Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-23 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, The Honorable Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky wrote:



Obtaining an "approved" system seems very difficult.


Because of the list being out of date and so the systems are no longer
available, or because systems available now don't show up on the list?


Sun was slow to update the list and it is not clear if Oracle updates 
the list at all.



great. After reading the horror stories on the list I don't want to take a
chance and buy the wrong machine and then have ZFS fail or Oracle tell me
they don't support the machine.


I can't answer for Oracle.  There may be a chicken-and-egg problem 
since Oracle might not want to answer speculative questions but might 
be more concrete if you have a system in hand.


Bob
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-23 Thread Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao) Ph.D
well
check  this link

https://shop.oracle.com/pls/ostore/product?p1=SunFireX4270M2server&p2=&p3=&p4=&sc=ocom_x86_SunFireX4270M2server&tz=-4:00

you may not like the price



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On Mar 23, 2012, at 17:16, The Honorable Senator and Mrs. John 
Blutarsky wrote:

> On Fri Mar 23 at 10:06:12 2012 laot...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> well
>> use component of x4170m2 as example you will be ok
>> intel cpu
>> lsi sas controller non raid
>> sas 72rpm hdd
>> my 2c
> 
> That sounds too vague to be useful unless I could afford an X4170M2. I
> can't build a custom box and I don't have the resources to go over the parts
> list and order something with the same components. Thanks though.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-23 Thread The Honorable Senator and Mrs . John Blutarsky
On Fri Mar 23 at 10:06:12 2012 laot...@gmail.com wrote:

> well
> use component of x4170m2 as example you will be ok
> intel cpu
> lsi sas controller non raid
> sas 72rpm hdd
> my 2c

That sounds too vague to be useful unless I could afford an X4170M2. I
can't build a custom box and I don't have the resources to go over the parts
list and order something with the same components. Thanks though.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Good tower server for around 1,250 USD?

2012-03-23 Thread The Honorable Senator and Mrs . John Blutarsky
Bob Friesenhahn  wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, The Honorable Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky wrote:
> >
> > This will be a do-everything machine. I will use it for development, hosting
> > various apps in zones (web, file server, mail server etc.) and running other
> > systems (like a Solaris 11 test system) in VirtualBox. Ultimately I would
> > like to put it under Solaris support so I am looking for something
> > officially approved. The problem is there are so many systems on the HCL I
> > don't know where to begin. One of the Supermicro super workstations looks
> 
> Almost all of the systems listed on the HCL are defunct and no longer 
> purchasable except for on the used market.

In my third world country some of these are still found new in box and sold
at "just released" prices. I'm surprised to hear about the state of the HCL,
but that is good info to be aware of. Why aren't they maintaining it? If you
can find a system can you at least depend on their statement that they
support it? Or is even that unknown? I would think if somebody buys a 5 year
old new server based on them showing Premier support available and then they
refuse to support it there would be the possibility of interesting legal
action.

> Obtaining an "approved" system seems very difficult.

Because of the list being out of date and so the systems are no longer
available, or because systems available now don't show up on the list?

> In spite of this, Solaris runs very well on many non-approved modern
> systems.

Yes, I have entitlements from Sun so I am running an Update 8 box on a
custom build with no problems. It wasn't built for Solaris or ZFS but works
great. After reading the horror stories on the list I don't want to take a
chance and buy the wrong machine and then have ZFS fail or Oracle tell me
they don't support the machine.

Thanks for your post.
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