If I run
# zdb -l /dev/dsk/c#t#d#
the result is failed to unpack label for any disk attached to controllers
running on ahci or arcmsr controllers.
Cheers,
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Goog morning Cindy,
Hi,
Testing how ZFS reacts to a failed disk can be
difficult to anticipate
because some systems don't react well when you remove
a disk.
I am in the process of finding that out for my systems. That's why I am doing
these tests.
On an
x4500, for example, you have to
I beileve to have seen the same issue. Mine was documented as:
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6843555
Areca did issue a fixed firmware, but i can't say whether that indeed was the
end of it, since we didn't do a controlled disk mixing experiment since then.
I did
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:58 PM, matthew patton patto...@yahoo.com wrote:
what with the home NAS conversations, what's the trick to buy a J4500 without
any drives? SUN like every other enterprise storage vendor thinks it's ok
to rape their customers and I for one, am not interested in paying
A dumb question:
I see 24 drives in an external chassi. I presume that chassis does only hold
drives, it does not hold a motherboard.
How do you connect all drives to your OpenSolaris server? Do you place them
next to each other, and then you have three 8 SATA ports in your OpenSolaris
Ok, I see that the chassi contains a mother board. So never mind that question.
Another q:
Is it possible to have large chassi with lots of drives, and the opensolaris in
another chassi, how do you connect them both?
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My timeout issue is definitely the WD10EARS disks.
WD has chosen to cripple their consumer grade disks
when used in quantities greater than one.
I'll now need to evaluate alternative supplers of low
cost disks for low end high volume storage.
Mark.
typo ST32000542AS not NS
This was
On Tue, February 2, 2010 02:24, matthew patton wrote:
true. but I buy a Ferrari for the engine and bodywork and chassis
engineering. It is totally criminal what Sun/EMC/Dell/Netapp do charging
customers 10x the open-market rate for standard drives. A RE3/4 or NS
drive is the same damn thing
true. but I buy a Ferrari for the engine and bodywork and chassis
engineering. It is totally criminal what Sun/EMC/Dell/Netapp do charging
its interesting to read this with another thread containing:
timeout issue is definitely the WD10EARS disks.
replaced 24 of them with ST32000542AS (f/w
Hi Simon,
I am running 5 WD20EADS in a raidz-1+spare on ahci controller without any
problems I could relate to TLER or head parking.
Cheers,
Tonmaus
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Even if the pool is created with whole disks, you'll need to
use the s* identifier as I provided in the earlier reply:
# zdb -l /dev/dsk/cvtxdysz
Cindy
On 02/02/10 01:07, Tonmaus wrote:
If I run
# zdb -l /dev/dsk/c#t#d#
the result is failed to unpack label for any disk attached to
On Tue, February 2, 2010 01:26, James C. McPherson wrote:
The engineering ratings are different to what you can buy from
your local corner PC store, and the firmware is different. The
qualification is done with the assumption that the disks will be
spinning every single second for a number
Thanks. That fixed it.
Tonmaus
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Hi James,
am I right to understand that in a nutshell the problem is that if page 80/83
information is present but corrupt/inaccurate/forged (name it as you want), zfs
will not get to down to the GUID?
regards,
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Hi,
I am trying to find a way to grow the filesystems in a thumper.
The idea is to take single disks offline and to replace them by bigger
ones.
For this reason, I did run the following test:
mkfile 100m f1
mkfile 100m f2
mkfile 100m f3
mkfile 100m f4
mkfile 100m f5
mkfile 200m F1
mkfile
Hi,
It's a few day now that I try to use a 9650SE 3ware controller to work on
opensolaris and I found the following problem :
the tw driver seems work, I can see my controller whith the tw_cli of 3ware. I
can see that 2 drives are created with the controller, but when I try to use
pfexec
On Tue, February 2, 2010 01:27, Tim Cook wrote:
Except you think the original engineering is just a couple grand, and
that's
where you're wrong. I hate the prices just as much as the next guy, but
they do in fact need to feed their families. In fact, they need to do a
hell of a lot more
Hi Jörg,
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 16:40:50 Joerg Schilling wrote:
After that, the zpool did notice that there is more space:
zpool list
NAME SIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT
test 476M 1,28M 475M 0% ONLINE -
That's the size already after the initial creation,
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:45 AM, David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 01:27, Tim Cook wrote:
Except you think the original engineering is just a couple grand, and
that's
where you're wrong. I hate the prices just as much as the next guy, but
they do in fact
On Tue, February 2, 2010 09:58, Tim Cook wrote:
It's called spreading the costs around. Would you really rather pay 10x
the price on everything else besides the drives?
