Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Dedup delete FS advice needed!!

2010-08-16 Thread Marc Emmerson
Hi Victor, I just woke up and checked my server and the delete operation has completed, however I ran your command anyway and here is the output: m...@server:~$ echo ::arc | pfexec mdb -k hits = 352207629 misses= 2291912 demand_data_hits =

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Dedup delete FS advice needed!!

2010-08-16 Thread Marc Emmerson
Tim, thanks, you were right, it looks like the destroy completed in about an hour or so after the additional memory was added. Much appreciated, Marc -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Dedup delete FS advice needed!!

2010-08-16 Thread Victor Latushkin
On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Marc Emmerson wrote: Hi Victor, I just woke up and checked my server and the delete operation has completed, however I ran your command anyway and here is the output: If all is well, then requested information is no longer relevant ;-) victor

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote: (The only way I could see this changing would be if there was a sudden license change which would permit either ZFS to overtake btrfs in the Linux kernel, or permit btrfs to overtake zfs in the Solaris kernel. I There is only a need for a mind

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS pool and filesystem version list, OpenSolaris builds list

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Haudy Kazemi kaze0...@umn.edu wrote: EON (Embedded ON) NAS (Network Attached Storage) EON ver 0.60.0 is based on build 130 EON ver 0.59.9 is based on build 129 EON ver 0.59.5 is based on build 125 EON ver 0.59.4 is based on build 124 EON ver 0.59.3 is based on build 122 EON ver 0.59.2 is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Garrett D'Amore [mailto:garr...@nexenta.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 8:17 PM (The only way I could see this changing would be if there was a sudden license change which would permit either ZFS to overtake btrfs in the Linux kernel, or permit btrfs to overtake zfs in the Solaris

[zfs-discuss] Replaced pool device shows up in zpool status

2010-08-16 Thread Matthias Appel
Hi all, yesterday I had to remove a zpool device due to controller errors (I tried to replace the harddisk, but checksum errors occured again) so I connected a fresh harddisk to another controller port. Now I have the problem that zpool status looks as following: r...@storage:~# zpool status

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Magda
On Sun, August 15, 2010 21:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: Given that both provide similar features, it's difficult to see why Oracle would continue to invest in both. Given that ZFS is the more mature product, it would seem more logical to transfer all the effort to ZFS and leave btrfs to die. Or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.com wrote: ZFS does raid, and mirroring, and resilvering, and partitioning, and NFS, and CIFS, and iSCSI, and device management via vdev's, and so on. So ZFS steps on a lot of linux peoples' toes. They already have code to do

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Magda
On Mon, August 16, 2010 09:06, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: ZFS does raid, and mirroring, and resilvering, and partitioning, and NFS, and CIFS, and iSCSI, and device management via vdev's, and so on. So ZFS steps on a lot of linux peoples' toes. They already have code to do this, or that, why

Re: [zfs-discuss] EMC migration and zfs

2010-08-16 Thread Mike DeMarco
Bump this up. Anyone? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Peter Jeremy peter.jer...@alcatel-lucent.com wrote: Given that both provide similar features, it's difficult to see why Oracle would continue to invest in both. Given that ZFS is the more mature product, it would seem more logical to transfer all the effort to

Re: [zfs-discuss] New Supermicro SAS/SATA controller: AOC-USAS2-L8e in SOHO NAS and HD HTPC

2010-08-16 Thread Mike DeMarco
What I would really like to know is why do pci-e raid controller cards cost more than an entire motherboard with processor. Some cards can cost over $1,000 dollars, for what. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS pool and filesystem version list, OpenSolaris builds list

2010-08-16 Thread Mark J Musante
I keep the pool version information up-to-date here: http://blogs.sun.com/mmusante/entry/a_zfs_taxonomy On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Haudy Kazemi wrote: Hello, This is a consolidated list of ZFS pool and filesystem versions, along with the builds and systems they are found in. It is based on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Replaced pool device shows up in zpool status

2010-08-16 Thread Mark J Musante
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Matthias Appel wrote: Can anybody tell me how to get rid of c1t3d0 and heal my zpool? Can you do a zpool detach performance c1t3d0/o? If that works, then zpool replace performance c1t3d0 c1t0d0 should replace the bad disk with the new hot spare. Once the resilver

