Re: [zfs-discuss] Basic ZFS Questions + Initial Setup Recommendation

2012-03-22 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-03-21 22:53, Richard Elling wrote: ... This is why a single vdev's random-read performance is equivalent to the random-read performance of a single drive. It is not as bad as that. The actual worst case number for a HDD with zfs_vdev_max_pending of one is: average IOPS * ((D+P) / D)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Basic ZFS Questions + Initial Setup Recommendation

2012-03-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus Three are two different cases here... resilver to reconstruct data from a failed drive and a scrub to pro-actively find bad sectors. The best case situation for the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Basic ZFS Questions + Initial Setup Recommendation

2012-03-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of maillist reader I read though that ZFS does not have a defragmentation tool, is this still the case? True. It would seem with such a performance difference between sequential reads and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Basic ZFS Questions + Initial Setup Recommendation

2012-03-22 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:03 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: 2012-03-21 22:53, Richard Elling wrote: ... This is why a single vdev's random-read performance is equivalent to the random-read performance of a single drive. It is not as bad as that. The actual worst case number for a HDD with

Re: [zfs-discuss] Basic ZFS Questions + Initial Setup Recommendation

2012-03-22 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-03-22 20:52, Richard Elling wrote: Yes, but it is a rare case for 512b sectors. It could be more common for 4KB sector disks when ashift=12. ... Were there any research or tests regarding storage of many small files (1-sector sized or close to that) on different vdev layouts? It is not

[zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-22 Thread The Honorable Senator and Mrs . John Blutarsky
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm thinking about spending around 1,250 USD for a tower format (desk side) server with RAM but without disks. I'd like to have 16G ECC RAM as a minimum and ideally 2 or 3 times that amount and I'd like for the case to have room for at least 6 drives, more would be better

Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, The Honorable Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky wrote: This will be a do-everything machine. I will use it for development, hosting various apps in zones (web, file server, mail server etc.) and running other systems (like a Solaris 11 test system) in VirtualBox. Ultimately I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-22 Thread Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao) Ph.D
well use component of x4170m2 as example you will be ok intel cpu lsi sas controller non raid sas 72rpm hdd my 2c Sent from my iPad On Mar 22, 2012, at 14:41, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, The Honorable Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky wrote: This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Basic ZFS Questions + Initial Setup Recommendation

2012-03-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Jim Klimov wrote: I think that a certain Bob F. would disagree, especially when larger native sectors and ashist=12 come into play. Namely, one scenario where this is important is automated storage of thumbnails for websites, or some similar small objects in vast amounts.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-22 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Thu, Mar 22 at 18:30, The Honorable Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm thinking about spending around 1,250 USD for a tower format (desk side) server with RAM but without disks. I'd like to have 16G ECC RAM as a minimum and ideally 2 or 3 times that amount and