Re: [zfs-discuss] Opteron 6100? Does it work with opensolaris?

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon High
You can resume a send if the destination has a snapshot in common with the source. If you don't, there's nothing you can do. It probably taking a while to restart because the sends that were interrupted need to be rolled back. Sent from my Nexus One. On May 21, 2010 9:44 PM, Thomas Burgess

[zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS

2010-05-22 Thread Andreas Iannou
Hallo again, I'm wondering how one would get the serial numbers for a HDD to identify them via OpenSolaris and match them to the ZFS pool. Like I'm trying to workout which HDD c7t3d0 reliably. Can serial numbers be read by OpenSolaris? Cheers, Andre

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opteron 6100? Does it work with opensolaris?

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
yah, unfortunately this is the first send. i'm trying to send 9 TB of data. It really sucks because i was at 6 TB when it lost power On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: You can resume a send if the destination has a snapshot in common with the source. If

Re: [zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS

2010-05-22 Thread Andreas Iannou
I should mention that iostat -En doesn't return any information. Is there a reliable way of reading SMART information natively in OpenSolaris? Cheers, Andre From: andreas_wants_the_w...@hotmail.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 16:49:15 +1000 Subject: [zfs-discuss]

Re: [zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
install smartmontools There is no package for it but it's EASY to install once you do, you can get ouput like this: pfexec /usr/local/sbin/smartctl -d sat,12 -a /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0 smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i386-pc-solaris2.11] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen,

Re: [zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS

2010-05-22 Thread Andreas Iannou
Thanks Thomas, I thought there'd already be a package in the repo for it. Cheers, Andre Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 03:17:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS From: wonsl...@gmail.com To: andreas_wants_the_w...@hotmail.com CC: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org install

Re: [zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
i don't think there is but it's dirt simple to install. I followed the instructions here: http://cafenate.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/setting-up-smartmontools-on-opensolaris/ On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Andreas Iannou andreas_wants_the_w...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Thomas, I thought

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opteron 6100? Does it work with opensolaris?

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Thomas Burgess wonsl...@gmail.com wrote: yah, it seems that rsync is faster for what i need anywaysat least right now... If you don't have snapshots you want to keep in the new copy, then probably... -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com

Re: [zfs-discuss] HDD Serial numbers for ZFS

2010-05-22 Thread James C. McPherson
On 22/05/10 05:09 PM, Andreas Iannou wrote: I should mention that iostat -En doesn't return any information. Is there a reliable way of reading SMART information natively in OpenSolaris? Cheers, Andre From:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opteron 6100? Does it work with opensolaris?

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
i only care about the most recent snapshot, as this is a growing video collection. i do have snapshots, but i only keep them for when/if i accidently delete something, or rename something wrong. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at

Re: [zfs-discuss] New SSD options

2010-05-22 Thread Ragnar Sundblad
On 22 maj 2010, at 07.40, Don wrote: The SATA power connector supplies 3.3, 5 and 12v. A complete solution will have all three. Most drives use just the 5v, so you can probably ignore 3.3v and 12v. I'm not interested in building something that's going to work for every possible drive

Re: [zfs-discuss] New SSD options

2010-05-22 Thread taemun
Basic electronics, go! The linked capacitor from Elna ( http://www.elna.co.jp/en/capacitor/double_layer/catalog/pdf/dk_e.pdf) has an internal resistance of 30 ohms. Intel rate their 32GB X25-E at 2.4W active (we aren't interested in idle power usage, if its idle, we don't need the capacitor in

Re: [zfs-discuss] send/recv over ssh

2010-05-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Brent Jones Problem with mbuffer, if you do scripted send/receives, you'd have to pre-start an Mbuffer session on the receiving end somehow. SSH is always running on the receiving end, so no

Re: [zfs-discuss] Interesting experience with Nexenta - anyone seen it?