Re: [zfs-discuss] EMC migration and zfs

2010-08-16 Thread Richard Elling
In general, ZFS can handle importing a pool from devices with different paths. This has been true for many years. On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Mike DeMarco wrote: We are going to be migrating to a new EMC frame using Open Replicator. I have no idea what Open Replicator is. Perhaps nobody

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Gary Mills
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:54:13PM -0700, Erast wrote: On 08/13/2010 01:39 PM, Tim Cook wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/opensolaris_is_dead/ I'm a bit surprised at this development... Oracle really just doesn't get it. The part that's most disturbing to me is the fact they

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:21 AM, David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: On Sun, August 15, 2010 20:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release any future btrfs or ZFS improvements (or even bugfixes). They can't retrospectively change

Re: [zfs-discuss] New Supermicro SAS/SATA controller: AOC-USAS2-L8e in SOHO NAS and HD HTPC

2010-08-16 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Mike DeMarco mikej...@yahoo.com wrote: What I would really like to know is why do pci-e raid controller cards cost more than an entire motherboard with processor. Some cards can cost over $1,000 dollars, for what. Because they include a motherboard and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:35:05AM -0700, Tim Cook wrote: No, no they don't. You're under the misconception that they no longer own the code just because they released a copy as GPL. That is not true. Anyone ELSE who uses the GPL code must release modifications if they wish to distribute it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: On Sun, August 15, 2010 20:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release any future btrfs or ZFS improvements (or even bugfixes). They can't retrospectively change the license on already released

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread C. Bergström
Tim Cook wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:21 AM, David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net mailto:d...@dd-b.net wrote: On Sun, August 15, 2010 20:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release any future btrfs or ZFS improvements

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. Well, Oracle obviously would want btrfs to stay as part of the Linux kernel rather than die a death of anonymity outside of it... As such, they'll need to continue to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:48:31AM -0700, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. Well, Oracle obviously would want btrfs to stay as part of the Linux kernel rather than die a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Mon, August 16, 2010 10:48, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. Well, Oracle obviously would want btrfs to stay as part of the Linux kernel rather than die a death of anonymity

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:35:05AM -0700, Tim Cook wrote: No, no they don't. You're under the misconception that they no longer own the code just because they released a copy as GPL. That is not true. Anyone ELSE

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Mon, August 16, 2010 10:43, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: On Sun, August 15, 2010 20:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release any future btrfs or ZFS improvements (or even bugfixes). They can't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris Mason.. it depends on the linux kernel too much already to be available under anything, but GPLv2 If he really believes this, then he seems to be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread C. Bergström
Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris Mason.. it depends on the linux kernel too much already to be available under anything, but GPLv2 If he really

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: As such, they'll need to continue to comply with GPLv2 requirements. No, there is definitely no need for Oracle to comply with the GPL as they own the code. Ray's point is, how long would BTRFS remain in the Linux kernel in that case? Such a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:55:49AM -0700, Tim Cook wrote: Why would they obviously want that? When the project started, they were competing with Sun. They now own Solaris; they no longer have a need to produce a competing product. I would be EXTREMELY surprised to see Oracle continue to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:58:20AM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 08:52 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:48:31AM -0700, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:57:19AM -0700, Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris Mason.. it depends on the linux kernel too much already to be available under

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:08:52AM -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:57:19AM -0700, Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris Mason.. it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Tim Cook
2010/8/16 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris Mason.. it depends on the linux kernel too much already to be available under

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Mon, August 16, 2010 11:01, Joerg Schilling wrote: David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: As such, they'll need to continue to comply with GPLv2 requirements. No, there is definitely no need for Oracle to comply with the GPL as they own the code. Ray's point is, how long would

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:57:19AM -0700, Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Cindy, UID/GID on both are the same. Do not want to use aumounter at this point. Need to get it working first. Besides mounting the filesystem Is not the issue. The issue is writing to it. Phillip -Original Message- From: Cindy Swearingen [mailto:cindy.swearin...@oracle.com] Sent:

