Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Darren J Moffat writes: > >>> You can avoid this by swapping to a zvol, though at the moment this > >>> requires a fix for CR 6405330. Unfortunately, since one cannot yet dump > >>> to > >>> a zvol, one needs a dedicated dump device in this case ;-( > >> Dedicated dump devices are *always* best,

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-02 Thread Darren J Moffat
Rainer Orth wrote: Gavin Maltby writes: You can avoid this by swapping to a zvol, though at the moment this requires a fix for CR 6405330. Unfortunately, since one cannot yet dump to a zvol, one needs a dedicated dump device in this case ;-( Dedicated dump devices are *always* best, so this i

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Gavin Maltby writes: > > You can avoid this by swapping to a zvol, though at the moment this > > requires a fix for CR 6405330. Unfortunately, since one cannot yet dump to > > a zvol, one needs a dedicated dump device in this case ;-( > > Dedicated dump devices are *always* best, so this is no l

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-02 Thread Gavin Maltby
On 06/02/06 10:09, Rainer Orth wrote: Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So it can look like: [...] c0t2d0s1c0t2d0s1 SVM mirror, SWAP SWAP/s1 size = sizeof(/ + /var + /opt) You can avoid this by swappi

Re: Re[4]: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So it can look like: [...] >c0t2d0s1c0t2d0s1 SVM mirror, SWAP SWAP/s1 size = >sizeof(/ + /var + > /opt) You can avoid this by swapping to a zvol, though at the moment t

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-02 Thread Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering
You propose ((2-way mirrored) x RAID-Z (3+1)) . That gives you 3 data disks worth and you'd have to loose 2 disk in each mirror (4 total) to loose data. For random read load you describe, I could expect that the per device cache to work nicely; That is file blocks stored at some given

Re[4]: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello David, Friday, June 2, 2006, 4:03:45 AM, you wrote: DJO> - Original Message - DJO> From: Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DJO> Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 1:17 pm DJO> Subject: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java >>

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread David J. Orman
- Original Message - From: Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 1:17 pm Subject: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java > Hello David, > > The system itself won't take too much space. > You can create o

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello David, Friday, June 2, 2006, 12:52:05 AM, you wrote: DJO> - Original Message - DJO> From: Matthew Ahrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DJO> Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 12:30 pm DJO> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread David J. Orman
- Original Message - From: Matthew Ahrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, June 1, 2006 12:30 pm Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java > Why would you use NFS? These zones are on the same machine as the > storage, right? You can s

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:35:41AM -1000, David J. Orman wrote: > 3 - App server would be running in one zone, with a (NFS) mounted ZFS > filesystem as storage. > > 4 - DB server (PgSQL) would be running in another zone, with a (NFS) > mounted ZFS filesystem as storage. Why would you use NFS? Th

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello David, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 11:35:41 PM, you wrote: DJO> Just as a hypothetical (not looking for exact science here DJO> folks..), how would ZFS fare (in your educated opinion) in this sitation: DJO> 1 - Machine with 8 10k rpm SATA drives. High performance machine DJO> of sorts (ie dual

[zfs-discuss] question about ZFS performance for webserving/java

2006-06-01 Thread David J. Orman
Just as a hypothetical (not looking for exact science here folks..), how would ZFS fare (in your educated opinion) in this sitation: 1 - Machine with 8 10k rpm SATA drives. High performance machine of sorts (ie dual proc, etc..let's weed out cpu/memory/bus bandwidth as much as possible from the