Re: [zfs-discuss] Cause for data corruption?

2008-02-28 Thread Sandro
Thanks for your reassuring post, loomy :) I'm pretty sure the reason for all this is some bad hardware.. But I can't get VTS to work, looks like its not supported for this kind of hardware. And in order to run some other stresstest software or something I would have to connect monitor, keyboard

Re: [zfs-discuss] path-name encodings

2008-02-28 Thread Anton B. Rang
> OK, thanks. I still haven't got any answer to my original question, > though. I.e., is there some way to know what text the > filename is, or do I have to make a more or less wild guess what > encoding the program that created the file used? You have to guess. As far as I know, Apple's HFS (and

Re: [zfs-discuss] nfs over zfs

2008-02-28 Thread abs
thank you so much. that fixed it all. i've been at it for 3 days now. cheers, abs Marion Hakanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > i am a little new to zfs so please excuse my ignorance. i have a poweredge > 2950 running Nevada B82 with an Apple Xraid attached over a fi

Re: [zfs-discuss] nfs over zfs

2008-02-28 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > i am a little new to zfs so please excuse my ignorance. i have a poweredge > 2950 running Nevada B82 with an Apple Xraid attached over a fiber hba. they > are formatted to JBOD with the pool configured as follows: > . . . > i have a filesystem (tpool4/seplog) shared ove

[zfs-discuss] nfs over zfs

2008-02-28 Thread abs
hello all, i am a little new to zfs so please excuse my ignorance. i have a poweredge 2950 running Nevada B82 with an Apple Xraid attached over a fiber hba. they are formatted to JBOD with the pool configured as follows: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Elling
Boyd Adamson wrote: > Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Tim wrote: >> >>> The greatest hammer in the world will be inferior to a drill when >>> driving a screw :) >>> >>> >> The greatest hammer in the world is a rotary hammer, and it >> works quite well for driving scr

Re: [zfs-discuss] path-name encodings

2008-02-28 Thread Bart Smaalders
Marcus Sundman wrote: > Bart Smaalders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'm unable to find more info about this. E.g., what does "reject >>> file names" mean in practice? E.g., if a program tries to create a >>> file using an utf8-incompatible filename, what happens? Does the >>> fopen() fail? Would

Re: [zfs-discuss] Permanently removing vdevs from a pool

2008-02-28 Thread Jack Patteeuw
I found this feature to be incredibly useful when managing a Digital Unix system with AdsFS. Migrating to a larger disk (or larger hardware RAID set) was a simple "add", "remove" and wait for the filesystem to clean up. This was done with multiple users online. Good Stuff ! Keep up the good

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Nathan Kroenert - Server ESG
Hm - Based on this detail from the page: Change lever for switching between "Rotation + Hammering" , "Neutral" and "Hammering only" I'd hope it could still hammer... Though I'd suspect the size of nails it would hammer would be somewhat limited... ;) Nathan. Boyd Adamson wrote: > Richard E

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Boyd Adamson
Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tim wrote: >> >> The greatest hammer in the world will be inferior to a drill when >> driving a screw :) >> > > The greatest hammer in the world is a rotary hammer, and it > works quite well for driving screws or digging through degenerate > granite ;-)

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote: > > The greatest hammer in the world will be inferior to a drill when > driving a screw :) > The greatest hammer in the world is a rotary hammer, and it works quite well for driving screws or digging through degenerate granite ;-) Need a better analogy. Here's what I use (quite often)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Loran
Roch Bourbonnais wrote: > > Le 28 févr. 08 à 21:00, Jonathan Loran a écrit : > >> >> >> Roch Bourbonnais wrote: >>> >>> Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : >>> Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In ot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Le 28 févr. 08 à 21:00, Jonathan Loran a écrit : > > > Roch Bourbonnais wrote: >> >> Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : >> >>> >>> Quick question: >>> >>> If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a >>> boost? >>> In other words, will the data/parity be read r

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Tim
On 2/28/08, Alan Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tim wrote: > > > Don't forget, ZFS is open source, and can be ported to any other > > number of platforms as well. It's also currently supported on FreeBSD > > 7.0, and is basically production ready on that platform. > > > > The open source is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Loran
Roch Bourbonnais wrote: > > Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : > >> >> Quick question: >> >> If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? >> In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the >> disks, or do both mirrored sets of data and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Le 28 févr. 08 à 20:14, Jonathan Loran a écrit : > > Quick question: > > If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a > boost? > In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the > disks, or do both mirrored sets of data and parity get read off of > both

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread ian
Jonathan Loran writes: > > Quick question: > > If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? Yes. I use a stripe of mirrors to get better read and write performance. Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@openso

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Tim
On 2/28/08, Alan Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim wrote: > > > Don't forget, ZFS is open source, and can be ported to any other > > number of platforms as well. It's also currently supported on FreeBSD > > 7.0, and is basically production ready on that platform. > > > > The open source is HU

[zfs-discuss] Does a mirror increase read performance

2008-02-28 Thread Jonathan Loran
Quick question: If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost? In other words, will the data/parity be read round robin between the disks, or do both mirrored sets of data and parity get read off of both disks? The latter case would have a CPU expense, so I would thi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Alan Perry
Tim wrote: > Don't forget, ZFS is open source, and can be ported to any other > number of platforms as well. It's also currently supported on FreeBSD > 7.0, and is basically production ready on that platform. > > The open source is HUGE in my mind, you aren't tied to Solaris. > Granted, that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Darren J Moffat
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Is it possible to create a ZFS pool using a backing file created in > xattr space? Why would you want to do that ? I tried but could get it to work with the CLI. However it may be possible via the (private) libzfs function call interface. da64-x4500b-gmp03# cd /tmp da