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Cindy, I appreciate your help. Understand the NFS server is Solaris 10 The Client is Solaris 9 Here what I see on the client system: # mount -o rw server1:/nfs /nfs/backup # cd /nfs/backup # touch me touch: me cannot create # showmount -e server1 export list for server1: /nfs (everyone) #

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Cindy, I forgot to post the server NFS config. # zpool status pool: nfs state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM nfs ONLINE 0 0 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Cindy, I will agree with NFS statement. No this is not a tmp or lofs mount. I am very clear on what it is. This is a ZFS filesystem being exported. This was mounted as root and needs to be. Standard permission applied. Tested as root. No other permission needs to be checked. But since you

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Peter Karlsson
Hi Phillip, What's the permissions on the directory where you try to write to, and what user are you using on the client system, it's most likely a UID mapping issue between the client and the server. /peter On 8/14/10 3:19 , Phillip Bruce wrote: I have Solaris 10 U7 that is exporting ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Peter Karlsson
On 8/14/10 11:49 , Phillip Bruce (Mindsource) wrote: Peter, what would you expect for root? That is the user I am at. root is default mapped to annon, if you don't specifically export it with the option to allow root on one or more clients to be mapped to local root on the server. zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Peter, what would you expect for root? That is the user I am at. Like I already stated it is NOT a UID or GUID issue. Both systems are the same. Phillip From: Peter Karlsson [peter.k.karls...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:23 PM To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Peter, Ah!!! that my problem, thanks for the tip. i agree and did not explicidly export to allow that host for rw. Phillip From: Peter Karlsson [peter.k.karls...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:21 PM To: Phillip Bruce (Mindsource) Cc:

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS issue with ZFS

2010-08-16 Thread Phillip Bruce (Mindsource)
Peter, Thanks for the suggestions, I'm getting closer to solving the problem. it definitely works when using anon setting. I can read / write to the filesystem all day long. But as you mentioned using anon is a bad idea and a security risk. Something I get my hand slapped with keeping this in

[zfs-discuss] Zpool import hangs, disk label issues

2010-08-16 Thread Peter VanBuren
Hi, I am having trouble with a 8 disk raidz2 pool. Last week I noticed any commands that were accessing the pool's filesystems would hang (ls, df etc...). The logs showed some read errors for two of the drives. I had to power cycle the machine since I could not shut it down cleanly. After

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Moellenkamp
The problem is: The first time the a software release is considered stable, it takes significant time for the uptake and the moment it's really stable. ZFS was introduced almost 5 years ago to the public and just now it gets mayor uptake in the field. I still don't get it, why brtfs should be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Moellenkamp
Fedora is a great beta test arena for what eventually becomes a commercial Enterprise offering. OpenSolaris was the Solaris equivalent. Losing the free bleeding edge testing community will no doubt impact on the Solaris code quality. I think code quality has nothing to do with open-sourcing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:15:12AM -0700, Tim Cook wrote: Or, for all you know, Chris Mason's contract has a non-compete that states if he leaves Oracle he's not allowed to work on any project he was a part of for five years. The business motivation would be to set the competition back a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: The real question is, WHY would they do it? What would be the business motivation here? Chris Mason would most likely leave Oracle, Red Hat would hire him and fork the last GPL'd version of btrfs and Oracle would have relegated itself to a non-player in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread C. Bergström
Tim Cook wrote: 2010/8/16 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org mailto:codest...@osunix.org Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org mailto:codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

2010-08-16 Thread Scott Meilicke
I had already begun the process of migrating my 134 boxes over to Nexenta before Oracle's cunning plans became known. This just reaffirms my decision. Us too. :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Tim Cook
2010/8/16 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org Tim Cook wrote: 2010/8/16 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org mailto: codest...@osunix.org Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org mailto:codest...@osunix.org wrote: I absolutely guarantee

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Aug 16 at 8:52, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:48:31AM -0700, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. Well, Oracle obviously would want btrfs to stay as part

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Aug 16 at 11:15, Tim Cook wrote: Or, for all you know, Chris Mason's contract has a non-compete that states if he leaves Oracle he's not allowed to work on any project he was a part of for five years. IANAL, but as my discussions with employment lawyers in my state have explained

