[zfs-discuss] Zpool scrub and reboot.

2010-08-19 Thread Peter Hawkins
Suppose I start a zpool scrub and reboot before the scrub is finished. On reboot does the scrub carry on from where it left off or does it start at the beginning again? Thanks -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: If a shell script may be dependent on GNU 'cat', does that make the shell script a derived work? Note that GNU 'cat' could be replaced with some other 'cat' since 'cat' has a well defined interface. A very similar situation exists for loadable

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: A quick test with a C++ application I'm working with which does a lot of string and container manipulation shows it runs about 10% slower in 64 bit mode on AMD64 and about the same in 32 or 64 bit on a core i7. Built with -fast. This may be a result of

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/19/10 08:51 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote: A quick test with a C++ application I'm working with which does a lot of string and container manipulation shows it runs about 10% slower in 64 bit mode on AMD64 and about the same in 32 or 64 bit on a core

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

2010-08-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Linder, Doug there are an awful lot of places that actively DO NOT want the latest and greatest, and for good reason. Agreed. Latest-greatest has its place, which is not 24/7

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Jeremy My interpretation of those results is that you can't generalise: The only way to determine whether your application is faster in 32-bit or 64-bit more is to test it. And your

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in Linux (was Opensolaris is apparently dead)

2010-08-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Schilling 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not

[zfs-discuss] Unable to mount legacy pool in to zone

2010-08-19 Thread keegam
So i've inherited this solaris 10 system with a sun storedge attached. pool: tol-pool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tol-pool ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz1 ONLINE 0 0 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in Linux (was Opensolaris is apparently dead)

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.com wrote: The reasons for ZFS not in Linux must be more than just the license issue. If Linux has ZFS, then it would be possible to do - I/O performance analysis based on the same FS implementation - stability analysis for data, crashes, ...

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-19 Thread Paul Choi
Apparently, I must not be using the right web form... I would update the case sometimes via the web, and it seems like no one actually saw it. Or, some other engineer comes along and asks me the same set of questions that were already answered (and recorded in the case records!). Another

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Totally TO] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread C. Bergström
Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:25 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/19/10 08:51 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote: A quick test with a C++ application I'm working with which does a lot of string and container manipulation shows

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Daniel Taylor
On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:25 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/19/10 08:51 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote: A quick test with a C++ application I'm working with which does a lot of string and container

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what language do you recommend? Depends on the job -- I'm a huge fan of choosing the right tool for the job. I just think C++ tries to be jack of all trades and winds up

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Totally TO] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 07:13 AM, C. Bergström wrote: (Why is this being discussed on zfs-discuss) As a distraction form the endless circular licensing arguments? -- Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 07:48 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what language do you recommend? Depends on the job -- I'm a huge fan of choosing the right tool for the job. I just

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread C. Bergström
Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what language do you recommend? Depends on the job -- I'm a huge fan of choosing the right tool for the job. I just think C++ tries to be

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Garrett D'Amore wrote: There are many many things to dislike about C++ -- you *can* write good clean code in C++, but almost none of the C++ code I've seen fits that description. The various side effects, and unexpected memory explosion that occurs with the favored C++

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread C. Bergström
Garrett D'Amore wrote: That is a major concern. But the problem is also that the ABIs created by different compilers vary. You can't mix g++ and studio generated code, for example. That's not FUD, its technical fact. Not today, but it's my understanding this will be possible in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 08:35 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 03:26 +0700, C. Bergström wrote: Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 07:48 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore garr...@nexenta.com wrote: There is no common C++ ABI. So you get into compatibility concerns between code built with different compilers (like Studio vs. g++). Fail. The interesting thing is: Sun Studio on Linux is able to interoperate with g++ Jörg --

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 08:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 07:58 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 07:48 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 09:23 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: There is no common C++ ABI. So you get into compatibility concerns between code built with different compilers (like Studio vs. g++). Fail. Which is why we have extern C. Just about any Solaris driver, library or

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:23:56AM +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 08:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: There is no common C++ ABI. So you get into compatibility concerns between code built with different compilers (like Studio vs. g++). Fail. Which is why we have extern C. Just about

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 09:26 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 09:23 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: There is no common C++ ABI. So you get into compatibility concerns between code built with different compilers (like Studio vs. g++). Fail. Which is why we have extern C. Just about

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 09:33 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:23:56AM +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 08:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: There is no common C++ ABI. So you get into compatibility concerns between code built with different compilers (like Studio vs.

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:38:51AM +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 09:33 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: Any driver C++ code would still need a C++ run-time. Either you must statically link it in, or you'll have a problem with multiple drivers using different C++ run-times. If you

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/20/10 09:48 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:38:51AM +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 09:33 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: Any driver C++ code would still need a C++ run-time. Either you must statically link it in, or you'll have a problem with multiple

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

2010-08-19 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Erik Trimble wrote: While there were certainly a few folks who ran OpenSolaris in production (who absolutely needed the new features and couldn't wait until they made it to Solaris 10), Or those features that simply were never going to be backported to S10, particularly

Re: [zfs-discuss] 2TB drive will not work on motherboard

2010-08-19 Thread seth keith
I got the motherboard wrong. It is a P45 Neo3-FR. The onboard ethernet is flaky, but supported, and the USB attached drives work fine w/ 2TB drives, but not the motherboard attached SATA ports... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

2010-08-19 Thread Frank Cusack
On 8/19/10 10:48 AM +0200 Joerg Schilling wrote: 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not prevent to bundle different works under different licenses on one medium.