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
Is it possible to create a ZFS pool using a backing file created in xattr space? Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Elling
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > Doing the same as an alternate "view" on snapshot space would be a > simple matter of programming within ZFS, though the magic token/suffix > to get you into version/snapshot space would likely not be POSIX > compliant.. > > We already have a POSIX compliant file syst

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Mark Shellenbaum wrote: > Kyle McDonald wrote: >> Bill Sommerfeld wrote: >>> On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: >>> How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any other programs? I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Kyle McDonald wrote: > Bill Sommerfeld wrote: >> On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: >> >>> How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any >>> other programs? >>> >>> I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which >>> version of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cause for data corruption?

2008-02-28 Thread MC
> So I scrubbed the whole pool and it found a lot more corrupted files. My condolences :) General questions and comments about ZFS and data corruption: I thought RAIDZ would correct data errors automatically with the parity data. How wrong am I on that? Perhaps a parity correction was alrea

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Casper . Dik
>I suspected it should be 'possible' to code it into ZFS. > >The reason it's been left to runat instead seems to be POSIX compliance >then? It could still have used "//" pathnames (those have a POSIX reserved special meaning though that somewhat complicates pathname composition). E.g., a pathna

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Kyle McDonald
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: > >> How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any >> other programs? >> >> I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which >> version of 'file' added FOO. >> (I think

Re: [zfs-discuss] path-name encodings

2008-02-28 Thread Marcus Sundman
Bart Smaalders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm unable to find more info about this. E.g., what does "reject > > file names" mean in practice? E.g., if a program tries to create a > > file using an utf8-incompatible filename, what happens? Does the > > fopen() fail? Would this normally be a probl

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Tim
On 2/28/08, Christine Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alan Perry wrote: > > Alan Perry wrote: > > > > > I gave a talk on ZFS at a local user group meeting this evening. > > What I didn't > > > know going in was that the meeting was hosted at a Novell consulting > > shop. I got > > > asked a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 13:43 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: > How was it MVFS could do this without any changes to the shells or any > other programs? > > I ClearCase could 'grep FOO /dir1/dir2/file@@/main/*' to see which > version of 'file' added FOO. > (I think @@ was the special hidden key. It

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:55:45AM -0800, Joe Blount wrote: > * Application aware/driven CDP solves the file sanity challenge by > being explicitly told by the app. But this will have an inherently > limited market because it relies on application support. Basically: > it works, but requires coor

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:05:50AM -0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Again, there's nothing that I "wanted". I was only thinking. And I am > a server person. Now, if I switch from the > /export/home/userfoo/Documents (for Richard, who might be happier with > UZFS-CDP than with the shots of TimeMachine), t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Uwe Dippel wrote: > > 1. The application (NFS - sftp) does not know about the state of writing? Sometimes applications know about the state of writing and sometimes they do not. Sometimes they don't even know they are writing. > 2. Obviously nobody sees anything in having a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Blount
> A good handful of people approached me later, being > curious and fascinated by the idea to replace the > backup scheduler with an event-driven creation of the > versions. Uwe, I'm still struggling to decide if ADM is what you're looking for. When you make comments like the one quoted above,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Christine Tran
Alan Perry wrote: > Alan Perry wrote: > > > I gave a talk on ZFS at a local user group meeting this evening. > What I didn't > > know going in was that the meeting was hosted at a Novell consulting > shop. I got > > asked a lot of "what does ZFS do that NSS doesn't do" questions that > I c

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Novell NSS

2008-02-28 Thread Alan Perry
Alan Perry wrote: > I gave a talk on ZFS at a local user group meeting this evening. What I didn't > know going in was that the meeting was hosted at a Novell consulting shop. I got > asked a lot of "what does ZFS do that NSS doesn't do" questions that I could not > answer (mostly because

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS be event-driven or not?

2008-02-28 Thread Uwe Dippel
[i]Consider this to be your life's mission.[/i] Bob, I can do without this. Richard, [i]Actually I use several browsers every day. Each browser has a cache located somewhere in my home directory and the cache is managed so that it won't grow very large. With CDP, I would fill my disk in a week o

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool core dumped

2008-02-28 Thread Piotr Tarnowski
S10U4 SPARC on V890 + patches, StorageTek 6140 + CSM200 Generic_127111-09 The same issue, still don't patched ? If I set NOINUSE_CHECK=1 pool is created succesfully Regards -- Piotr (DrFugazi) Tarnowski This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance with Sun StorageTek 2540

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Van Der Zwan
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Cyril Plisko wrote: > >> > >> > http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/zfs-discuss/2540-zfs-performance.pdf > > > > Nov 26, 2008 ??? May I borrow your time machine ? ;-) > > Are there any stock prices you would like to know about? Perhaps you > > are inter

Re: [zfs-discuss] utf8only-property

2008-02-28 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> So, I set utf8only=on and try to create a file with a > filename that is > a byte array that can't be decoded to text using > UTF-8. What's supposed > to happen? Should fopen(), or whatever syscall > 'touch' uses, fail? > Should the syscall somehow escape utf8-incompatible > bytes, or maybe > rep