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 May 2010, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: To be comfortable (I don't ask for know for a certainty; I'm not sure that exists outside of faith), I want a claim by the manufacturer and multiple outside tests in significant journals -- which could be the blog of somebody I trusted, as well as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Interesting experience with Nexenta - anyone seen it?

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Brandon High wrote: My understanding is that the controller contains enough cache to buffer enough data to write a complete erase block size, eliminating the need to read / erase / write that a partial block write entails. It's reported to do a copy-on-write, so it doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Interesting experience with Nexenta - anyone seen it?

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Don wrote: You know- it would probably be sufficient to provide the SSD with _just_ a big capacitor bank. If the host lost power it would stop writing and if the SSD still had power it would probably use the idle time to flush it's buffers. Then there would be world

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS no longer working with FC devices.

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Demian Phillips wrote: For years I have been running a zpool using a Fibre Channel array with no problems. I would scrub every so often and dump huge amounts of data (tens or hundreds of GB) around and it never had a problem outside of one confirmed (by the array) disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] New SSD options

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Don wrote: You could literally split a sata cable and add in some capacitors for just the cost of the caps themselves. The issue there is whether the caps would present too large a current drain on initial charge up- If they do then you need to add in charge controllers

[zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
I am new to OSOL/ZFS but have just finished building my first system. I detailed the system setup here: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=128986tstart=15 I ended up having to add an additional controller card as two ports on the motherboard did not work as standard Sata port.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread taemun
iostat -xen 1 will provide the same device names as the rest of the system (as well as show error columns). zpool status will show you which drive is in which pool. As for the controllers, cfgadm -al groups them nicely. t On 23 May 2010 03:50, Brian broco...@vt.edu wrote: I am new to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
Following up with some more information here: This is the output of iostat -xen 30 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 296.82.9 36640.27.5 7.8 2.0 26.1

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 22 May 2010, Brian wrote: The -xen helped me determine that it was disks c7d0 and c7d1 that were slower. You may be right, but is not totally clear since you really need to apply a workload which is assured to consistently load the disks. I don't think that 'scrub' is necessarily

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 296.82.9 36640.27.5 7.8 2.0 26.16.6 99 99 0 0 0 0 c7d0 296.72.5 36618.17.5 7.8 2.0 26.1

Re: [zfs-discuss] New SSD options

2010-05-22 Thread Haudy Kazemi
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2010, Don wrote: You could literally split a sata cable and add in some capacitors for just the cost of the caps themselves. The issue there is whether the caps would present too large a current drain on initial charge up- If they do then you need to add

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Brian broco...@vt.edu wrote: If I look at c7d0, I get a message about no Alt Slice found and I don't have access to the cache settings.  Not sure if this is part of my problem or not: That can happen if the controller is not using AHCI. It'll effect your

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
Is there a way within opensolaris to detect if AHCI is being used by various controllers? I suspect you may be accurate an AHCI is not turned on. The bios for this particular motherboard is fairly confusing on the AHCI settings. The only setting I have is actually in the raid section, and it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
If you install Opensolaris with the AHCI settings off, then switch them on, it will fail to boot I had to reinstall with the settings correct. the best way to tell if ahci is working is to use cfgadm if you see your drives there, ahci is on if not, then you may need to reinstall with it on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
I am not sure I fully understand the question... It is setup as raidz2 - is that what you wanted to know? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
Thanks - I can give reinstalling a shot. Is there anything else I should do first? Should I export my tank pool? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
just to make sure i understand what is going on here, you have a rpool which is having performance issues, and you discovered ahci was disabled? you enabled it, and now it won't boot. correct? This happened to me and the solution was to export my storage pool and reinstall my rpool with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/23/10 08:52 AM, Thomas Burgess wrote: If you install Opensolaris with the AHCI settings off, then switch them on, it will fail to boot I had to reinstall with the settings correct. Well you probably didn't have to. Booting form the live CD and importing the pool would have put things