This seems to miss the point. I presented an argument for why I think the
qualified drives are a huge profit-center, not
Hi Tonmaus,
That's good to hear. Which revision are they: 00R6B0 or 00P8B0? It's marked on
the drive top.
From what I've seen elsewhere, people seem to be complaining about the newer
00P8B0 revision, so I'd be interested to hear from you. These revision numbers
are listed in the first post of
Carsten Aulbert carsten.aulb...@aei.mpg.de wrote:
Hi Jörg,
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 16:40:50 Joerg Schilling wrote:
After that, the zpool did notice that there is more space:
zpool list
NAME SIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT
test 476M 1,28M 475M 0% ONLINE -
On 02/02/2010 16:09, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Carsten Aulbertcarsten.aulb...@aei.mpg.de wrote:
Hi Jörg,
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 16:40:50 Joerg Schilling wrote:
After that, the zpool did notice that there is more space:
zpool list
NAME SIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT
test
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the problem go away in an
expedient manner. That said, I see how much we spend on NetApp storage at
work and it makes me shudder ;)
I think someone was wondering if the large storage vendors have their own
microcode on drives? I can tell you that
Marc Nicholas geekyth...@gmail.com wrote:
I think someone was wondering if the large storage vendors have their own
microcode on drives? I can tell you that NetApp do...and that's one way they
lock you in (if the drive doesn't report NetApp firmware, the filer will
reject the drive) and also
Hi Joerg,
Eabling the autoexpand property after the disk replacement is complete
should expand the pool. This looks like a bug. I can reproduce this
issue with files. It seems to be working as expected for disks.
See the output below.
Thanks, Cindy
Create pool test with 2 68 GB drives:
#
On Tue, February 2, 2010 10:21, Marc Nicholas wrote:
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the problem go away in
an
expedient manner. That said, I see how much we spend on NetApp storage at
work and it makes me shudder ;)
Yes, exactly. Pricing must be about right, people wince
On 02/02/2010 16:48, Cindy Swearingen wrote:
Hi Joerg,
Eabling the autoexpand property after the disk replacement is complete
should expand the pool. This looks like a bug. I can reproduce this
issue with files. It seems to be working as expected for disks.
See the output below.
If you use
This reminds me of this attorney that charged very much for a contract template
he copied and gave to a client. To that, he responded:
-You dont pay for me finding this template and copying to you, which took me 5
minutes. You pay me because I sat 5 years in the university, and have 15 years
of
That's good to hear. Which revision are they: 00R6B0
or 00P8B0? It's marked on the drive top.
Interesting. I wonder if this is the issue too with the 01U1B0 2.0TB drives?
I have 24 WD2002FYPS-01U1B0 drives under OpenSolaris with an LSI 1068E
controller that have weird timeout issues and I
On Feb 2, 2010, at 8:49 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 10:21, Marc Nicholas wrote:
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the problem go away in
an
expedient manner. That said, I see how much we spend on NetApp storage at
work and it makes me shudder ;)
Yes,
* On 02 Feb 2010, Darren J Moffat wrote:
zpool get autoexpand test
This seems to be a new property -- it's not in my Solaris 10 or
OpenSolaris 2009.06 systems, and they have always expanded immediately
upon replacement. In what build number or official release does
autoexpand appear, and
On 02/02/2010 17:29, David Champion wrote:
* On 02 Feb 2010, Darren J Moffat wrote:
zpool get autoexpand test
This seems to be a new property -- it's not in my Solaris 10 or
OpenSolaris 2009.06 systems, and they have always expanded immediately
upon replacement. In what build number or
On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:29 AM, David Champion wrote:
* On 02 Feb 2010, Darren J Moffat wrote:
zpool get autoexpand test
This seems to be a new property -- it's not in my Solaris 10 or
OpenSolaris 2009.06 systems, and they have always expanded immediately
upon replacement. In what build
Hi David,
This feature integrated into build 117, which would be beyond
your OpenSolaris 2009.06. We anticipate this feature will be
available in an upcoming Solaris 10 release.
You can read about it here:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2271/githb?a=view
ZFS Device Replacement
On February 2, 2010 8:57:32 AM -0800 Orvar Korvar
knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
I love that Sun shares their products for free. Which other big Unix
vendor does that?
Who's left?
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frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote:
On February 2, 2010 8:57:32 AM -0800 Orvar Korvar
knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
I love that Sun shares their products for free. Which other big Unix
vendor does that?
Who's left?
Pretty sure HP and
* On 02 Feb 2010, Orvar Korvar wrote:
Ok, I see that the chassi contains a mother board. So never mind that
question.
Another q: Is it possible to have large chassi with lots of drives,
and the opensolaris in another chassi, how do you connect them both?
