Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-28 Thread Sanjeev
Albert,

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:55:21AM -0800, Albert Frenz wrote:
 hi there,
 
 maybe this is a stupid question, yet i haven't found an answer anywhere ;)
 let say i got 3x 1,5tb hdds, can i create equal partitions out of each and 
 make a raid5 out of it? sure the safety would drop, but that is not that 
 important to me. with roughly 500gb partitions and the raid5 forumla of 
 n-1*smallest drive i should be able to get 4tb storage instead of 3tb when 
 using 3x 1,5tb in a normal raid5. 
 

Yes, it is possible to create partitions and configure it the way you mentioned.
However, along with the drop in the safety, the performance will also drop
because of potential seek delays.

Thanks and regards,
Sanjeev
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Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-28 Thread Lutz Schumann
Also write performance may drop because of write dache disable: 
http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storage_Pools

Just a hint, have not tested this. 

Robert
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[zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-27 Thread Albert Frenz
hi there,

maybe this is a stupid question, yet i haven't found an answer anywhere ;)
let say i got 3x 1,5tb hdds, can i create equal partitions out of each and make 
a raid5 out of it? sure the safety would drop, but that is not that important 
to me. with roughly 500gb partitions and the raid5 forumla of n-1*smallest 
drive i should be able to get 4tb storage instead of 3tb when using 3x 1,5tb in 
a normal raid5. 

thanks for you answers

greetings
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Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-27 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Albert Frenz y...@zockbar.de wrote:

 hi there,

 maybe this is a stupid question, yet i haven't found an answer anywhere ;)
 let say i got 3x 1,5tb hdds, can i create equal partitions out of each and
 make a raid5 out of it? sure the safety would drop, but that is not that
 important to me. with roughly 500gb partitions and the raid5 forumla of
 n-1*smallest drive i should be able to get 4tb storage instead of 3tb when
 using 3x 1,5tb in a normal raid5.

 thanks for you answers

 greetings
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3 drives is enough to make a raidz already
but you can use slices...yes, i have a friend who did that.

he had 2 1.5tb drives 2 1tb drives and a 2 tb drive
so he made 2 raidz's
one with 5 1tb slices
1 with 3 500gb slices




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Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-27 Thread Albert Frenz
ok nice to know :) thank you very much for your quick answer
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Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz using partitions

2010-01-27 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:55:21AM -0800, Albert Frenz wrote:
 hi there,
 
 maybe this is a stupid question, yet i haven't found an answer anywhere ;)
 let say i got 3x 1,5tb hdds, can i create equal partitions out of each and 
 make a raid5 out of it? sure the safety would drop, but that is not that 
 important to me. with roughly 500gb partitions and the raid5 forumla of 
 n-1*smallest drive i should be able to get 4tb storage instead of 3tb when 
 using 3x 1,5tb in a normal raid5. 
 

The only way you can use more than 3TB is if your RAID5 is not
protecting data on different disks.  By saying 500gb partitions, it
sounds like you want to create a 9 column raid on 3 disks.  

The safety wouild definitely drop.  It would drop so much that it's not
really buying you anything.  The failure of any drive would mean loss of
the data.  So if that's already true, why not just put all the disks in
a pool and not mess with a raid?  You'd get 4.5TB.

Partitioning it into pieces and trying to put them all into a single
RAID set just makes the setup more complex, probably slower, and almost
no extra protection.

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