[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-09-22 Thread Sergey
Please read also http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303503. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Re: Veritas NetBackup Support for ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
I am using Netbackup 6.0 MP3 on several ZFS systems just fine. I think that NBU won't back up some exotic ACLs of ZFS, but if you are using ZFS like other filesystems (UFS, etc) then there aren't any issues. Hum. ACLs are not so exotic. This IS a really BIG issue. If you are using

[zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi all, as I am newbie in ZFS, yesterday I played with it a little bit and there are so many good things but I've notes few things I couldn't explain so. 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't decide to give

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi, Dick Davies wrote: On 22/09/06, Alf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) It's not possible anymore within a pool create a file system with a specific sizeIf I have 2 file systems I can't decide to give for example 10g to one and 20g to the other one unless I set a reservation for them. Also I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi Michael, I completely agree with you. I was just wondering about the differences between ZFS and others VM and also if I got the essence of it. Also customers could ask these things and if they can use ZFS filesystems like old fashion mode setting a specific size. What do you thing about

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Michael Schuster
Alf wrote: What do you thing about pulling out a mirror on D1000 and the completely hang of the system? I on purpose left that for others to answer - I don't know HW well enough by far :-) -- Michael Schuster +49 89 46008-2974 / x62974 visit the online support center:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Alf
Hi James, I agree. with you but I think it could take a while cheers Alf James C. McPherson wrote: Alf wrote: Hi Michael, I completely agree with you. I was just wondering about the differences between ZFS and others VM and also if I got the essence of it. Also customers could ask

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On 9/22/06, Dick Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/09/06, Alf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) I mirrored 2 disks within the same D1000 and while I was putting a big tar ball in the FS I tried to physically remove one mirror and You mean pull it out? Does your hardware support hotswap?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie in ZFS

2006-09-22 Thread Darren Dunham
You mean pull it out? Does your hardware support hotswap? As far as I know D1000 support itdoes it? I'm sure the D1000 is fine with the concept. It's probably something in the software stack that is upset. I was told that a similar issue that I once had when testing was likely due to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Aric Gregson
I believe I am experiencing a similar, but more severe issue and I do not know how to resolve it. I used liveupgrade from s10u2 to NV b46 (via solaris express release). My second disk is zfs with the file system fitz. I did a 'zpool export fitz' Reboot with init 6 into new environment, NV

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Haik Aftandilian
I believe I am experiencing a similar, but more severe issue and I do not know how to resolve it. I used liveupgrade from s10u2 to NV b46 (via solaris express release). My second disk is zfs with the file system fitz. I did a 'zpool export fitz' Reboot with init 6 into new

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Aric Gregson
Apologies for any confusion, but I am now able to give more output regarding the zpool fitz. unknown# zfs list -- returns list of zfs file system fitz and related snapshots unknown# zpool status pool: fitz state: ONLINE status: The pool is formatted using an older on-disk format. The pool can

[zfs-discuss] Re: Building large home file server with SATA

2006-09-22 Thread Alexei Rodriguez
Alexei Rodriguez wrote: Unless they break the spec, yes, it should work. PCI Excellent to know! I will verify that the motherboard and the PCI-X cards play well together. Thanks! Alexei This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Building large home file server with SATA

2006-09-22 Thread Frank Cusack
On September 22, 2006 10:26:01 AM -0700 Alexei Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexei Rodriguez wrote: Unless they break the spec, yes, it should work. PCI Excellent to know! I will verify that the motherboard and the PCI-X cards play well together. You might run into a problem with 3.3V

[zfs-discuss] slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread Harley Gorrell
I have set up a small box to work with zfs. (2x 2.4GHz xeons, 4GB memory, 6x scsi disks) I made one drive the boot drive and put the other five into a pool with the zpool create tank command right out of the admin manual. The administration experience has been very nice and most

[zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread johansen
ZFS uses a 128k block size. If you change dd to use a bs=128k, do you observe any performance improvement? | # time dd if=zeros-10g of=/dev/null bs=8k count=102400 | 102400+0 records in | 102400+0 records out | real1m8.763s | user0m0.104s | sys 0m1.759s It's also worth

[zfs-discuss] I'm dancin' in the streets

2006-09-22 Thread Anantha N. Srirama
Wow! I solved a tricky problem this morning thanks to Zones ZFS integration. We have a SAS SPDS database environment running on Sol10 06/06. The SPDS database is unique in that when a table is being updated by one user it is unavailable to the rest of the user community. Our nightly update

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool always thinks it's mounted on another system

2006-09-22 Thread Rich
The history is quite simple: 1) Installed nv_b32 or around there on a zeroed drive. Created this ZFS pool for the first time. 2) Non-live upgraded to nv_b42 when it came out, zpool upgrade on the zpool in question from v2 to v3. 3) Tried to non-live upgrade to nv_b44, upgrade failed every time,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread Harley Gorrell
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, johansen wrote: ZFS uses a 128k block size. If you change dd to use a bs=128k, do you observe any performance improvement? I had tried other sizes with much the same results, but hadnt gone as large as 128K. With bs=128K, it gets worse: | # time dd if=zeros-10g

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: live upgrade incompability

2006-09-22 Thread Haik Aftandilian
Haik, Thank you very much. 'zpool list' yeilds NAMESIZEUSEDAVAILCAPHEALTH ALTROOT z 74.5G 22.9G 51.6G30%ONLINE - How do I confirm that /fitz is not currently a zfs mountpoint? 'zfs mount' yeilds fitz/home/fitz/home

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread johansen-osdev
Harley: I had tried other sizes with much the same results, but hadnt gone as large as 128K. With bs=128K, it gets worse: | # time dd if=zeros-10g of=/dev/null bs=128k count=102400 | 81920+0 records in | 81920+0 records out | | real2m19.023s | user0m0.105s | sys

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: low disk performance

2006-09-22 Thread Gino Ruopolo
Update ... iostat output during zpool scrub extended device statistics device r/sw/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b sd34 2.0 395.20.10.6 0.0 34.8 87.7 0 100 sd3521.0 312.21.22.9 0.0 26.0 78.0 0

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: low disk performance

2006-09-22 Thread Gino Ruopolo
Update ... iostat output during zpool scrub extended device statistics w/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b 34 2.0 395.20.10.6 0.0 34.8 87.7 0 100 3521.0 312.21.22.9 0.0 26.0 78.0 0 79 3620.01.0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread Harley Gorrell
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you just trying to measure ZFS's read performance here? That is what I started looking at. We scrounged around and found a set of 300GB drives to replace the old ones we started with. Comparing these new drives to the old ones: Old 36GB

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: slow reads question...

2006-09-22 Thread johansen-osdev
Harley: Old 36GB drives: | # time mkfile -v 1g zeros-1g | zeros-1g 1073741824 bytes | | real2m31.991s | user0m0.007s | sys 0m0.923s Newer 300GB drives: | # time mkfile -v 1g zeros-1g | zeros-1g 1073741824 bytes | | real0m8.425s | user0m0.010s | sys

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: low disk performance

2006-09-22 Thread Rich
On 9/22/06, Gino Ruopolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update ... iostat output during zpool scrub extended device statistics w/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b 34 2.0 395.20.10.6 0.0 34.8 87.7 0 100 3521.0 312.21.22.9 0.0 26.0 78.0 0