Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
] Sent: Thu 12/23/2010 1:32 AM To: Garrett D'Amore Cc: Erik Trimble; Jerry Kemp; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations On 22/12/2010 20:27, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That said, some operations -- and cryptographic ones in particular

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-23 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 22/12/2010 20:27, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That said, some operations -- and cryptographic ones in particular -- may use floating point registers and operations because for some architectures (sun4u rings a bell) this can make certain expensive Well remembered! There are sun4u optimisations

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-23 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat darren.mof...@oracle.com wrote: On 22/12/2010 20:27, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That said, some operations -- and cryptographic ones in particular -- may use floating point registers and operations because for some architectures (sun4u rings a bell) this can make certain

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-23 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 09:32:13AM +, Darren J Moffat wrote: On 22/12/2010 20:27, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That said, some operations -- and cryptographic ones in particular -- may use floating point registers and operations because for some architectures (sun4u rings a bell) this can make

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-23 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 23/12/2010 15:18, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Thanks for the clarification. I guess I need to go back and figure out how ZFS crypto keying is performed. I guess most likely the key is generated from some sort of one-way hash from a passphrase? See

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-23 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 23/12/2010 17:09, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Darren J Moffatdarren.mof...@oracle.com wrote: On 22/12/2010 20:27, Garrett D'Amore wrote: That said, some operations -- and cryptographic ones in particular -- may use floating point registers and operations because for some

[zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Jerry Kemp
I have a coworker, who's primary expertise is in another flavor of Unix. This coworker lists floating point operations as one of ZFS detriments. I's not really sure what he means specifically, or where he got this reference from. In an effort to refute what I believe is an error or

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 22 December, 2010 - Jerry Kemp sent me these 1,0K bytes: I have a coworker, who's primary expertise is in another flavor of Unix. This coworker lists floating point operations as one of ZFS detriments. I's not really sure what he means specifically, or where he got this reference from.

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 12/23/10 08:44 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote: I have a coworker, who's primary expertise is in another flavor of Unix. This coworker lists floating point operations as one of ZFS detriments. I's not really sure what he means specifically, or where he got this reference from. It sounds like your

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Toby Thain
On 22/12/10 2:44 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: I have a coworker, who's primary expertise is in another flavor of Unix. This coworker lists floating point operations as one of ZFS detriments. Perhaps he can point you also to the equally mythical competing filesystem which offers ZFS' advantages.

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Angelo Rajadurai
If I remember correctly Solaris like most other operating system does not save or restore the floating point registers when context switching from User to Kernel so doing any floating point ops in the kernel would corrupt user floating point state. This means ZFS cannot be doing any floating

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Erik Trimble
On 12/22/2010 11:49 AM, Tomas Ögren wrote: On 22 December, 2010 - Jerry Kemp sent me these 1,0K bytes: I have a coworker, who's primary expertise is in another flavor of Unix. This coworker lists floating point operations as one of ZFS detriments. I's not really sure what he means

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Deano
-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Kemp Sent: 22 December 2010 19:44 To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations I have a coworker, who's primary expertise is in another flavor

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Garrett D'Amore
and probably are not performed at all for x86 cpus. - Garrett -Original Message- From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org on behalf of Erik Trimble Sent: Wed 12/22/2010 12:08 PM To: Jerry Kemp; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2010-Dec-23 04:48:19 +0800, Deano de...@rattie.demon.co.uk wrote: modern CPU are float monsters indeed its likely some things would be faster if converted to use the float ALU _Some_ modern CPUs are good at FP, a lot aren't. The SPARC T-1 was particularly poor as it only had a single FPU.

Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations

2010-12-22 Thread Deano
-Original Message- From: Peter Jeremy [mailto:peter.jer...@alcatel-lucent.com] Sent: 22 December 2010 21:17 To: Deano Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] stupid ZFS question - floating point operations On 2010-Dec-23 04:48:19 +0800, Deano de...@rattie.demon.co.uk