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Peter Jeremy wrote: Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release any future btrfs or ZFS improvements (or even bugfixes). They can't retrospectively change the license on already released code but they can put a different (non-OSS) license on any

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Sun, August 15, 2010 09:19, David Magda wrote: On Aug 14, 2010, at 14:54, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Russ Price For me, Solaris had zero mindshare since its beginning, on account of being prohibitively expensive. I hear that a lot, and I don't get it. $400/yr does move it out of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: insults. Oracle can pull the plug at any time they choose. *ONE* developer from Redhat does not change the fact that Oracle owns the rights to the majority of the code, and can relicense it, or discontinue code updates, as they see fit. It would be most

Re: [zfs-discuss] JET and ZFS ?

2010-08-16 Thread Lori Alt
I don't know much about JET, but a jumpstart install of a system with a zfs root will do the necessary disk formatting. The profile keywords that describe the disk layout work more or less the same for zfs as they do for ufs, subject to the ways that zfs is different from ufs (you don't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Andrej Podzimek
Well, a typical conversation about speed and stability usually boils down to this: A: I've heard that XYZ is unstable and slow. B: Are you sure? Have you tested XYZ? What are your benchmark results? Have you had any issues? A: No. I *have* *not* *tested* XYZ. I think XYZ is so unstable and slow

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Andrej Podzimek and...@podzimek.org wrote: P. S. As far as Phoronix is concerned... Well, I remember how they once used a malfunctioning and crippled Reiser4 implementation (hacked by the people around the ZEN patchset so that it caused data corruption (!) and kernel crashes) and compared

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Mon, August 16, 2010 15:35, Joerg Schilling wrote: I know of ext* performance checks where people did run gtar to unpack a linux kernel archive and these people did nothing but metering the wall clock time for gtar. I repeated this test and it turned out, that Linux did not even start

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: I repeated this test and it turned out, that Linux did not even start to write to the disk when gtar finished. As a test of ext? performance, that does seem to be lacking something! I guess it's a consequence of the low sound levels of modern disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Miles Nordin
pj == Peter Jeremy peter.jer...@alcatel-lucent.com writes: gd == Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com writes: cb == C Bergström codest...@osunix.org writes: fc == Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.net writes: tc == Tim Cook t...@cook.ms writes: pj Given that both provide similar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Miles Nordin
dd 2 * Copyright (C) 2007 Oracle. All rights reserved. dd 3 * dd 4 * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or dd 5 * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public dd 6 * License v2 as published by the Free Software Foundation. dd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David Dyer-Bennet However, if Oracle makes a binary release of BTRFS-derived code, they must release the source as well; BTRFS is under the GPL. When a copyright holder releases something

Re: [zfs-discuss] New Supermicro SAS/SATA controller: AOC-USAS2-L8e in SOHO NAS and HD HTPC

2010-08-16 Thread Russ Price
On 08/16/2010 10:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Mike DeMarcomikej...@yahoo.com wrote: What I would really like to know is why do pci-e raid controller cards cost more than an entire motherboard with processor. Some cards can cost over $1,000 dollars, for what.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- Can someone provide a link to the requisite source files so that we can see the copyright statements? It may well be that Oracle assigned the copyright to some other party. BTRFS is inside the linux kernel. Copyright (C)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Garrett D'Amore
see, that's good, and is a realistic future scenario for ZFS, AFAICT: there can be a branch that's safe to collaborate on, which cannot go into Solaris 11 and cannot be taken proprietary by Nexenta, either. In fact, we are in the process of creating a non-profit foundation for Illumos

Re: [zfs-discuss] New Supermicro SAS/SATA controller: AOC-USAS2-L8e in SOHO NAS and HD HTPC

2010-08-16 Thread Erik Trimble
On 8/16/2010 3:57 PM, Russ Price wrote: On 08/16/2010 10:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Mike DeMarcomikej...@yahoo.com wrote: What I would really like to know is why do pci-e raid controller cards cost more than an entire motherboard with processor. Some cards

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.comwrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- Can someone provide a link to the requisite source files so that we can see the copyright statements? It may well be that Oracle assigned the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Haudy Kazemi
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Sun, August 15, 2010 20:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release any future btrfs or ZFS improvements (or even bugfixes). They can't retrospectively change the license on already released code but they can

[zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-16 Thread Kishore Kumar Pusukuri
Hi, I am surprised with the performances of some 64-bit multi-threaded applications on my AMD Opteron machine. For most of the applications, the performance of 32-bit version is almost same as the performance of 64-bit version. However, for a couple of applications, 32-bit versions provide

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-16 Thread Garrett D'Amore
It can be as simple as impact on the cache. 64-bit programs tend to be bigger, and so they have a worse effect on the i-cache. Unless your program does something that can inherently benefit from 64-bit registers, or can take advantage of the richer instruction set that is available to amd64

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 21:58, Kishore Kumar Pusukuri kish...@cs.ucr.edu wrote: Hi, I am surprised with the performances of some 64-bit multi-threaded applications on my AMD Opteron machine. For most of the applications, the performance of 32-bit version is almost same as the performance of

[zfs-discuss] How do I Import rpool to an alternate location?

2010-08-16 Thread Robert Hartzell
I have a disk which is 1/2 of a boot disk mirror from a failed system that I would like to extract some data from. So i install the disk to a test system and do: zpool import -R /mnt -f rpool bertha which gives me: bertha102G 126G84K /mnt/bertha

Re: [zfs-discuss] How do I Import rpool to an alternate location?

2010-08-16 Thread Mark Musante
On 16 Aug 2010, at 22:30, Robert Hartzell wrote: cd /mnt ; ls bertha export var ls bertha boot etc where is the rest of the file systems and data? By default, root filesystems are not mounted. Try doing a zfs mount bertha/ROOT/snv_134___

Re: [zfs-discuss] How do I Import rpool to an alternate location?

2010-08-16 Thread George Wilson
The root filesystem on the root pool is set to 'canmount=noauto' so you need to manually mount it first using 'zfs mount dataset name'. Then run 'zfs mount -a'. - George On 08/16/10 07:30 PM, Robert Hartzell wrote: I have a disk which is 1/2 of a boot disk mirror from a failed system that

Re: [zfs-discuss] How do I Import rpool to an alternate location?

2010-08-16 Thread Robert Hartzell
On 08/16/10 07:39 PM, Mark Musante wrote: On 16 Aug 2010, at 22:30, Robert Hartzell wrote: cd /mnt ; ls bertha export var ls bertha boot etc where is the rest of the file systems and data? By default, root filesystems are not mounted. Try doing a zfs mount bertha/ROOT/snv_134 This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Frank Cusack
On 8/16/10 9:57 AM -0400 Ross Walker wrote: No, the only real issue is the license and I highly doubt Oracle will re-release ZFS under GPL to dilute it's competitive advantage. You're saying Oracle wants to keep zfs out of Linux? ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] How do I Import rpool to an alternate location?

2010-08-16 Thread Robert Hartzell
On 08/16/10 07:47 PM, George Wilson wrote: The root filesystem on the root pool is set to 'canmount=noauto' so you need to manually mount it first using 'zfs mount dataset name'. Then run 'zfs mount -a'. - George mounting the dataset failed because the /mnt dir was not empty and zfs mount

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote: On 8/16/10 9:57 AM -0400 Ross Walker wrote: No, the only real issue is the license and I highly doubt Oracle will re-release ZFS under GPL to dilute it's competitive advantage. You're saying Oracle wants to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

2010-08-16 Thread Carsten Aulbert
On Sunday 15 August 2010 11:56:22 Joerg Moellenkamp wrote: And by the way: Wasn't there a comment of Linus Torvals recently that people shound move their low-quality code into the codebase ??? ;) Yeah, those codes should be put into the staging part of the codebase, so that (more) people

Re: [zfs-discuss] How do I Import rpool to an alternate location?

2010-08-16 Thread George Wilson
Robert Hartzell wrote: On 08/16/10 07:47 PM, George Wilson wrote: The root filesystem on the root pool is set to 'canmount=noauto' so you need to manually mount it first using 'zfs mount dataset name'. Then run 'zfs mount -a'. - George mounting the dataset failed because the /mnt dir was