; rather, you took a snapshot of the top level file system (which has an implicit name matching that of the pool). Thus, you haven't actually

[zfs-discuss] issue with sharesmb and sharenfs properties enabled on the same pool

2009-02-02 Thread Alastair Neil
My system is OS 8.11, updated to dev build 105. I have two pools constructed from iscsi targets with around 5600 file-systems in each. I was able to enable NFS sharing and CIFS/SMB sharing on both pools, however, after a reboot the SMB shares comes up but the NFS server service does not and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Feb 2 at 5:05, Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok. Just to confirm: A modern disk has already some spare capacity which is not normally utilized by ZFS, UFS, etc. If the spare capacity is finished, then the disc should be replaced. Actually, the device has spare sectors beyond the reported LBA

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad sectors arises - discs differ in size - trouble?

2009-02-02 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok. Just to confirm: A modern disk has already some spare capacity which is not normally utilized by ZFS, UFS, etc. If the spare capacity is finished, then the disc should be replaced. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] need to add space to zfs pool that's part of SNDR replication

2009-02-02 Thread BJ Quinn
Then what if I ever need to export the pool on the primary server and then import it on the replicated server. Will ZFS know which drives should be part of the stripe even though the device names across servers may not be the same? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] need to add space to zfs pool that's part of SNDR replication

2009-02-02 Thread Jim Dunham
BJ Quinn wrote: Then what if I ever need to export the pool on the primary server and then import it on the replicated server. Will ZFS know which drives should be part of the stripe even though the device names across servers may not be the same? Yes, zpool import will figure it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Expert hint for replacing 3.5 SATA drive in X4500 with SSD for ZIL

2009-02-02 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Just a brief addendum Something like this (or a fully DRAM based device if available in 3.5 inch FF) might also be interesting to test, http://www.platinumhdd.com/ any thoughts? Cheers Carsten ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS core contributor nominations

2009-02-02 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
+1, Thanks for the nomination, Cindy Mark Shellenbaum wrote: The time has come to review the current Contributor and Core contributor grants for ZFS. Since all of the ZFS core contributors grants are set to expire on 02-24-2009 we need to renew the members that are still contributing at

Re: [zfs-discuss] Two-level ZFS

2009-02-02 Thread Gary Mills
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 09:53:15PM +0700, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca wrote: On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:44:14PM -0500, Jim Dunham wrote: If there are two (or more) instances of ZFS in the end-to-end data path, each instance is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with snapshot

2009-02-02 Thread Abishek
If creation of snapshot is allowed on a top level file system, roll back of snapshot created on top level file system must take care not to disturb other file systems that were created under it. -Abishek -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Two-level ZFS

2009-02-02 Thread Gary Mills
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:44:14PM -0500, Jim Dunham wrote: I wrote: I realize that this configuration is not supported. The configuration is supported, but not in the manner mentioned below. If there are two (or more) instances of ZFS in the end-to-end data path, each instance is

[zfs-discuss] Zfs and permissions

2009-02-02 Thread Matthew Arguin
I am having a problem that I am hoping someone might have some insight in to. I am running a x4500 with solaris 5.10 and a zfs filesystem named nasPool. I am also running NetBackup on the box as well...server and client all in one. I have had this up and running for sometime now and recently

Re: [zfs-discuss] Two-level ZFS

2009-02-02 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 08:22:13AM -0600, Gary Mills wrote: On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:44:14PM -0500, Jim Dunham wrote: I wrote: I realize that this configuration is not supported. The configuration is supported, but not in the manner mentioned below. If there are two (or more)

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS core contributor nominations

2009-02-02 Thread Neil Perrin
Looks reasonable +1 Neil. On 02/02/09 08:55, Mark Shellenbaum wrote: The time has come to review the current Contributor and Core contributor grants for ZFS. Since all of the ZFS core contributors grants are set to expire on 02-24-2009 we need to renew the members that are still

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS core contributor nominations

2009-02-02 Thread Neelakanth Nadgir
+1. I would like to nominate roch.bourbonn...@sun.com for his work on improving the performance of ZFS over the last few years. thanks, -neel On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Neil Perrin wrote: Looks reasonable +1 Neil. On 02/02/09 08:55, Mark Shellenbaum wrote: The time has come to review

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS core contributor nominations

2009-02-02 Thread Jeff Bonwick
I would like to nominate roch.bourbonn...@sun.com for his work on improving the performance of ZFS over the last few years. Absolutely. Jeff ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] snapshot identity

2009-02-02 Thread John Zolnowsky x69422/408-404-5064
The Validated Execution project is investigating how to utilize ZFS snapshots as the basis of a validated filesystem. Given that the blocks of the dataset form a Merkel tree of hashes, it seemed straightforward to validate the individual objects in the snapshot and then sign the hash of the root

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root mirror / moving disks to machine with different hostid

2009-02-02 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 30, 2009 2:26:36 PM -0800 Marcus Reid mar...@blazingdot.com wrote: I am investigating using ZFS as a possible replacement for SVM for root disk mirroring. ... Great. However, if I place the disks into a different machine and try to boot, I get: Executing last command: boot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Time taken Backup using ZFS Send Receive

2009-02-02 Thread Dave
Upgrading to b105 seems to improve zfs send/recv quite a bit. See this thread: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=330988 -- Dave Kok Fong Lau wrote: I have been using ZFS send and receive for a while and I noticed that when I try to do a send on a zfs file system of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Time taken Backup using ZFS Send Receive

2009-02-02 Thread Ian Collins
Kok Fong Lau wrote: I have been using ZFS send and receive for a while and I noticed that when I try to do a send on a zfs file system of about 3 gig plus it took only about 3 minutes max. zfs send application/sam...@back /backup/sample.zfs However when I tried to send a file system

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root mirror / moving disks to machine with different hostid

2009-02-02 Thread Marcus Reid
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 08:41:13PM -0800, Frank Cusack wrote: On January 30, 2009 2:26:36 PM -0800 Marcus Reid mar...@blazingdot.com wrote: But what is probably best, 3) when it comes time to make your backup system act as the failed system, first boot it from the network or from cdrom,