Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
That looks sweet, thanks! _ From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Nordli Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:51 PM To: ZFS Discussions Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Geoff Nordli
Dan, If you are going to do the all in one with vbox, you probably want to look at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vboxsvc/ It manages the starting/stopping of vbox vms via smf. Kudos to Jim Klimov for creating and maintaining it. Geoff On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wro

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
I have to admit Ned's (what do I call you?)idea is interesting. I may give it a try... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
wait my brain caught up with my fingers :) the guest is running on the same host, so there is no virtual switch in this setup. i'm still going to try the vmxnet3 and see what difference it makes... ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 11/8/2012 1:41 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: Dan Swartzendruber [mailto:dswa...@druber.com] Now you have me totally confused. How does your setup get data from the guest to the OI box? If thru a wire, if it's gig-e, it's going to be 1/3-1/2 the sp

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: Dan Swartzendruber [mailto:dswa...@druber.com] > > Now you have me totally confused. How does your setup get data from the > guest to the OI box? If thru a wire, if it's gig-e, it's going to be > 1/3-1/2 the speed of the other way. If you're saying you use 10gig or > some-such, we're ta

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 11/8/2012 12:35 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov the VM running "a ZFS OS" enjoys PCI-pass-through, so it gets dedicated hardware access to the HB

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 11/8/2012 12:35 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov the VM running "a ZFS OS" enjoys PCI-pass-through, so it gets dedicated hardware access to the HB

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Karl Wagner > > I am just wondering why you export the ZFS system through NFS? > I have had much better results (albeit spending more time setting up) using > iSCSI. I found that performance wa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov > > the VM running "a ZFS OS" enjoys PCI-pass-through, so it gets dedicated > hardware access to the HBA(s) and harddisks at raw speeds, with no > extra layers of lags in between.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
-Original Message- From: Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) [mailto:opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:44 PM To: Dan Swartzendruber; Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) Cc: Tiernan OToole;

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Karl Wagner
On 2012-11-08 4:43, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: > When I said performance was abysmal, I meant, if you dig right down and pressure the system for throughput to disk, you've got a Linux or Windows VM isnide of ESX, which is writing to a virtual disk, which ES

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedicated server running ESXi with no RAID card, ZFS for storage?

2012-11-08 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2012-11-08 05:43, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: you've got a Linux or Windows VM isnide of ESX, which is writing to a virtual disk, which ESX is then wrapping up inside NFS and TCP, talking on the virtual LAN to the ZFS server, which unwraps the TCP and NFS,