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/23/10 08:43 AM, Brian wrote: Is there a way within opensolaris to detect if AHCI is being used by various controllers? I suspect you may be accurate an AHCI is not turned on. The bios for this particular motherboard is fairly confusing on the AHCI settings. The only setting I have is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
This didn't work for me. I had the exact same issue a few days ago. My motherboard had the following: Native IDE AHCI RAID Legacy IDE so naturally i chose AHCI, but it ALSO had a mode called IDE/SATA combined mode I thought i needed this to use both the ide and ant sata ports, turns out it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
this old thread has info on how to switch from ide-sata mode http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=448758#448758 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 05/23/10 08:43 AM, Brian wrote: Is there a way within opensolaris to detect if AHCI is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
Sometimes when it hangs on boot hitting space bar or any key won't bring it back to the command line. That is why I was wondering if there was a way to not show the splashscreen at all, and rather show what it was trying to load when it hangs. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Brian
Ok. What worked for me was booting with the live CD and doing: pfexec zpool import -f rpool reboot After that I was able to boot with AHCI enabled. The performance issues I was seeing are now also gone. I am getting around 100 to 110 MB/s during a scrub. Scrubs are completing in 20 minutes

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
GREAT, glad it worked for you! On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Brian broco...@vt.edu wrote: Ok. What worked for me was booting with the live CD and doing: pfexec zpool import -f rpool reboot After that I was able to boot with AHCI enabled. The performance issues I was seeing are now

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/23/10 11:31 AM, Brian wrote: Sometimes when it hangs on boot hitting space bar or any key won't bring it back to the command line. That is why I was wondering if there was a way to not show the splashscreen at all, and rather show what it was trying to load when it hangs. From my

[zfs-discuss] snapshots send/recv

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm confusedI have a filesystem on server 1 called tank/nas/dump I made a snapshot called first zfs snapshot tank/nas/d...@first then i did a zfs send/recv like: zfs send tank/nas/d...@first | ssh wonsl...@192.168.1.xx /bin/pfexec /usr/sbin/zfs recv tank/nas/dump this worked fine, next

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapshots send/recv

2010-05-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/23/10 01:18 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: this worked fine, next today, i wanted to send what has changed i did zfs snapshot tank/nas/d...@second now, heres where i'm confusedfrom reading the man page i thought this command would work: pfexec zfs send -i tank/nas/d...@first

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapshots send/recv

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 05/23/10 01:18 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: this worked fine, next today, i wanted to send what has changed i did zfs snapshot tank/nas/d...@second now, heres where i'm confusedfrom reading the man page i

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hanging - SOLVED

2010-05-22 Thread Eduardo Bragatto
Hi, I have fixed this problem a couple weeks ago, but haven't found the time to report it until now. Cindy Swearingen was very kind in contacting me to resolve this issue, I would like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to her. We have not found the root cause of the error.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS performance.

2010-05-22 Thread Haudy Kazemi
Brian wrote: Sometimes when it hangs on boot hitting space bar or any key won't bring it back to the command line. That is why I was wondering if there was a way to not show the splashscreen at all, and rather show what it was trying to load when it hangs. Look at these threads:

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapshots send/recv

2010-05-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Burgess but i get an error: cannot receive incremental stream: destination tank/nas/dump has been modified since most recent snapshot Whenever you send a snap, and you intend to

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapshots send/recv

2010-05-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/23/10 03:56 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: let me ask a question though. Lets say i have a filesystem tank/something i make the snapshot tank/someth...@one i send/recv it then i do something (add a file...remove something, whatever) on the send side, then i do a send/recv and force it of

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapshots send/recv

2010-05-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
ok, so forcing just basically makes it drop whatever changes were made Thats what i was wondering...this is what i expected On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 05/23/10 03:56 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: let me ask a question though. Lets say i have a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opteron 6100? Does it work with opensolaris?

2010-05-22 Thread Richard Elling
On May 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Brandon High wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Thomas Burgess wonsl...@gmail.com wrote: shouldn't the newer server have LESS load? Please forgive my ubernoobness. Depends on what it's doing! Load average is really how many process are waiting to run, so