Re: [zfs-discuss] Reading ZFS config for an extended period

2010-02-13 Thread taemun
After around four days the process appeared to have stalled (no audible hard drive activity). I restarted with milestone=none; deleted /etc/zfs/zpool.cache, restarted, and went zpool import tank. (also allowed root login to ssh, so I could make new ssh sessions if required.) Now I can watch the pro

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs import fails even though all disks are online

2010-02-13 Thread Marc Friesacher
The problem has been resolved by Victor. Thank you again for your time and effort yesterday. I don't think I would have ever been able to get my data back without your level of expertise and hands-on approach. As discussed last night, the important data has been backed up already and come Monda

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 13, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > Please add some raidz3 tests :-) We have little data on how raidz3 > > performs. > > Does this require a specific version of OS? I'm on Solaris 10 10/09, and > "man zpool" doesn't seem to say anything about raidz3 ... I haven't tried

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS

2010-02-13 Thread Brad
Don't use raidz for the raid type - go with a striped set -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS (Jason King)

2010-02-13 Thread Allen Eastwood
So, one of the tricks I've used in the past is to assign a volname in format as I use luns. Dunno if that's an option with ASM? ZFS seems to blow those away, the last time I looked. -A On Feb 13, 2010, at 14:32 , Jason King wrote: > My problem is when you have 100+ luns divided between OS an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS (Jason King)

2010-02-13 Thread Jason King
My problem is when you have 100+ luns divided between OS and DB, keeping track of what's for what can become problematic. It becomes even worse when you start adding luns -- the chance of accidentally grabbing a DB lun instead of one of the new ones is non-trivial (then there's also the chance th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > kind as to collect samples of "iosnoop -Da" I would be eternally > grateful :-) I'm guessing iosnoop is an opensolaris thing?  Is there an equivalent for solaris? Iosnoop is part of the DTrace Toolkit by Brendan Gregg, which does work on Sol

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS (Jason King)

2010-02-13 Thread Allen Eastwood
> There is of course the caveat of using raw devices with databases (it > becomes harder to track usage, especially as the number of LUNs > increases, slightly less visibility into their usage statistics at the > OS level ). However perhaps now someone can implement the CR I filed > a long time

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS

2010-02-13 Thread Jason King
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Jim Mauro wrote: > Using ZFS for Oracle can be configured to deliver very good performance. > Depending on what your priorities are in terms of critical metrics, keep in > mind > that the most performant solution is to use Oracle ASM on raw disk devices. > That is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> IMHO, sequential tests are a waste of time. With default configs, it > will be > difficult to separate the "raw" performance from prefetched > performance. > You might try disabling prefetch as an option. Let me clarify: Iozone does a nonsequential series of sequential tests, specifi

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs/sol10u8 less stable than in sol10u5?

2010-02-13 Thread sean walmsley
We recently patched our X4500 from Sol10 U6 to Sol10 U8 and have not noticed anything like what you're seeing. We do not have any SSD devices installed. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Hedrick
I have a similar situation. I have a system that is used for backup copies of logs and other non-critical things, where the primary copy is on a Netapp. Data gets written in batches a few times a day. We use this system because storage on it is a lot less expensive than on the Netapp. It's only

Re: [zfs-discuss] available space

2010-02-13 Thread Thomas Burgess
one shows pool size, one shows filesystem size. the pool size is based on raw space. the zfs list size shows how much is used and how much usable space is ableable. for instance, i use raidz2 with 1tb drives so if i do zpool list i see ALL the space, including parity, but if i do zfs list i onl

[zfs-discuss] available space

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Hedrick
I have the following pool: NAME SIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT OIRT 6.31T 3.72T 2.59T58% ONLINE / "zfs list" shows the following for a typical file system: NAMEUSED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT OIRT/sakai/production 1.40T 1.77T 1.40T /OIRT/sakai/produc

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Make sure to also test with a command like iozone -m -t 8 -T -O -r 128k -o -s 12G Actually, it seems that this is more than sufficient: iozone -m -t 8 -T -r 128k -o -s 4G since it creates a 4GB test file for each thread, with 8 threads. Bob --

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Will test, including the time to flush(), various record sizes inside file sizes up to 16G, sequential write and sequential read.  Not doing any mixed read/write requests.  Not doing any random read/write. iozone -Reab somefile.wks -g 17G -i 1 -i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS

2010-02-13 Thread Jim Mauro
Using ZFS for Oracle can be configured to deliver very good performance. Depending on what your priorities are in terms of critical metrics, keep in mind that the most performant solution is to use Oracle ASM on raw disk devices. That is not intended to imply anything negative about ZFS or UFS.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Elling
Some thoughts below... On Feb 13, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > I have a new server, with 7 disks in it. I am performing benchmarks on it > before putting it into production, to substantiate claims I make, like > “striping mirrors is faster than raidz” and so on. Would anybody

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 13, 2010, at 5:23 AM, Tony MacDoodle wrote: > Was wondering if anyone has had any performance issues with Oracle running on > ZFS as compared to UFS? The ZFS for Databases wiki is the place to collect information and advice for database on ZFS. http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD and ZFS

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Elling
comment below... On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, TMB wrote: > I have a similar question, I put together a cheapo RAID with four 1TB WD > Black (7200) SATAs, in a 3TB RAIDZ1, and I added a 64GB OCZ Vertex SSD, with > slice 0 (5GB) for ZIL and the rest of the SSD for cache: > # zpool status dpool >

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs import fails even though all disks are online

2010-02-13 Thread Victor Latushkin
Mark J Musante wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Cindy Swearingen wrote: On 02/11/10 04:01, Marc Friesacher wrote: fr...@vault:~# zpool import pool: zedpool id: 10232199590840258590 state: ONLINE action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier. config: zedpool

[zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations

2010-02-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I have a new server, with 7 disks in it. I am performing benchmarks on it before putting it into production, to substantiate claims I make, like "striping mirrors is faster than raidz" and so on. Would anybody like me to test any particular configuration? Unfortunately I don't have any SSD, so I

[zfs-discuss] Oracle Performance - ZFS vs UFS

2010-02-13 Thread Tony MacDoodle
Was wondering if anyone has had any performance issues with Oracle running on ZFS as compared to UFS? Thanks ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another user looses his pool (10TB) in this case and 40 days work

2010-02-13 Thread Remco Lengers
I just have the say this, and I don't mean it in a bad way... If you really care about your data why then use usb drives with lose cables and (apparently no backup) USB connected drives for data backup are okay, for playing around and getting to know ZFS seems also okay. Using it for onlin

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another user looses his pool (10TB) in this case and 40 days work

2010-02-13 Thread Andy Stenger
I had a very similar problem. 8 external USB drives running OpenSolaris native. When I moved the machine into a different room and powered it back up (there were a couple of reboots and a couple of broken usb cables and drive shut downs in between), I got the same error. Loosing that much data is d

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD and ZFS

2010-02-13 Thread Tracey Bernath
Thanks Brendan, I was going to move it over to 8kb block size once I got through this index rebuild. My thinking was that a disproportionate block size would show up as excessive IO thruput, not a lack of thruput. The question about the cache comes from the fact that the 18GB or so that it says is