The J4500 and most other storage
On February 2, 2010 11:58:17 AM -0600 Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Frank Cusack
frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote:
On February 2, 2010 8:57:32 AM -0800 Orvar Korvar
knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
I love that Sun shares their products for free. Which
* On 02 Feb 2010, Richard Elling wrote:
This behaviour has changed twice. Long ago, the pools would autoexpand.
This is a bad thing, by default, so it was changed such that the expansion
would only occur on pool import (around 3-4 years ago). The autoexpand
property allows you to expand
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Frank Cusack
frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote:
On February 2, 2010 11:58:17 AM -0600 Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Frank Cusack
frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote:
On February 2, 2010 8:57:32 AM -0800 Orvar Korvar
The problems you had with the x8dtn, did the affect the x8dtn+-o that you know
of, or just the -6?
I'm thinking of building a system around this due to the PCI-X so I can use the
AOC-SAT2-MV8.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Orvar Korvar
knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
I see 24 drives in an external chassi. I presume that chassis does only hold
drives, it does not hold a motherboard.
How do you connect all drives to your OpenSolaris server? Do you place them
next to each
On February 2, 2010 12:08:13 PM -0600 Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote:
Not exactly unix, but there's still VMS clusters running around out there
with 100% uptime for over 20 years. I wouldn't mind seeing it opened up.
Agreed, I'd love to see that opened up. Might even give it new life.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote:
Which consumer-priced 1.5TB drives do people currently recommend?
I happened to be looking at the Hitachi product information, and
noticed that the Deskstar 7K2000 appears to be supported in RAID
configurations. One of the
100% uptime for 20 years?
So what makes OpenVMS so much more stable than Unix? What is the difference?
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Also, both of those chassis come in SAS expander version and JBOD. the SAS
expander version is the E1 version of the case. With the SAS Expander, and a
motherboard using the LSI2008 or LSI1068 chipset, you can attach one cable from
the SAS port (SFF8087) to the SAS expander and have all the
1) SAS HBA seems to be an I/O card which has SAS cable connection. It sits in
the OSol server. It is basically just a simple I/O card, right? I hope these
cards are cheap?
2) So I can buy a disk chassi with 24 disks, connect all disks to one SAS cable
and connect that SAS cable to my OSol
If I'm not mistaken then the WD2002FYPS is an enterprise model: WD RE4-GP (RAID
Edition, Green Power), so you almost certainly have the firmware that allows
(1) the idle time before spindown to be modified with WDIDLE3.EXE and (2) the
error reporting time to be modified with WDTLER.EXE.
So I
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote:
Which consumer-priced 1.5TB drives do people currently recommend?
I happened to be looking at the Hitachi product information, and
noticed that the
Just for the record, using 127.0.0.1 as the target instead of
localhost's external IP, the problem didn't show up anymore.
Le 16/01/10 15:55, Arnaud Brand a écrit :
OK, the third question (localhost transmission failure) should have been posted
to storage-discuss.
I'll subscribe to this list
The thing that puts me off the 7K2000 is that it is a 5 platter model. The
latest 2TB drives use 4 x 500GB platters. A bit less noise, vibration and heat,
in theory :)
And the latest 1.5TB drives use only 3 x 500GB platters.
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IIRC the Black range are meant to be the 'performance' models and so are a bit
noisy. What's your opinion? And the 2TB models are not cheap either for a home
user. The 1TB seem a good price. And from what little I read, it seems you can
control the error reporting time with the WDTLER.EXE
I'm running the 500GB models myself, but I wouldn't say they're overly
noisyand I've been doing ZFS/iSCSI/IOMeter/Bonnie++ stress testing with
them.
They whine rather than click FYI.
-marc
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC the Black range are meant
Hi folks,
I'm having (as the title suggests) a problem with zfs send/receive.
Command line is like this :
pfexec zfs send -Rp tank/t...@snapshot | ssh remotehost pfexec zfs recv
-v -F -d tank
This works like a charm as long as the snapshot is small enough.
When it gets too big (meaning
On February 2, 2010 11:58:12 AM -0800 Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com
wrote:
IIRC the Black range are meant to be the 'performance' models and so are
a bit noisy. What's your opinion? And the 2TB models are not cheap either
for a home user. The 1TB seem a good price. And from what little I read,
On Tue, February 2, 2010 11:26, Richard Elling wrote:
On Feb 2, 2010, at 8:49 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 10:21, Marc Nicholas wrote:
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the problem go away
in
an
expedient manner. That said, I see how much we spend on
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Orvar Korvar
knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
100% uptime for 20 years?
So what makes OpenVMS so much more stable than Unix? What is the
difference?
They had/have clustering software that was/is bulletproof. I don't think
anyone in the Unix community
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:14 PM, David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 11:26, Richard Elling wrote:
On Feb 2, 2010, at 8:49 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 10:21, Marc Nicholas wrote:
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the
On Tue, February 2, 2010 14:21, Tim Cook wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:14 PM, David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 11:26, Richard Elling wrote:
On Feb 2, 2010, at 8:49 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
On Tue, February 2, 2010 10:21, Marc Nicholas wrote:
I agree
On 2010-Feb-03 00:12:43 +0800, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us
wrote:
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Now, I'm sure not ALL drives offered at Newegg could qualify; but the
question is, how much do I give up by buying an enterprise-grade drive
from a major
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cusack
frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote:
That said, I doubt 2TB drives represent good value for a home user.
They WILL fail more frequently and as a home user you aren't likely
to be keeping multiple spares on hand to avoid warranty replacement
time.
On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Arnaud Brand wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm having (as the title suggests) a problem with zfs send/receive.
Command line is like this :
pfexec zfs send -Rp tank/t...@snapshot | ssh remotehost pfexec zfs recv -v -F
-d tank
This works like a charm as long as the
On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
100% uptime for 20 years?
So what makes OpenVMS so much more stable than Unix? What is the difference?
Software reliability studies show that the more reliable software is
old software that hasn't changed :-)
On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:42 PM,
On February 2, 2010 4:31:47 PM -0500 Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote:
and FCoE is just dumb if you have IB, honestly.
by FCoE are you talking about iSCSI?
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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Frank Cusack wrote:
On February 2, 2010 4:31:47 PM -0500 Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote:
and FCoE is just dumb if you have IB, honestly.
by FCoE are you talking about iSCSI?
No. They are different. FCoE uses raw ethernet packets and
ethernet switches can/should
On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Frank Cusack wrote:
On February 2, 2010 4:31:47 PM -0500 Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote:
and FCoE is just dumb if you have IB, honestly.
by FCoE are you talking about iSCSI?
FCoE is to iSCSI as Netware (IPX/SPX) is to NFS :-)
-- richard
On Feb 2, 2010, at 2:56 PM, David Magda wrote:
On Feb 2, 2010, at 15:17, Tim Cook wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
100% uptime for 20 years?
So what makes OpenVMS so much more stable than Unix? What is the
difference?
They had/have clustering software
fc == Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.net writes:
fc by FCoE are you talking about iSCSI?
FCoE is an L2 design where ethernet ``pause'' frames can be sent
specific to one of the seven CoS levels instead of applying to the
entire port, which makes PAUSE abuseable for other purposes
I'm currently running:
OpenSolaris 2009.06 snv_111b X86
Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Assembled 07 May 2009
Or uname shows SunOS fsfs 5.11
On 3/02/10 09:31 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Just got a bunch of change notification emails on my report of a zfs
send/receive segfault. I can't find this online anywhere though, so I
can't check a couple of things.
Strange thing though is that although it just changed ownership and then
On Tue, February 2, 2010 17:34, James C. McPherson wrote:
On 3/02/10 09:31 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Can anybody who can see the CR online figure out what release build the
fix was / will be in? Speaking of what build I should upgrade to :-).
closed as duplicate of
6696858 zfs
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Miles Nordin wrote:
fc == Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.net writes:
fc by FCoE are you talking about iSCSI?
FCoE is an L2 design where ethernet ``pause'' frames can be sent
specific to one of the seven CoS levels instead of applying to the
entire port, which
Le 02/02/10 22:49, Tim Cook a crit:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Richard
Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com
wrote:
On
Feb 2, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Arnaud Brand wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm having (as the title suggests) a problem with zfs send/receive.
Command line is like this :
pfexec zfs
On January 14, 2010 1:08:56 PM -0500 Frank Cusack fcus...@fcusack.com
wrote:
I know this is slightly OT but folks discuss zfs compatible hardware
here all the time. :)
Has anyone used something like this combination?
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1346664
On 2-Feb-10, at 1:54 PM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
100% uptime for 20 years?
So what makes OpenVMS so much more stable than Unix? What is the
difference?
The short answer is that uptimes like that are VMS *cluster* uptimes.
Individual hosts don't necessarily have that uptime, but the cluster
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Arnaud Brand t...@tib.cc wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm having (as the title suggests) a problem with zfs send/receive.
Command line is like this :
pfexec zfs send -Rp tank/t...@snapshot | ssh remotehost pfexec zfs recv -v -F
-d tank
This works like a charm as long
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Arnaud Brand t...@tib.cc wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm having (as the title suggests) a problem with zfs send/receive.
Command line is like this :
pfexec zfs send -Rp tank/t...@snapshot | ssh
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