Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R (A

2008-08-13 Thread Shaky
Did you ever figure this out? I have the same hardware: Intel DG33TL motherboard with Intel gigabit nic and ICH9R but with Hitachi 1TB drives. I'm getting 2MB/s write speeds. I've tried the zeroing out trick. No luck. Network is fine. Disks are fine, the write at around 50MB/s when formatted

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R (A

2008-08-13 Thread Shaky
Oh, Jeff's write script gives around 60MB/s IIRC. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R (A

2008-08-13 Thread Shaky
I used BCwipe to zero the drives. How do you: boot Knoppix again and zero out the start and end sectors manually (erasing all GPT data) ?? thanks This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R (A

2008-04-20 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
Hi, First of all, my apologies for some of my posts appearing 2 or even 3 times here, the forum seems to be acting up, and although I received a Java exception for those double postings and they never appeared yesterday, apparently they still made it through eventually. Back on topic: I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Marc Bevand
Pascal Vandeputte pascal_vdp at hotmail.com writes: I'm at a loss, I'm thinking about just settling for the 20MB/s write speeds with a 3-drive raidz and enjoy life... As Richard Elling pointed out, the ~10ms per IO operation implies seeking, or hardware/firmware problems. The mere fact you

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
Thanks, I'll try installing Solaris on a 1GB CF card in an CF-to-IDE adapter, so all disks will then be completely available to ZFS. Then I needn't worry about different size block devices either. I also find it weird that the boot disk is displayed differently from the other two disks if I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
(the lt and gt symbols are filtered by the forum I guess; replaced with minus signs now) # format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c1t0d0 -DEFAULT cyl 45597 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126- /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
Great, superb write speeds with a similar setup, my motivation is growing again ;-) It just occurs to me that I have a spare Silicon Image 3124 SATA card lying around. I was postponing testing of these drives on my desktop because it has an Intel ICH9 SATA controller probably quite similar to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
Thanks a lot for your input, I understand those numbers a lot better now! I'll look deeper into hardware issues. It's a pity that I can't get older BIOS versions flashed. But I've got some other hardware lying around. Someone suggested lowering the 35 iops default, but I can't find any

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Richard Elling
Pascal Vandeputte wrote: Thanks a lot for your input, I understand those numbers a lot better now! I'll look deeper into hardware issues. It's a pity that I can't get older BIOS versions flashed. But I've got some other hardware lying around. Someone suggested lowering the 35 iops default,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Richard Elling
Pascal Vandeputte wrote: I see. I'll only be running a minimal Solaris install with ZFS and samba on this machine, so I wouldn't expect immediate memory issues with 2 gigabytes of RAM. OTOH I read that ZFS is a real memory hog so I'll be careful. Memory usage is completely dependent on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, Richard Elling wrote: Don't worry about swapping on CF. In most cases, you won't be using the swap device for normal operations. You can use the swap -l command to observe the swap device usage. No usage means that you can probably do away

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:28:45AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I don't agree that if swap is used that performance will necessarily suck. If swap is available, Solaris will mount /tmp there, which helps temporary file performance. It is best to look at system

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, A Darren Dunham wrote: I think these paragraphs are referring to two different concepts with swap. Swapfiles or backing store in the first, and virtual memory space in the second. The swap area is mis-named since Solaris never swaps. Some older operating systems would

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread michael schuster
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, A Darren Dunham wrote: I think these paragraphs are referring to two different concepts with swap. Swapfiles or backing store in the first, and virtual memory space in the second. The swap area is mis-named since Solaris never swaps. Some older

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, michael schuster wrote: that's true most of the time ... unless free memory gets *really* low, then Solaris *does* start to swap (ie page out pages by process). IIRC, the threshold for swapping is minfree (measured in pages), and the value that needs to fall below this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-18 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
Thanks for all the replies! Some output from iostat -x 1 while doing a dd of /dev/zero to a file on a raidz of c1t0d0s3, c1t1d0 and c1t2d0 using bs=1048576: extended device statistics devicer/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b sd0 0.0

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-18 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Pascal Vandeputte wrote: Thanks for all the replies! Some output from iostat -x 1 while doing a dd of /dev/zero to a file on a raidz of c1t0d0s3, c1t1d0 and c1t2d0 using bs=1048576: [ data removed ] It's all a little fishy, and kw/s doesn't differ much between the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-18 Thread Pascal Vandeputte
Hi, Thanks for your input. Unfortunately, all 3 drives are identical Seagate 7200.11 drives which I bought separately and they are attached in no particular order. Thanks about the /dev/zero remark, I didn't know that. From what I've seen this afternoon, I'm starting to suspect a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-18 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Pascal Vandeputte wrote: - does Solaris require a swap space on disk No, Solaris does not require a swap space. However you do not have a lot of memory so when there is not enough virtual memory available, programs will fail to allocate memory and quit running. There is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R

2008-04-18 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Pascal Vandeputte wrote: Thanks for all the replies! Some output from iostat -x 1 while doing a dd of /dev/zero to a file on a raidz of c1t0d0s3, c1t1d0 and c1t2d0 using bs=1048576: [

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS raidz write performance:what to expect from SATA drives on ICH9R (AHCI)

2008-04-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Tim wrote: Along those lines, I'd *strongly* suggest running Jeff's script to pin down whether one drive is the culprit: But that script only tests read speed and Pascal's read performance seems fine. Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL